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Sargon's wife's son said:
Sorry I don't know where else to post it but a lot of the 90s fantasy after you reread it it's kinda trash except the gorka novels I will never stop finding those novels hilarious because people in the 90s just did not care about who they offended
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The Volga Rules came in 2018, and is the russian arc of the 1632 series.
 
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RX-78 said:
Admittedly that's historically how D&D books go, what with Quag Keep being based on Andre Norton's first session.
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If you read any D&D book you will recognise things that are straight outta play sessions, such as the PCs arguing about what course of action to take next, the party members going on a side quest where they pick up a magic item etc.
 
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Healthy Boy Brand said:
When I re-read them after about 12 years it felt like a barely novelized D&D campaign. Especially Dragons of Autumn Twilight.
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That is explicitly what the first trilogy was. It's not even a secret.

side note, I had pizza at the place they'd go after those sessions. Pretty good.
 
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Mikoyan said:
That is explicitly what the first trilogy was. It's not even a secret.

side note, I had pizza at the place they'd go after those sessions. Pretty good.
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Fair enough, I didn't know about the whole campaign or D&D angle when I first read it due to being from the former East Block in the 90s, it was just another fantasy book off my dad's shelf with a cool cover.
 
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Healthy Boy Brand said:
If you read any D&D book you will recognise things that are straight outta play sessions, such as the PCs arguing about what course of action to take next, the party members going on a side quest where they pick up a magic item etc.
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I once suggested to my D&D group that we decide on a course of action over the week and just e-mail each other what we wanna do and vote on it so we can get more into the sessions turned into an even bigger argument that's half the fun of playing D&D is arguing about fictional events that you're going to do
 
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Healthy Boy Brand said:
Fair enough, I didn't know about the whole campaign or D&D angle when I first read it due to being from the former East Block in the 90s, it was just another fantasy book off my dad's shelf with a cool cover.
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I wasn't trying to shame ya, it's cool.

And those covers were rad. I didn't like the anniversary re-dos though.
 
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Mikoyan said:
That is explicitly what the first trilogy was. It's not even a secret.

side note, I had pizza at the place they'd go after those sessions. Pretty good.
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I'm such Low-T faggot I legitimately teared up when Sturm Brightblade died. That, and I'm also a sucker for Templar clones for some reason. Years later I see it claimed that they hadn't planned on any of that, it was simply that the person playing the character was bored and didn't want to continue. So they did what they did.

I keep meaning to order the annotated version of the Dragonlance Chronicles via interlibrary loan to see if that is in fact what happened, though I guess maybe they won't admit it even if it is true. The annotated version has all kind of weird crap in the margins; as in the language used for spells and what not is pretty much unfiltered Indonesian. Which the one of the two who is a Mormon had to learn to do his mission, shit like that. Got out of the library once before but never finished it.

Some of the most memorable characters in Fantasy literature to my mind. With a forgettable plot, written in some of the most painful to read prose you'll likely ever encounter. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Elwood P. Dowd said:
I'm such Low-T faggot I legitimately teared up when Sturm Brightblade died. That, and I'm also a sucker for Templar clones for some reason. Years later I see it claimed that they hadn't planned on any of that, it was simply that the person playing the character was bored and didn't want to continue. So they did what they did.

I keep meaning to order the annotated version of the Dragonlance Chronicles via interlibrary loan to see if that is in fact what happened, though I guess maybe they won't admit it even if it is true. The annotated version has all kind of weird crap in the margins; as in the language used for spells and what not is pretty much unfiltered Indonesian. Which the one of the two who is a Mormon had to learn to do his mission, shit like that. Got out of the library once before but never finished it.

Some of the most memorable characters in Fantasy literature to my mind. With a forgettable plot, written in some of the most painful to read prose you'll likely ever encounter. 🤷‍♂️
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Shit, I forgot the annotated version existed. I'm going to have to get that and have a look.

I wouldn't be surprised, myself. That kind of thing happened, though it's hard to imagine being a game with a plot that good and going 'meh w/e'.

And me too. That and oddly the later fortress battle where they used the FUCK out of the Dragonlances. Also, fun fact? The something Awful goons I know hate the absolute living FUCK out of Dragonlance. They'd have this deep down visceral reaction whenever it came up. I couldn't even get a coherent reason why out of them other than 'Kender suck'. God forbid their fantasy world have something in it that's not pitch-black gritty darkness.

On another topic, Penguicon's going on vaguely near me, someone reminded me. I looked up this year and holy fuck is it gigapozzed. First, the 'open source' part of it seems more vestigial than anything else, so meh. Second, hyper woke general schedule including an aphasia meetup. Third, super duper hard mask policy in twenty fucking twenty fucking four. Fourth.... I wanna know what's behind their 'drag GoH' cancelling on them for 'safety' reasons.
 
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Mikoyan said:
Also, fun fact? The something Awful goons I know hate the absolute living FUCK out of Dragonlance. They'd have this deep down visceral reaction whenever it came up. I couldn't even get a coherent reason why out of them other than 'Kender suck'. God forbid their fantasy world have something in it that's not pitch-black gritty darkness.
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Fuck 'em, Tasslehoff Burrfoot ruled when I was a kid and he rules now.
 
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Mikoyan said:
And me too. That and oddly the later fortress battle where they used the FUCK out of the Dragonlances. Also, fun fact? The something Awful goons I know hate the absolute living FUCK out of Dragonlance. They'd have this deep down visceral reaction whenever it came up. I couldn't even get a coherent reason why out of them other than 'Kender suck'. God forbid their fantasy world have something in it that's not pitch-black gritty darkness.
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If you've ever sat down and played a game with the kind of person who would choose kender as their race, you'd understand. While I personally love a lot of things about Dragonlance (minotaur sailors, draconians, dungeon diving potential with all the ruins from a global collapse, etc.), kleptomaniac halflings that constantly steal from party members fucking suck. Dark Sun's cannibal halflings were far more interesting.
 
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Healthy Boy Brand said:
When I re-read them after about 12 years it felt like a barely novelized D&D campaign. Especially Dragons of Autumn Twilight.
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If you want “My D&D campaign in book form” then Raymond E Feist is your man. The entire Magician series is literally based on a D&D homebrew setting he made in college.
 
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Whether you agree with Moira or not she earned that right by what she went through. How anyone can see the hippy hogwash that is Mists of Avalon and how those real beliefs hurt a woman and go "oh but muh homophobia" is beyond me.
 
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Whether you agree with Moira or not she earned that right by what she went through. How anyone can see the hippy hogwash that is Mists of Avalon and how those real beliefs hurt a woman and go "oh but muh homophobia" is beyond me.
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That child molester is precisely 1% away from outright victim blaming, but is too much of a faggot to commit.
 
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PhoBingas said:
The TL;DR is that her parents were weird faggots that had weird faggot sex with anything they could get their hands on. She came out as pretty anti-gay, as in like anti gay child adoption, anti gay marriage and shit; but can you blame her?
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I knew she revealed all the fucked up shit her parents were up to, and calling out the pedo shit in SF/F, didn't know she was so based in general.
 
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