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Its been known to happen.Twitter troon claims doc called cops over a negative review.
Google Delists Sites Providing DIY Hormone Therapy at Behest of UK Government
MAY 8, 2024 AT 9:50 AM
Google has removed two websites providing “DIY” hormone replacement therapy used in gender-affirming care from search results at the request of the UK government, according to legal letters viewed by 404 Media.
Both sites were temporarily offline after their domain registrar received letters from the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) asking them to suspend their domain names. The sites did not appear in Google search results in the UK in our tests, but Google provides a link to the Lumen database, which keeps a record of takedown notices and other legal removal requests. The Lumen database showed that Google removed the two sites from search results at the request of the UK government. The sites still appear in search results in the United States.
These sites will ship people drugs used in gender affirming care discreetly, and are often used by people who can’t get that care from their healthcare providers, or don’t want to suffer through diagnostic and legislative hurdles to get that care through their healthcare provider.
The people operating one of these sites asked us not to name the sites because they worry doing so would lead to more enforcement against them, which would limit access to people who rely on the service they provide.
“Google has not contacted us and is not obligated to contact us, we believe,” an operator of one of these sites, who asked to remain anonymous, told me. “However, Google's decision to align itself with a government determined to strip its citizens of access to safe and timely healthcare is entirely in line with the deprecation of their former motto [‘don’t be evil’], and unsurprising on account of it.”
“We are guided by local law when it comes to removing content from Search,” a Google spokesperson told me in an email. “Under our policies, we remove pharmaceutical websites from our results when national pharmaceutical regulators determine that they are unlawful and send us a notice. When possible, we display a notification that results have been removed and report these removals to Lumen Database to provide transparency."
The Lumen database also provided the letters the MHRA sent the domain registrars, Namecheap and NiceNIC, and presumably Google, requesting they deny these sites service.
“The listed website has been identified as facilitating the commission of criminal offences relating to one or more of the applicable regulations of the Human Medicines Regulations 2012, which consolidate the law of the United Kingdom concerning medicinal products for human use,” the letter says, and then lists four regulations related to selling of medicinal products that the MHRA says the sites are violating.
“The domain is offering the sale and supply of unauthorised medicines to persons in the UK,” the letter says. “The domain is not a registered pharmacy in the UK or, it appears, anywhere else in the world. The targeting of UK individuals in this way is illegal and presents a real risk of harm to public health in the UK.” (That last line is bolded in the letter).
The MHRA also asks the domain registrars to change the domain name to “Transfer Prohibited,” preventing it from being transferred to other registrars “thus preventing the continued facilitation of a crime,” according to the letter.
The enforcement comes after last month’s release of the “Cass Review,” a major study commissioned by the UK’s National Health Services about gender identity care for young people. The Cass Review has become a major flashpoint in the UK and worldwide as it is being used by politicians to argue for less access to gender confirming care. 404 Media previously reported that the review uses AI-generated images of children.
The operator of the site that’s been removed from Google search results told me that “The UK appears to have engaged and is still engaging in an attempt to soft-ban HRT for trans people, using the Cass Review as justification for doing so (despite the unaddressed laundry list of concerns that were raised before, during, and after the process) [...] This attempt to ban trans people has gone and will likely continue to go as well as outlawing abortion before Roe v. Wade went into effect in the US – notably in reference to coat hanger abortions.”
NiceNIC and Namecheap did not respond to a request for comment. MHRA did not respond to a request for comment.
“In the short term, they will be left with no healthcare at all,” the site operator said when I asked what they think will happen to the people who relied on their service. “However, they will find alternatives, as they always have. Whether in pre-war Germany or at the many points within the UK's own sordid history regarding the LGBTQ community, trans people – and indeed the LGBTQ community as a whole – have never been anything but resilient. They will survive and hopefully be given the leeway to thrive; that begins with being able to access affordable and timely healthcare.”
“As publications from doctors working at GICs [gender identity clinics] indicate, approximately 16-31% of people accessing GIC care admit to either previously or currently taking DIY HRT [hormone replacement therapy] at time of first appointment,” said a spokesperson from the Trans Safety Network, a research organization analyzing harm against trans people in the UK. “It is likely the true number of trans people taking DIY HRT in the UK is higher as this only accounts for people willing to disclose this who are within the GIC system.”
The Trans Safety Network spokesperson added that the only way to stop people from resorting to the gray market for HRT is to ensure it is available to anyone who wants or needs it at a reasonable time and price.
“In practice this looks like the informed consent model that is common in much of the US, Spain and New Zealand, or being available OTC as it is in countries such as Brazil, Portugal and India,” the spokesperson said.
“There should be no need for sites like these,” the site’s operator said. “There's nothing I hate more than the fact that they are necessary, but people are tired of crying over the corpses of their friends. Ask any trans person, and you are likely to find that at least one of their close friends has died of suicide as a result of failures in healthcare or a lack of protection against discrimination [...] The availability of non-government sources of healthcare has saved lives, given the failures of the UK government, especially when people cannot afford to spend thousands of pounds to access healthcare privately and have no desire to die of old age or suicide in an NHS waiting room. Its availability is a moral good, and everything else is merely law demanding that you die.”
Great news.Google is removing troonshine sites from their search engine, at least in the UK [...]
lmao - this is the best retort they had404 Media previously reported that the review uses AI-generated images of children.
"POV, your new trans girlfriend [sic] has you laying [sic] down on the floor on your back. What do you do next?"What in the ever loving fuck is wrong with these people? Autism isn't enough to explain this shit.
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Because you are more curvy, slender jewelry is going to look best on you.
That's fair. Happy harvesting.She might be great at music but I reserve the right to (anonymously) make fun of anyone who talks about the true 'meaning' and importance of a magic 'sigil'. That thing even looks like someone tried to make a cheap chinese bootleg of a pentagram.
Im constantly amazed anyone still uses Google tbh.Google is removing troonshine sites from their search engine, at least in the UK:
It's extremely ironic how leftists preach "leopards ate my face party" nonsense, when in reality it all applies to them. Everything they root for eventually comes back to bite them in the ass. But what do you expect? It was all one big psyop in the first place. These people were never counter-culture rebels, only puppets meant to parrot ESG talking points for corporate gain.Im constantly amazed anyone still uses Google tbh.
It hasn't been fit for purpose as a search engine for years because its been tainted by leftist ideology.
Funny how they start to scream when the same precedent they set is now being used against them, huh?
Even if this wasn't Troons I'd have no sympathy. These freaks fucking crowed in triumph when that dead gay search engine did the same to us.
Sucks for them the pendulums swinging back I guess.
Swift kick to the groin, then escape while he tries to stuff his genitals back in. Destroy my shoes when I get home.What in the ever loving fuck is wrong with these people? Autism isn't enough to explain this shit.
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FTFY. He's also clearly Asian so I imagine that mom has a lot of super based opinions he can farm for Reddit karma.I guarantee you this dude has never bothered to pay attention to what his mom says unless he can use it to play the victim online.
Even aside from ideology it's shit in general. I remember getting a new laptop years ago and I was trying to find the website for the YouTube downloader I use to re-install it, but I could not find it on Google no matter what I put in. Tried it on Bing and it was the top result, so it was clearly being buried by Google.Im constantly amazed anyone still uses Google tbh.
It hasn't been fit for purpose as a search engine for years because its been tainted by leftist ideology.
Exactly. A "search engine" should do just that, search and find the things I, the customer/user want to see and list them in whatever priority I have set.FTFY. He's also clearly Asian so I imagine that mom has a lot of super based opinions he can farm for Reddit karma.
Even aside from ideology it's shit in general. I remember getting a new laptop years ago and I was trying to find the website for the YouTube downloader I use to re-install it, but I could not find it on Google no matter what I put in. Tried it on Bing and it was the top result, so it was clearly being buried by Google.
Some might say 'well obviously they're going to delist things that harm their other business interests' but that only highlights the point that Google should never have been allowed to achieve this stranglehold over every facet of the internet. They should have been broken up and forced to sell off YouTube, or the search engine or Chrome and its associated Web Store years ago.
This kind of dogshit is endemic in social media now. It's almost impossible to view a stream of content in chronological order curated by you and only you. It's just another element of conditioning people to give up control.Exactly. A "search engine" should do just that, search and find the things I, the customer/user want to see and list them in whatever priority I have set.
Not just a list of curated results that someone decides is suitable for me to see, with a load of propaganda as the top results and "wrongthink" buried.
The MHRA have a direct tips line called "The Bureau".
They get allwhen receiving reports of prescription-only medicines being brewed from AliExpress imports then sold to children - and as another poster above pointed out, have the power to perform investigations & prosecutions.
Besides the obvious answer ("they want to groom children"), a lot of trans people don't trust their doctors not to "hondose" them. This is especially pertinent with "bridging prescriptions" - basically a trans patient telling their GP they're going to inject troonshine, so the GP prescribes some HRT as harm reduction while they wait to be seen by a gender clinic. It feeds into other areas - it's caught on now that progesterone will provide "big mommy milkers" but the NHS does not routinely prescribe it to trans patients and also doesn't offer breast augmentation because there's no evidence it reduces dysphoria and they don't routinely give cis women boob jobs just because they want big boobs.
Even aside from ideology it's shit in general. I remember getting a new laptop years ago and I was trying to find the website for the YouTube downloader I use to re-install it, but I could not find it on Google no matter what I put in. Tried it on Bing and it was the top result, so it was clearly being buried by Google.
Some might say 'well obviously they're going to delist things that harm their other business interests' but that only highlights the point that Google should never have been allowed to achieve this stranglehold over every facet of the internet. They should have been broken up and forced to sell off YouTube, or the search engine or Chrome and its associated Web Store years ago.
There's no clinical necessity for any of it (though I get your point). It is funny though that most troons are fixated on getting the hormone that is understood in popular culture as "woman juice", even though estradiol is just one of several types hormones all categorized as estrogens.They won't give progesterone to troons because there's no clinical necessity
I feel like we're fucked either way because Dems want to control the Internet for ideological reasons, and Republicans want to parcel it off to the highest bidder for profits, and like Null said on a recent MATI if America falls on the Internet issue then it's genuinely over for the rest of the world.Despite all their gnashing of teeth on net neutrality, no one is really talking about the idea that there does need to be some sort of trust-busting for these digital giants that basically function as utilities for the internet age. Not that Republicans are necessarily better on this, but it's a huge, obviously ideologically motivated, blind spot in the approach a lot of people who claim to be championing a free internet.
Thought-provoking post...
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But they were mean to him! They said he was like a girl and a few times he even got called a faggot! It hurt his heccin' feelings!First of all, you're not a girl now.
Second thing, they were implying you were a girl, they were just implying that you're gay, because were less than macho.
I'm really sorry that that happened to you, but whoopie-shit, that's patriarchy, hon. Tiny bit of school bullying and you troon out? They shoulda bullied you harder. You don't think that actual girls had it way worse, growing up?