Do you deem gratuitously killing insects immoral?

If a spider wanders into my domain I am forced to remove it, generally by squashing unless I can trap it in a cup or something. I let them be but I cant have them crawling on my desk or in living areas.
 
MIC Shill said:
If a bug is useful or otherwise harmless, I try to keep it alive. Flys, mosquitos and wasps get the fuckin gas chamber.
Bees are bros.
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This.

However, making a show out of enjoying the gas chamber is immoral and indicates general fuckupedness. Like, I boil ant nests because those fuckers eat my vegetables. I don't boil ant nests to imagine I'm a pooner shooting up an elementary school.
 
If it's an insect that is actively a hazard (it is poisonous or aggressive towards humans),
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it has no use (a bee creates honey, a spider eats smaller pests)

killing is ok. But for creatures like moths, etc, they should live.
 
Do we now live in an era where we can't even apply ourselves to killing bugs, unless our intent is morally good, that is to say, definitely not killing for pleasure, only practical killings permitted? Holy fucking shit.
 
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No because I don't care about bugs and this is a meaningless question. I believe you're implying that there will somehow be some mental consequence for me killing a bug. Is there supposed to be a moral purpose in the ether that binds my conscience?
I think that's dumb. Moral imperatives like this can't actually cause anything. They're just abstract objects.
 
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If it's not causing any problems, I try not to kill insects. If you're a pest that has invaded my home and gotten past my army of spiders and centipedes, die!
Grub said:
Fuck that shit, mosquitoes actively want to drink my blood.
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For some reason, mosquitoes want nothing to do with me. I almost never get bit by them. Still kill them because they suck. Literally.
 
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biozeminadae1 said:
Do we now live in an era where we can't even apply ourselves to killing bugs, unless our intent is morally good, that is to say, definitely not killing for pleasure, only practical killings permitted? Holy fucking shit.
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Why do you want to kill something for pleasure? I can't see any enjoyment from it, it's pointless destruction and really very weird.

I bet if you said to coworkers or people at a social event that you enjoyed killing insects for fun, they'd excuse themselves to get away from the weirdo and keep their distance in the future.
 
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Agamemnon Busmalis said:
Why do you want to kill something for pleasure? I can't see any enjoyment from it, it's pointless destruction and really very weird.
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In fact I didn't say that you should want to kill for pleasure, I commented on the fact that people now feel the need to moralise every single action they take, including swatting insignificant gnats. People derive enjoyment from many pointless things, so the destruction of insects in their spare time isn't a big deal. For reference, animals kill for pleasure, including some birds, the shrikes being the most well-known.

Insects in general lack features we can empathise with, so the thought behind the action of destroying them should be obvious. A person doesn't care about them and wants them wiped away for his own sense of benefit, which is not having to share a space with them.
Agamemnon Busmalis said:
I bet if you said to coworkers or people at a social event that you enjoyed killing insects for fun, they'd excuse themselves to get away from the weirdo and keep their distance in the future.
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Reddit-tier reply. This is not a serious thought. Do you think people make it their habit to just mention out of the blue every single thing they do in a conversation? If insects are not brought up why would I mention killing them at all, what the fuck? And how the heck would you know how they'd react? Stop imposing your worldview.
 
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Anyone who advocates for the deaths of spiders (most other insects but let's focus on spiders) is a sad fuck, I pray your house is filled with pests forever as you poison yourself trying to kill them. Assassin Bugs however...
 
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All demons must be exterminated.
 
Lol what is it with this younger generation and freaking out about killing fuckin' bugs like it's on the level of murkin' goddamn old yeller?

It's gotta be something with being told to empathize with things that give absolutely no fucks about you.
 
Morality is a artificial construct of the human mind, it does not exist in the natural world.
Its either them or me. I dont make the rules.
 
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The only bugs I've actively killed intentionally are parasitic or destructive shit like mosquitos trying to suck my blood and fuckyou massive winged carpenter ants crawling through my fucking door trying to burrow into the walls. carpet beetles too technically but I can't really control those as well as the first two.
If I had roaches I'd kill those too. Killed silverfish that got into the house a few times because I don't want my paper and books and shit getting little stains and bite marks all over.
Crickets? i'm fine with em. Stink/shield bugs? I try picking them up and escorting them out. Spiders and house centipedes? Godspeed you tiny retarded apex predators. I have a stain on my bedroom wall from 10 years ago when I killed a house centipede not realizing what it was and I refuse to clean the tiny spot with a centipede blood stain because I still feel bad about it.

When I was a kid there were ants infesting the sandbox I'd play in and I'd make shitty ant cities for them and commune with the ants. the ants no longer seem to favor me and bite and sting the shit out of me and try to steal my food so they've made the choice of death.
 
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I kill millions of bugs every year just using my windshield. Compared to that, the wasp I occasionally have to freeze with keyboard duster liquid CO2 in my office is statistically insignificant.

I do leave jumping spiders alone, if I can.
 
I generally leave them alone outdoors, that's their space as much as mine. Unless they're eating my vegetables or set up shop in a part of the garden I'm trying to clean up, just so I don't get covered in bug bites.
Indoors I'll get a glass and release them outside unless they're going after my pantry or being a pain in the ass to catch, then they get swatted/gassed. Except spiders, especially towards the end of winter when I'm sick and tired of cleaning up cobwebs. I might like spring more for them finally fucking off outdoors again than I do for the return of nice weather.
 
Killing some useful insect like a bee is objectively damaging to the environment.

If it's a useless annoyance like a mosquito or wasp, killing one is generally fine. But no matter how nasty the insect is that you kill, it's bad karma if the only reason you do it is "for fun". Mental states can make the difference between a good and bad deed even if the action is the same.

With that said, it's admittedly fun to trap a wasp under a glass and put some liquor in there.
 
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Depends.

If it's inside my house, and it's a nasty one-no.

If it's outside my house, and just minding its own business-yes.

I will say that no matter what the circumstances are, torturing one, especially to death, is immoral.
 
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Same as others have said, as long as they don't annoy me they're fine. One exception is if a bee refuses to get off a flower as I mow the lawn, he's going under. I don't have all day.
 
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