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Sniperwoof said:
Correct, and that was fine for the majority of our history when for the most part courts were neutral or at least inclined towards a purely contextual reading of the constitution.

We are not that same country, courts are now compromised by neo Marxist activists who go "hmm If you can lose your rights for committing murder maybe people who commit hate speech should lose their rights too."

The old system is no longer sufficient, rights now need to be absolute or they will not exist at all.
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Not to mention the law covered -less- of everything in your life. We're at the point where the law is so grand, all encompassing, tangled and unclear that we all regularly commit crimes without even realizing it. Its still illegal to give a kid a Sharpie pen in many places.

When the law is as opaque as it is, there is no longer any room for interpretation, just absolutes for the layman to follow. Denying those is denying them the ability to even understand what rights they have.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Rights aren't absolute. They're conditional on following the law.

Right to property? Break a law, pay a fine.
Right to freedom? Commit a crime, do the time.
Right to life? You can lose it if you commit murder.
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Rights are absolute by definition. By the very concept of the term they cannot be taken away. Anything that can be taken away is not a right, its a privilege, no matter what wording might be involved
 
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WonderWino said:
Rights are absolute by definition. By the very concept of the term they cannot be taken away. Anything that can be taken away is not a right, its a privilege, no matter what wording might be involved
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The concept is that individuals can relinquish their rights to varying degrees as a result of their own actions, not that they can be taken away. If you murder a child and get executed for it, your right to life wasn't taken away, you gave it up yourself by murdering a child
 
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WonderWino said:
Rights are absolute by definition. By the very concept of the term they cannot be taken away. Anything that can be taken away is not a right, its a privilege, no matter what wording might be involved
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By your definition, then, there is no such thing as a "right," since all humans can be killed, and upon death, any supposed "right" you have dies with you. Thus the word "right" is an accident of vocabulary; like other meaningless terms like "phlogiston," it refers to something that does not and cannot exist.
 
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ForTheHoard said:
How do you guys get so pumped up for a conservative leaning Supreme Court then pretend their decisions don't matter because democrats will ignore it? Ease up on the black pills.
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I am disappointed that no DC Uniparty politician has the balls to be honest like their masters overseas.

And shread the constitution in the halls of Congress.

 
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Kuritan Deplorable said:
Its still illegal to give a kid a Sharpie pen in many places.
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You can't walk your lion on the city steps here(might only be on sundays), I always wondered just how many people had lions back in the 1800s to need such a crazy law. I guess all it takes is one asshole and a lion.

It wasn't that long ago you couldn't buy beer or liquor or wine for that matter on a Sunday except in some restaurants that paid for a very expensive Sunday license. Probably not even 10 years ago
 
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Mitt Doggy Dogg said:
You can't walk your lion on the city steps here(might only be on sundays), I always wondered just how many people had lions back in the 1800s to need such a crazy law. I guess all it takes is one asshole and a lion.

It wasn't that long ago you couldn't buy beer or liquor or wine for that matter on a Sunday except in some restaurants that paid for a very expensive Sunday license. Probably not even 10 years ago
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its illegal to be a notary in KY if you've ever fought a duel on mainstreet. its also illegal to have a ice cream cone in your back pocket.
 
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Mitt Doggy Dogg said:
You can't walk your lion on the city steps here(might only be on sundays), I always wondered just how many people had lions back in the 1800s to need such a crazy law. I guess all it takes is one asshole and a lion.

It wasn't that long ago you couldn't buy beer or liquor or wine for that matter on a Sunday except in some restaurants that paid for a very expensive Sunday license. Probably not even 10 years ago
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Blue Laws still exist in some places. Parts of Bergen County, NJ. Mostly places surrounded by malls and businesses that want one day a week to not be crammed with hellish bughive traffic.
 
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Abraham Lincoln said:
I am disappointed that no DC Uniparty politician has the balls to be honest like their masters overseas.

And shread the constitution in the halls of Congress.

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Yo where can I buy a cool little shredder like that? Do they sell it at the UN gift shop?
 
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Glowing In The Streets said:
What kind of monster would put an ice cream cone in their back pocket? its going to get crushed
An illegal monster for sure
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apparently horse thieves would stick a cone in their back pocket, untie the horse from the post and it would follow them down the street to a place where they could steal it all without them being seen physically taking the horse. it seems convoluted to me but apparently it happened at least once.

the punishment for Horse theft was death.
 
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Romulus augustulus said:
apparently horse thieves would stick a cone in their back pocket, untie the horse from the post and it would follow them down the street to a place where they could steal it all without them being seen physically taking the horse.
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This sounds like something you'd see in a Hanna-Barbera cartoon
 
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Romulus augustulus said:
its illegal to be a notary in KY if you've ever fought a duel on mainstreet. its also illegal to have a ice cream cone in your back pocket.
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lol it's also a bad idea to walk around with ice cream cones in your back pocket. I always wondered why we needed laws like these. There's some pretty fucked up ones, here you could/can beat your wife on the court house steps on Sunday with a rod no thicker then your thumb. Or it mighta been your pinky I cant remember all the details of it but I've heard laws about beating your wife like that are fairly common old laws
 
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