Zoomer brainrot as a substitute for having a cultural identity

[SwanSwanson]

pol-tier conservatism to neoleninism to gendershit

It seems as if no matter what, their politics will be interpreted in the most obnoxious way possible

 

[Linako 2.0]

• Many western zoomers are immigrants with no connection nor loyalty to their homeland.

Sounds about right, many zoomers tend to be second or even third generation expats and the closest thing they have to a cultural identity are superficial memes they'll post on social media, should they actually meet their ancestral culture, they'll lash at it with disgust while trying to create a more american friendly version of it.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

It’s because they have grown up in a time when there is no religion of any kind and in addition, they have filled that empty void resulting from a lack of religion with pop culture, and shitty ones at best, In addition, the fact they stay home means they are so board that they began to adapt absurd beliefs.
The vapid shitty consumerist culture has ruined the souls of Zoomers and dumbed them down such to a degree, that they adopted communism, a ideology such a abysmal failure that only dumb people adopt it,

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

One thing I notice about zoomers is that there are no subcultures. They do have cliques but its entirely hierarchical, there are no further cultural divisions. All zoomers are gamers, zoomer girls are not just preppy or goth or punk or whatever, they simply fluctuate their dressing style depending of what's currently trending on social media and thus will bring the most likes and attention, but there's no deeper meaning to any of that, you wont see a zoomer goth girl reading Poe like the millennial and genX goth girls did.

I've thought about this for a while, the death of smaller subcultures and sameness across the board. I have a theory that the virtualization of their lives where real life interaction has been subsumed by the internet means where the youngins would be exposed to different people and thus different subcultures would have to happen on the web, in the older internet it wouldn't have been that bad of a problem due to the fragmented nature of the web where each community was distinct. The consolidation of the web by big tech into a few super sites and apps has compounded this, hostile algorithms forcing all down the same path to force engagement or push a narrative has turned the prime social grounds for zoomers into a niggercattle plantation where they are all exposed to the same things.

However I'm hesitant to believe it's just the crimes of Zuckerberg and the big tech Indians alone, im worried the social conformity of zoomers is a sign of far deeper social problems that are running rampant in the younger generations. Were zoomers this bad pre pandemic?

 

[cybertoaster]

in the older internet it wouldn't have been that bad of a problem due to the fragmented nature of the web where each community was distinct.

Web 1.0 was a cambrian explosion of subcultures. Like maybe I'm not old enough but when was a little kid goths were just goths, they were all the same, same hair from the guy of the cure, same shirts and pins from tim burton movies, etc. Then the internet happened and you had tons of other goths showing up, cybergoths, punkgoths, goth lolita among some girls, etc. Same with basically every other subculture, even gamers suddenly you had these guys bringing crazy stuff from japan, others from all around the world making emulators, these guys hacking some korean handhelds to play pirated games, it wasn't just kids with a Genesis and the guy running Doom on PC anymore. And that's just a sliver of all the stuff going on at the time.

Most of that is gone now, only the shittiest cringiest subcultures that also exploded in that era like furries are still around...

Were zoomers this bad pre pandemic?

I don't see the difference, but the "alphas" will sure turn out fucked up, guaranteed.

im worried the social conformity of zoomers is a sign of far deeper social problems that are running rampant in the younger generations

Like what?

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

Like what?

That's what I was asking. Typing out my post I was thinking cultural sameness couldn't entirely be because of the niggercattlelized nature of the modern web, it just seemed too extreme to be the sole smoking gun. I was asking about pre pandemic zoomers because I still wonder how severely that mess had screwed up their psyche (ignoring the economic and societal ills that it brought the entire world).

 

[Scuffed Marisa]

One thing I notice about zoomers is that there are no subcultures. They do have cliques but its entirely hierarchical, there are no further cultural divisions. All zoomers are gamers, zoomer girls are not just preppy or goth or punk or whatever, they simply fluctuate their dressing style depending of what's currently trending on social media and thus will bring the most likes and attention, but there's no deeper meaning to any of that, you wont see a zoomer goth girl reading Poe like the millennial and genX goth girls did.

When it comes to ideology its even more of a meme, I seen zoomers shift from pol-tier conservatism to neoleninism to gendershit to wignat to neolib, all it takes is a few fun videos to convince them to shift which is why I'm not surprised nafo got funded, they do exactly this and have managed to attract more than a few zoomers with their bullshit (tho I could do better with that budget, but its probably all just a porkbarrel cash grab anyway).

The death of subcultures is a good thing anyone could see coming. No, I'm not a zoomer. This is my thesis:

I always found subcultures to be dumb and in modern parlance "cringe," and I've held this opinion since I was a teenager myself back in the 90s. The existence of subcultures in that sense has been a thing since the 1950s at the very least, and their extinction was inevitable because experience has showed us subcultures do nothing and affect nothing beyond superficial aesthetics and chances to make money. That's it. That's the secret. Zoomers don't have subcultures because it has been decidedly proven by life itself over a span of almost 70 years that they're a completely worthless waste of time and energy. What remains of OUR 1990s subcultures, be it hackers or metalheads or punks or whatever else? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. In other words, by merely adopting the outer aesthetics of subcultures zoomers have instinctually seen through the bullshit - they don't matter. The extinction of subcultures is a good thing.

Now watch as I somewhat contradict myself: zoomers do have subcultures but they're entirely virtual and do not have a "look." They just do their things online, which is essentially all that matters in the end. A cultural identity is a spiritual thing, a digital thing, consequently you are either in on the culture or you are not, so from an outsiders perspective "there are no subcultures." Now, consider the most politically active subcultures of America, hippies. Has anything they have done made any sense or change, or did they merely become boomers and accumulate wealth? You know the answer. Ergo, even at their absolute peak a subculture does fuck all, which leads me to the following - money. Zoomers understood that money really is everything, unlike say us millenials who spent a chunk of our youth being shilled the old lie that money doesn't matter or is somehow dirty. Zoomers understand that money is life itself, and that subcultures in the old sense are often merely other peoples money making schemes or become that almost instantly. This is also why the Internet isn't as creative as it once was. Why do something for free when others will profit off of it? It happened with everything from creepypasta to shitty memes. The moronic "Liminal spaces & backrooms" thing made a shitload of money to the guys who made a game about it, not the guy who posted the original creepypasta - for free.

There is however, a very lively field of subcultures. Those of pornography. Unbridled eros of #34, lolicon, shotacon, every cartoon/anime/vidya character fucked and defiled in every conceivable way, all THOSE subcultures are thriving and that's where zoomers are very creative. It's the most beautiful thing I ever witnessed. All the worthless trappings of religion, politics, morals and "decency" melted away into nothingness before the Truth, and The Truth is Fucking. You, and most people on the farms and in general, are a kind of spiritual boomer or pearl clutching spinster (a normalfag at heart) so you never interacted with or have an interest in such things. More than that, you are functionally unable to grasp that this interest is a possibility.

On a lighter note - vtubers. Vtubing is a subculture. A very lively, thriving subculture with a lot of people from every background and age deeply invested in their oshis. Are you a part of that subculture? Do you know it exists? Does it seem interesting to you? No? That's the point, you haven't kept up or found new expressions for yourself after our old subcultures went extinct, and that's not the fault of the zoomers. You just don't have an eye for culture in a general sense anymore, and most people don't.

tl;dr subcultures were always shit and it's wonderful we moved away from them into all being outwardly same but inwardly deeply different.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

*snip*

Your opinion was worthless but is especially so since you defended Vtubers as a subculture. The whole point of subcultures is to meet likeminded people IRL and not over the Internet.

 

[Scuffed Marisa]

Your opinion was worthless but is especially so since you defended Vtubers as a subculture. The whole point of subcultures is to meet likeminded people IRL and not over the Internet.

You mean cons and conventions? Yes, they have those. Unlike you who obviously wrote and signed the Subculture Rules & Guidebook that all of Humanity must adhere to I am humbly aware that modern subcultures are utterly decentralized and globalized, meaning that they have transcended the tyranny of place. It is geographically impossible for actual participants and followers of this or that modern subculture to meet in appreciable numbers because they are scattered across the entire planet. Ergo, Internet. I also find your contempt of vtubing to be an expression of spiritual boomerism and thus I'm sure you can't even appreciate the tectonic shift and impact it has done. It's currently the pinnacle of media and its natural avatgarde progression. It all loops back to how many of the people ranting about apparent zoomer blandness are just... well, out of the loop. You became inwardly too old and can't keep up.

Your mindset and opinion is archaic and your handwaving of my argument proves you have no counter and nothing to say to discredit it. The forum is an excellent place for discussions and a whole lot of other things, but I also appreciate it because it makes it possible for me to study the boomer in its natural habitat from time to time. I fully expect this thread to turn into a ritualistic boomer circlejerk despite me providing ample evidence to the contrary of the stated topic.

 

[Pedophobe]

Culture in the developed world (America and it's neo-colonies) has been commodified beyond redemption. It's a process that has been going on for a long time but the boomers were the last generation to be able to grasp at the notion of an "authentic" culture and the zoomers were doomed from birth to only experience "highly processed" culture. Kids these days don't even get half the references in an average episode of Rick and Morty, they have no chance in hell of relating to classical ideals or traditions.

My parents' and my generation went to town on deconstruction and innovation. It was a lot of fun pulling everything apart and putting it back together for a profit but the end result was a fully automated production line that converts ideas into consumables that quickly end up in the spiritual landfill like so many Atari E.T. cartridges. The machine is running at full speed and there's no way to switch it off without bankrupting the whole enterprise in the process.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

You mean cons and conventions? Yes, they have those. Unlike you who obviously wrote and signed the Subculture Rules & Guidebook that all of Humanity must adhere to I am humbly aware that modern subcultures are utterly decentralized and globalized, meaning that they have transcended the tyranny of place. It is geographically impossible for actual participants and followers of this or that modern subculture to meet in appreciable numbers because they are scattered across the entire planet. Ergo, Internet. I also find your contempt of vtubing to be an expression of spiritual boomerism and thus I'm sure you can't even appreciate the tectonic shift and impact it has done. It's currently the pinnacle of media and its natural avatgarde progression. It all loops back to how many of the people ranting about apparent zoomer blandness are just... well, out of the loop. You became inwardly too old and can't keep up.

Your mindset and opinion is archaic and your handwaving of my argument proves you have no counter and nothing to say to discredit it. The forum is an excellent place for discussions and a whole lot of other things, but I also appreciate it because it makes it possible for me to study the boomer in its natural habitat from time to time. I fully expect this thread to turn into a ritualistic boomer circlejerk despite me providing ample evidence to the contrary of the stated topic.

I can’t fathom why one would take the opinions of someone who decries subcultures of the 20th century—ones that helped usher in new genres of music, entertainment, and art—whilst thinking that modern pornography and vtubing as things that helps create something “beautiful”, seriously.

This is coming from someone who isn’t a Boomer and is closer to being a Zoomer. I am not going to deny that specialized pornography and vtubing are sub-cultures, because they technically are, but believing that these produce more creativity and less shallow consumerism than previous sub-cultures is a cringe take.

Also someone who rejects religion, morals and culture in favor of “fucking” is the exact kind of belief I would expect from a pretentious humanities academic who fellates the likes of Rousseau and Sartre. Post-modernism and nihilism are crimes against humanity and a reason so many younger people are unhappy and constantly looking for dopamine hits.

 

[biozeminadae1]

On the flipside - I find that people who do good work and/or enrich their friends, family or community struggle far less with their identity because they are defined by the real, tangible effects they can observe every day and they experience far fewer crisis for this reason.

This could just as well be the end effect of not having the time to even think about one's identity.

 

[Scuffed Marisa]

I can’t fathom why one would take the opinions of someone who decries subcultures of the 20th century—ones that helped usher in new genres of music, entertainment, and art—whilst thinking that modern pornography and vtubing as things that helps create something “beautiful”, seriously.

This is coming from someone who isn’t a Boomer and is closer to being a Zoomer. I am not going to deny that specialized pornography and vtubing are sub-cultures, because they technically are, but believing that these produce more creativity and less shallow consumerism than previous sub-cultures is a cringe take.

Also someone who rejects religion, morals and culture in favor of “fucking” is the exact kind of belief I would expect from a pretentious humanities academic who fellates the likes of Rousseau and Sartre. Post-modernism and nihilism are crimes against humanity and a reason so many younger people are unhappy and constantly looking for dopamine hits.

The "so many" are irrelevant, because the modern world is the same as the truly old, the quintessentially "trad" world of antiquity. It differentiates between the failures and the successful to the utmost degree. Why are "so many" unhappy? Because they cling to the dead ideas of the 20th century and never tried to reevaluate themselves and their principles, or to even evaluate the inherited ideas and traditions that they were brought up with. The facts are simple - those ideas did not survive contact with the new culture, new ideas, and new mindsets. They are defeated, abolished, irrelevant, to be mercy killed. Why didn't religion, morals or old culture survive? Because they were founded on lies. What you call nihilism is the purest life, the purest acceptance of life and living in accordance to its rules. There is nothing empty about it, quite the opposite. It is Meaning itself and we see its workings daily. Life is blossoming before our eyes in the purest sense. These are simply times of beginning and times of a great The End to many old lies. Just like how communism can only be enforced at gunpoint and didn't survive contact with the truth of human desire for possessions and money so too will religion, morals or whatever other nonsense die out when left to its own devices.

Think of it as evolution. Either adapt or die. The world of yesteryear isn't coming back.

Culture in the developed world (America and it's neo-colonies) has been commodified beyond redemption. It's a process that has been going on for a long time but the boomers were the last generation to be able to grasp at the notion of an "authentic" culture and the zoomers were doomed from birth to only experience "highly processed" culture. Kids these days don't even get half the references in an average episode of Rick and Morty, they have no chance in hell of relating to classical ideals or traditions.

My parents' and my generation went to town on deconstruction and innovation. It was a lot of fun pulling everything apart and putting it back together for a profit but the end result was a fully automated production line that converts ideas into consumables that quickly end up in the spiritual landfill like so many Atari E.T. cartridges. The machine is running at full speed and there's no way to switch it off without bankrupting the whole enterprise in the process.

The whole of American culture has been manufactured and commodified from the very start. You even had a war about it, a Civil War, which was about destroying the American version of landed gentry and destroying organic connection to Europe. Jazz for instance was also manufactured and pushed on Americans to make the negro more palatable to them, and the whole apparatus of Hollywood and so on and on served similar purposes. There is no authentic American culture post-Civil War just like how there's no America without the piece of paper you call the Constitution. Your entire nation is manufactured in the same way the Soviet union was.

 

[cybertoaster]

You know it actually seemed that your rants where going somewhere but then you drop this turd:

There is however, a very lively field of subcultures. Those of pornography.

I mean just from your avatar I should've guessed, but apparently I had the hope that the touhou guy would not be a coomer for once.

The irony of your comment is that porn is peak cultural commodification now, its never been as monetized as it is now, companies like mindgeek which owns pornhub work the same way any boring media conglomerate does. Culture? they do whatever brings the clicks now, and if that's "black stepsister and latina cousin stuck in washing machine with skibidi music" then they'll do that. Same with your beloved hentai, its always some meme going around then people make porn out of it be it bowsette, the "clussy" clown girl, etc. Or flavor of the month anime girl, be it the shorty big titty chick with her boobs tied, the shorty big titty chick who is a demon ninja or something, the shorty big titty chick with short hair who looks preteen but goes to college (right...) or the very shorty with huge big titty chick that is a 9000yo dragon.

You're so coombrained you don't realize you're fapping to slop.

It's the most beautiful thing I ever witnessed.

Bruh moment.

More than that, you are functionally unable to grasp that this interest is a possibility.

Nah I'm very aware of it, porn addiction is huge right now.

Vtubing is a subculture. A very lively, thriving subculture

You know while porn began with a mix of old coomers and z-list movie producers and hentai was mostly anime nerds making porn comics of known characters then xeroxing and selling them the vtubers were 100% corporate slop from the very beginning, the underlying technology was made by a corpo for exactly this purpose. Hololive is a corpo that does whatever is trendy, basically all major vtubers are manufactured, the one lonely fat tranny pretending to be an uwu catgirl with big bouncy tits doesn't counts and even then he's just following the same trends the bigger vtubers do because he's also desperate for monetization.

Under 90's culture vtubers would be one of the biggest sellouts around. And I'm not even getting into the very fuckedup ethics of the parasocial interactions they create to squeeze their followers for more money.

zoomers do have subcultures but they're entirely virtual and do not have a "look." They just do their things online

Now, consider the most politically active subcultures of America, hippies. Has anything they have done made any sense or change, or did they merely become boomers and accumulate wealth?

The march thru the institutions? hello? that's what caused a massive shift in western culture with aftershocks we're still witnessing to this day.

Zoomers understood that money really is everything

For a gen that cares so much about money they sure are shit at managing money, zoomers fall for scams as much if not more than boomers do and the latter are going senile, what's the zoomers' excuse? practically all shitcoin scam victims I seen are zoomers. And that's without counting the borderline retarded consumerism of paying for videogame skins, virtual game money or the cancer that is fast fashion. I seen some retarded consumerism in my generation like idiots who paid for ringtones and the like, but zoomers are basically speedrunning into bankruptcy.

The moronic "Liminal spaces & backrooms" thing made a shitload of money to the guys who made a game about it, not the guy who posted the original creepypasta - for free.

Oh I know, its nothing new really, I call it the "caturday effect", remember that? it was stolen and rebranded as 'can I haz cheezburger'. The 4channer who came up with that almost 20 years ago is probably still broke and still posting on 4chan, meanwhile the azn guy who stole it is still making money off that shit.

 

[raspberry mocha]

Subcultures blowing up over infighting and drama was just inevitable, especially when gathering spaces became completely online and virtual. There, everyone can see past the walls of subculture and is free to make judgment calls -- see the many lolcow threads on this forum, even the mass debates shitstorms among other users. Subcultures probably still exist in some form. I would say KF itself has its own subculture. But unless someone has deep insider knowledge and is willing to betray the inner workings of a subculture to normies, you won't hear about them, at least not in an objective sense.

 

[Scuffed Marisa]

The irony of your comment is that porn is peak cultural commodification now, its never been as monetized as it is now, companies like mindgeek which owns pornhub work the same way any boring media conglomerate does. Culture? they do whatever brings the clicks now, and if that's "black stepsister and latina cousin stuck in washing machine with skibidi music" then they'll do that. Same with your beloved hentai, its always some meme going around then people make porn out of it be it bowsette, the "clussy" clown girl, etc. Or flavor of the month anime girl, be it the shorty big titty chick with her boobs tied, the shorty big titty chick who is a demon ninja or something, the shorty big titty chick with short hair who looks preteen but goes to college (right...) or the very shorty with huge big titty chick that is a 9000yo dragon.

That's all culture ever was. What are paleolithic Venus figurines if not a meme or flavor of the month? What is baroque? What is the Renaissance? What is realism? All of them, every cultural movement, every written word, every song and so on and on is "flavor of the month" at a time where culture moved at a slower pace for a variety of factors. The point stands. Every piece of high art, be it the Sistine Chapel or the intricate gold engravings of the Avars or the classical sculptures of Apollo - all of them without exception came about through their equivalent of "boring media coglomerate" of aristocracy, the church, the best warchief and so forth.

You know while porn began with a mix of old coomers and z-list movie producers and hentai was mostly anime nerds making porn comics of known characters then xeroxing and selling them the vtubers were 100% corporate slop from the very beginning, the underlying technology was made by a corpo for exactly this purpose. Hololive is a corpo that does whatever is trendy, basically all major vtubers are manufactured, the one lonely fat tranny pretending to be an uwu catgirl with big bouncy tits doesn't counts and even then he's just following the same trends the bigger vtubers do because he's also desperate for monetization.

Under 90's culture vtubers would be one of the biggest sellouts around. And I'm not even getting into the very fuckedup ethics of the parasocial interactions they create to squeeze their followers for more money.

The "fucked up ethics" of "parasocial interactions" you describe are entirely voluntary, unlike say imposed demands to die for your country, faith, king, god and so on. In other words your appeal to ethics does not stand, since Humanity has always been forced to show utter slavish devotion to things that it had no vested interest in, and which actively destroyed it. Vtubing is far cleaner than going to church and worshiping a deity of your parents, or going to fight wars on behalf of "democracy" or whichever other system. And don't speak of 90s culture and sellouts. Everyone is a sellout and those who aren't are those that don't matter, since they are not remembered. Very simple. On top of all this I openly say that vtubing is a two way road and that without the personality of a vtuber it would mean nothing. It's almost intimate, and definitely friendly. Every vtuber has fans, and those fans are a subculture within a larger subculture.

The march thru the institutions? hello? that's what caused a massive shift in western culture with aftershocks we're still witnessing to this day.

In theory. In practice they all got cushy desk jobs and are now complaining about everything. And America is not "western culture." Honestly it suddenly occurs to me that your seething is probably due to the loss of preeminence of American culture. Nobody cares much about it anymore, it peaked in the 90s and died sometime in the 2010s. It's all Asian now. Adapt or die.

For a gen that cares so much about money they sure are shit at managing money, zoomers fall for scams as much if not more than boomers do and the latter are going senile, what's the zoomers' excuse? practically all shitcoin scam victims I seen are zoomers. And that's without counting the borderline retarded consumerism of paying for videogame skins, virtual game money or the cancer that is fast fashion. I seen some retarded consumerism in my generation like idiots who paid for ringtones and the like, but zoomers are basically speedrunning into bankruptcy.

Well yes, obviously. Most people don't make it and that's a good thing. Every society needs a poor underclass as a reservoir of labor, and we're recreating it in the West. In the long run it makes immigration unnecessary since the lower classes generally breed in large numbers. The manufactured financial crises has the goal of curbing immigration in the long run, you just never understood the mechanism. Schooling is worthless for the exact same reason. But that's a tale for another time. I can in the end only repeat that your entire worldview is obsolete and that you just can't get it just like your parents didn't get you, or your grandparents. You got filtered by time and generational changes and that's okay, it's kinda inevitable.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

@Scuffed Marisa Most subscultures now proliferate by megacorporations looking to pocket as much money from every group of people imaginable. Selling out is nothing new, but the platforms with these sub-cultures proliferate are 100% fostered by companies with the intent on making money. I don’t see how making tranny loli art or speedrunning Fortnite, both of which utilize the internet, which in turn is corporate-owned, make the modern subcultures “better”. You used to at least have to get out and meet people in order for that culture to thrive. Now you have to login to meet those people, unless you are lucky enough to live in a place where they still exist “in the wild” and aren’t tainted with culture war crap. There’s a reason sub-cultures now are so intermingled, commodified, and homogenized.

Also ngl I really have no idea why I’m debating this with someone with the deconstructionist mindset of “culture bad, consoom and coom good”. No wonder your ilk embrace nihilism. The rejection of morality and cultural identity in favor of pornography and soulless entertainment is fucking dystopian.

 

[Skitarii]

There is however, a very lively field of subcultures. Those of pornography. Unbridled eros of #34, lolicon, shotacon, every cartoon/anime/vidya character fucked and defiled in every conceivable way, all THOSE subcultures are thriving and that's where zoomers are very creative. It's the most beautiful thing I ever witnessed. All the worthless trappings of religion, politics, morals and "decency" melted away into nothingness before the Truth, and The Truth is Fucking. You, and most people on the farms and in general, are a kind of spiritual boomer or pearl clutching spinster (a normalfag at heart) so you never interacted with or have an interest in such things. More than that, you are functionally unable to grasp that this interest is a possibility.

Zoomer culture is centered around porn. They have subreddits for porn. They killed hundreds of thousands of third worlders to make porn. They listen to porn music. They let their hormones influence their voting patterns. They dress and act like gooners. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from porn. They post sassy screencrops from hentai. They watch porn in worship of their sex drive. Their biggest event of the year involves gooning. They use porn slang like "uwu" and "thot". They refer to their genitals by childish allusions to roosters and felines. They're thinking of gooning. Their social media sites are completely overrun with porn. They worship their ZOGbot internet sites disproportionately filled with porn and their administrative staff filled with gooners. Their men sit around masturbating to trannies while their women sit around taking pictures of their snatch for onlyfans. They worship pornstars like Johnny Sins and Mia Khaliffa and the late Belle Delphine while attacking the boomers who actually built the internet protocols on which these grifters showcase their filth. Their movies are filled with sex and their music charts are topped by sex-grifters. They worship harlots on instagram and twitter and celebrate when those harlots spread their taint for the entire internet to see because sex work is heckin' valid dood. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate human trafficking and how sexual exploitation results in the deaths of millions of children and how sex work is totally different from sex slavery but the evidence speaks for itself in that zoomers have always been and will be a generation of tranny-loving gooners.

 

[Dr Sprokeberg]

One thing I notice about zoomers is that there are no subcultures. They do have cliques but its entirely hierarchical, there are no further cultural divisions. All zoomers are gamers, zoomer girls are not just preppy or goth or punk or whatever, they simply fluctuate their dressing style depending of what's currently trending on social media and thus will bring the most likes and attention, but there's no deeper meaning to any of that, you wont see a zoomer goth girl reading Poe like the millennial and genX goth girls did.

When it comes to ideology its even more of a meme, I seen zoomers shift from pol-tier conservatism to neoleninism to gendershit to wignat to neolib, all it takes is a few fun videos to convince them to shift which is why I'm not surprised nafo got funded, they do exactly this and have managed to attract more than a few zoomers with their bullshit (tho I could do better with that budget, but its probably all just a porkbarrel cash grab anyway).

I think there's still subcultures but maybe less mainstream ones. Gaming might be mainstream but there's still a pretty big difference between demographics of gamers, hardly a lot of overlap between someone who plays shooters like CoD and Halo, to someone who plays MOBAs, to someone who plays mainly JRPGs for example.

Or someone "into" Anime who watched 2-10 different series vs someone who's seen 100+ and perhaps is very keen on 1/2 series (i hate to use the term fandom but it's sort of the right description).

Agree though, if you just follow what the "algorithm" shows you then you'll have probably played a few video games, maybe own a PC or console, maybe have seen 1-10 anime series, and watched a few popular e-celebs. I don't use TikTok myself so i don't know what's being shilled on there.

The demise of religion and classical education in the west is concerning though, IMO. We need to protect them, or else we'll lose our cultural identity.

 

[SanctedElectromagnetism]

@Scuffed Marisa vtrooning is not "culture" or a "community". This is what people mean when they say zoomers only know to consoom product and base their personality on product. By all means consumerism was always a backbone to "communities". But what separates a group of touhou fans from 2005, and a bunch of zoomies who watch JJK and vtuber slop. Is that the latter with remain isolated in their orbit of mass-produced slop made purely to make money.

Say what you want about Andrew Tate and sigma male edits but alteast it's teaching *some* zoomers to got to the gym and study school. Instead of raising rampant consoom golems like with millenials.