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Idolshit was always a part of macross but it was funny how the Zentradi only turned around to join humanity because they wanted to simp for idols and had no concept of music before.
I hated that on my first viewing of Macross, but when I rewatched it, I actually came to appreciate it as a sort of Star Trek: First Contact-esque thing about getting along through appreciating the more important things, like art and science, over war and humanity being awesome. Also Robotech will always be superior to Macross since its interpretation of protoculture is cooler and the sequels don't have loli Zentradi or aliens being sung to death.
 
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I'm extremely pissed off. Escaflowne is out of print. Okay I'm not like EXTREMELY pissed. But I'm kinda ticked.

Is it worth getting the Bandai version? I know it won't give the high def pristine that the bluray does. But I'm just curious about it. What is the "Escaflowne at the bar" stuff? I can't find anything on what this feature is.

Oh and random but is the anime like entirely mech battles? Was hoping for more of a fantasy feel. Not to say mecha is bad cause it isn't.

Also I know Ocean Group is the dub. How are they versus the new Funimation dub? (I should mention i adore Ocean. They and Liquid Violet dub group are superior to every American dub group with the exception being the original pokemon dub cast) I believe I read somewhere that Andrew Francis playing one of the characters is essentially perfect matchcasting due to his age at the time?
 
Oh and random but is the anime like entirely mech battles? Was hoping for more of a fantasy feel. Not to say mecha is bad cause it isn't.
There's mecha fights, but it's still ultimately fantasy. Most of the draw of the show is through Hitomi's powers, and her and Van's relationship, and Dilandau being the greatest psychopath.

Sucks to hear Escaflowne is now out-of-print. I think you can still find good secondhand copies of the Bandai release for a decent price, though. Check your closest thrift stores, too.

I believe I read somewhere that Andrew Francis playing one of the characters is essentially perfect matchcasting due to his age at the time?
I can believe it. He's just awesome as Dilandau, both in the series and the movie. Oh my God, movie Dilandau is just *drooling sounds*
 
There's mecha fights, but it's still ultimately fantasy. Most of the draw of the show is through Hitomi's powers, and her and Van's relationship, and Dilandau being the greatest psychopath.
Also Allen getting mercilessly cockblocked at all times by the universe itself despite being a perfectly decent guy.
 
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Found a commercial video featuring the voice actor Takaya Kuroda as Takeyama, a yakuza ghost, in Gokushufudou (The Way of the House Husband)

And here is a bunch of personal manga recommendations:

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Brittany Hanayome Ibun / The strange tale of the bride of Brittany (Takehara Junji - 2022-ongoing)

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Crazy Food Truck (Ogaki Rokuru - 2020-2022 / 3 volumes)

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Erio and the Eletric Doll (Kuroi Mori - 2023-ongoing)


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Keyman: The Hand of Judgment (Warai Naku - 2011-2017 / 13 volumes)
 
They leaned way too much into the idolshit and forgot it was a mecha series about a space air force using veritech fighters first and foremost. With some drama thrown in and actual stakes.
I mean, you can tell which Macross series is worth a shit from the actual drama and stakes, and a lot of that has to do with who the main villain is, or what the overarching existential threats are.

SDF Macross had the Zentraedi, Plus had malevolent AI, and Zero had the anti-UN Forces (and Roy's old Flight Instructor). Hence why the conflict had a strong foundation for good drama and stakes, because the villains themselves were either threatening and compelling in a way that brought out the best from the protagonists and supporting cast.

Macross 7's villain were boring-ass vampires, and Frontier's villain were boring, faceless, non-descript space bugs (oh, I'm sorry, don't forget Sheryl's secretary and her AI masters, who they introduce at the 11th hour and actually expect the audience to give a fuck about). And sure enough, the trend of those shows were also that they were music-heavy and idol-centric to each respective show's detriment--almost like way more time and effort was put into those things than the stakes or the villains.

This is why, for the record, Delta was actually less of a chore to watch than those two above, because for whatever other flaws that show had (many of which can be attributed to its disastrous production cycle), the antagonist concept was really interesting. An alien nation declaring themselves as the genetic inheritors of the Protoculture, and forming a squadron of Red Baron-esque Aerial Knights is a very cool idea, and made for a faction that had a lot of potential--that was only rarely explored on-screen, unfortunately. But even in spite of that, I remember distinct confrontations involving the Aerial Knights, and characters like Bogue who were outright malicious and hateful towards members of their own race like Freyja who they saw as race traitors and accessories to the "tyrannical UN Spacy".

Again, never explored to its fullest potential, but still somewhat memorable and distinct in the rogues gallery across the Macross franchise. Whereas I neither can or care to muster a single recollection about the SHIT tier villains from M7 or Frontier.

If there's anything that the Sunrise series needs to fix, it's this.

Also Robotech will always be superior to Macross since its interpretation of protoculture is cooler and the sequels don't have loli Zentradi or aliens being sung to death.
Lol, but then you have to account for the fact that all Robotech got for sequels was trash like The Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles. If that poorly animated garbage is your acceptable trade-off for having the Protoculture--something never even seen on-screen---being "cooler", then you do you, I suppose.

I'll stick to DYRL, Plus and Zero, thanks. Those are worthy extensions/follow-ups to the original Macross, and really, all the Macross I'll ever need.

I'm extremely pissed off. Escaflowne is out of print. Okay I'm not like EXTREMELY pissed. But I'm kinda ticked.

Is it worth getting the Bandai version? I know it won't give the high def pristine that the bluray does. But I'm just curious about it.
If you have the ability to import, the UK region Blu-Ray release of Escaflowne is still in print, thanks to AllTheAnime still holding onto the license in Britbong Land. I snagged a copy for like £18 earlier last year--and it has the OG Dub.

Having a region-free Blu-Ray player is an absolute must if you're into collecting older anime, because US Distributors like ViZ and Funimation don't hold onto licenses forever, and their stock diminishes very quickly. I learned that the hard way when I got into all things Tenchi last year, only to realize that Funimation's License had expired ages ago, and the Blu-Rays for the OVAs now go for eye-watering prices....whereas MVM in the UK still has the license, and the Blu-Rays are not only still in print, but come in a box-set with an artbook and the Mihoshi Special on DVD.

It's kind of crazy how much cheaper certain anime licenses are in the UK compared to the US. Nadesico, Gundam, Nadia, they're all way cheaper over there. And in the case of shows like Gunbuster or Magic Knight Rayearth, have far more lavish collector's editions than what the US has on offer.
 
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Found a commercial video featuring the voice actor Takaya Kuroda as Takeyama, a yakuza ghost, in Gokushufudou (The Way of the House Husband)

And here is a bunch of personal manga recommendations:

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Brittany Hanayome Ibun / The strange tale of the bride of Brittany (Takehara Junji - 2022-ongoing)

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Crazy Food Truck (Ogaki Rokuru - 2020-2022 / 3 volumes)

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Erio and the Eletric Doll (Kuroi Mori - 2023-ongoing)


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Keyman: The Hand of Judgment (Warai Naku - 2011-2017 / 13 volumes)
Is that Brittany one like a romcom between Arthur, Lancelot, and Guinevere or something?
 
Lol, but then you have to account for the fact that all Robotech got for sequels was trash like The Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles. If that poorly animated garbage is your acceptable trade-off for having the Protoculture--something never even seen on-screen---being "cooler", then you do you, I suppose.
I recall it was either some glowing greenish liquid or looked like a green tinted allspark for some reason in Genesis Climber MOSPEADA. Which was also part of robotech. Either way its not explicitly shown on screen.

Only saw some gameplay footage of the JP only macross frontier games and a few model kits from frontier and delta and the idolshit being front and center was enough for me to pass on it. Seems like I made the right choice as it was definitely all style over substance as my first impression. Versus SDF Macross I was introduced to the series with. Also never heard of Macross 7 but I did watch Plus and Zero with the over the top well animated dogfight scenes. Discovering Macross Plus renewed my faith of what the series could be as the ending message was touching.
 
Watching the Demon Slayer new season opening, it's amazing how little shit I give. They really nuked the entire plot and characters to the point I don't give a shit. Which, while not special for shonen, is very much a speedrun for a single arc.

Like the whole mystic plot becomes Resident Evil clone. Tanjiro became a Ichigo level mary sue. Nezuko (and by extension Tanjiro) doesn't have the conflict her entire character is built on. Everybody is already as strong as Hasira's are. The villains are just boring. Even the fight scenes feel empty, who gives a shit about techniques when everything is shit compared to the hero's techniques?
 
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The more I read Love Hina (slow slog, takes me a couple hours to read a volume), the more I'm convinced the anime might've been sabotaged. I can't confirm it, though, and if I can ever find that one Tumblr post talking about the manga vs. anime issues, I might be able to connect things. Like I don't know how you can badly fuck up characters in an adaptation unless you were purposefully changing the script and making them look bad. Legit, anime-Keitarou is just a punching bag loser while manga-Keitarou just has such bad luck to get himself into awkward situations and is a loveable loser, and anime-Naru is a complete sociopathic cunt while manga-Naru actually has a heart and does care for Keitarou, even learning to not lash out at him as time goes on. Same goes for the other girls, there's actual character and motive to them in the manga that the anime doesn't even address.

Does anyone have a good idea as to what might've happened during the anime's production to make it a painful experience? I'm just so baffled by it every time I pick up a volume and find myself not hating anything about it.
 
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Watching the Demon Slayer new season opening, it's amazing how little shit I give. They really nuked the entire plot and characters to the point I don't give a shit. Which, while not special for shonen, is very much a speedrun for a single arc.

Like the whole mystic plot becomes Resident Evil clone. Tanjiro became a Ichigo level mary sue. Nezuko (and by extension Tanjiro) doesn't have the conflict her entire character is built on. Everybody is already as strong as Hasira's are. The villains are just boring. Even the fight scenes feel empty, who gives a shit about techniques when everything is shit compared to the hero's techniques?
It's looking like this arc should be the last one: our favourite characters are starting their Hashira training, Nezuko is slowly getting better, and the villain is planning to attack them directly.
 
I'm extremely pissed off. Escaflowne is out of print. Okay I'm not like EXTREMELY pissed. But I'm kinda ticked.

Is it worth getting the Bandai version? I know it won't give the high def pristine that the bluray does. But I'm just curious about it. What is the "Escaflowne at the bar" stuff? I can't find anything on what this feature is.

Oh and random but is the anime like entirely mech battles? Was hoping for more of a fantasy feel. Not to say mecha is bad cause it isn't.

Also I know Ocean Group is the dub. How are they versus the new Funimation dub? (I should mention i adore Ocean. They and Liquid Violet dub group are superior to every American dub group with the exception being the original pokemon dub cast) I believe I read somewhere that Andrew Francis playing one of the characters is essentially perfect matchcasting due to his age at the time?

It begins with mech fights, but it manages to maintain a very...'Noble' sort of feel all throughout it. Like most of the episodes revolve around stuff happening outside of Escaflowne itself in this fantastical world; and whenever the mechs come out, it's treated with the same degree of gravitas as lords putting on their armor and riding out into battle. There's more fantasy political intrigue and inter-party character interactions than there are fights
 
The more I read Love Hina (slow slog, takes me a couple hours to read a volume), the more I'm convinced the anime might've been sabotaged. I can't confirm it, though, and if I can ever find that one Tumblr post talking about the manga vs. anime issues, I might be able to connect things. Like I don't know how you can badly fuck up characters in an adaptation unless you were purposefully changing the script and making them look bad. Legit, anime-Keitarou is just a punching bag loser while manga-Keitarou just has such bad luck to get himself into awkward situations and is a loveable loser, and anime-Naru is a complete sociopathic cunt while manga-Naru actually has a heart and does care for Keitarou, even learning to not lash out at him as time goes on. Same goes for the other girls, there's actual character and motive to them in the manga that the anime doesn't even address.

Does anyone have a good idea as to what might've happened during the anime's production to make it a painful experience? I'm just so baffled by it every time I pick up a volume and find myself not hating anything about it.
that remnds me, anyone think shit like the anime adaptation of love hina help lead to the incel epidemic? by god why did they think this violent chick sthick was funny when the victim didnt deserve it?
 

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I have been reading this since late 2022, and I sincerely hope that this does well. The Gyaru Era™ is not dying down any time soon, and I have no problem with that.

Plus, these designs:

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I really hope they do Mona and Kuroiwa justice, and I honestly can’t wait to see how they will animate Tomo and Asahi.

Either way, between 2.5D Seduction and this, this is probably another great year for some of my favorite manga getting anime adaptations, and it (almost) made me think I was living in the mid to late 2010’s rediscovering the good parts of the harem genre.
Though, it’s a shame that I’ll never get a second season of Rokudo’s Bad Gals. I liked that manga a lot and thought the anime version was decent to good 😔
 
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that remnds me, anyone think shit like the anime adaptation of love hina help lead to the incel epidemic? by god why did they think this violent chick sthick was funny when the victim didnt deserve it?
That's just the way manga/animu culture has developed because Japs are weirdos

Think how many times you've seen a male character basically getting molested by a female thot character, screaming no stop at the top of his lungs

Then another female character walks in

No way she didn't hear him screaming please stop

And instead of getting mad at the thot character

She blows her stack at the male character and knocks his ass out in hilarious fashion for being a lewd pervert

The "male character gets smacked into orbit by female character for being lewd when he wasn't being lewd" has to be the number one gag of manga/animu by far
 
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