Opinion The Cass Report Sells Out Gays and Vaginas - Debbie Downer reporting for duty

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UNYIELDING BICYCLIST
APR 10, 2024

The Cass Report just landed in the UK. It’s a 388-page study of youth gender medicine in England and Wales authored by an eminent pediatrician, Hilary Cass. It recommends reform but not revolution, trashing puberty blockers but staying silent on the side effects of steroids.

In this post I’ll tell you what Cass says (and doesn’t say) about gays, medical harms of synthetic hormones, and gender identity.

Note: I haven’t read the whole thing. I hadn’t planned to write about it all, but then I realized it would be sadly easy to cover how it addressed topics I care most about. So here goes. Normally I edit my pieces to tone down sarcasm but I won’t do that tonight since it’s breaking news. I’m soooooo sorry.

Gays​

Hannah Barnes’ 2023 book about this exact subject — youth gender medicine in England — identifies homophobia as a menace that’s driving gay kids to seek gender medicine. It repeatedly quotes clinicians expressing their shock about the anti-gay bullying kids suffer. Callous straight clinicians and supervisors appear, in her reporting, to be part of the problem. (I’ll be writing about Time to Think in an upcoming post.)

There’s another reason it’s important to understand the gay-trans connection: because homosexuality has a biological basis, and since so many trans people are actually gay, the forces of trans are able to produce studies that show a correlation between, e.g., prenatal androgen exposure and saying you’re trans. But the truth is there’s no biological basis for gender identity.

You can’t understand trans without understanding gay, but Cass only deals with homosexuality superficially.

Page 67: Mentions that historically, most kids with “gender-identity disorder” (a nonsense diagnosis) grew up to be gay.

Page 96: Mentions the number of trans-identified suicide victims who were LGB. No commentary.

Page 100: Sexuality basics. “Females are most commonly attracted to male partners,” etc.

Page 101: Correlations between DSDs and sexual orientation.

Page 118-19: Section on “changes in concepts of gender and sexuality.”

“It is important to consider the relationship between sexual identity and gender identity given that sexuality contributes to a person’s sense of identity[.]”

Acknowledges that a lot of trans-identified kids are gay (also mentioned on page 68 ).

Mentions GIDS clinicians don’t have a lot of data on sexuality. Why not? “[M]ixed responses were given by GIDS clinicians about the extent to which they explore sexuality with patients[.]” Doesn’t point out that “gender” clinicians who don’t discuss sexuality with their adolescent patients are a disgrace.

“Clinicians and parents reported that gay students are still being stigmatised and bullied in school and there is sometimes a perception that there is less validation for them than for trans pupils. However, the Review also heard multiple testimonies attesting that having a diverse gender identity is a difficult path with young people subjected to bullying and abuse.”

The experience of gay kids must never receive its own paragraph free of trans shit. Thank you, Hilary Cass, for your conscientiousness in observing this law. I guess she’s implying the old cliche, “no one would choose to be trans over gay,” but her point isn’t clear. No analysis. The second sentence is her excuse for not thinking about the first sentence at all.

“In some strictly religious cultures, being transgender is seen as preferable to being same-sex attracted as it is then perceived as a physical rather than a psychological issue.”

I wonder where they got that idea from. The New Testament? The Quran? No, the answer is 1970s gender doctors. (The opposite is true: attraction is rooted in pheromone processing and gender confusion is caused by metaphorical brain worms.)

“In reality, for any individual young person, there will be different socio-cultural influences that impact on their understanding of both their gender and sexual identity, and this is an area that warrants better exploration and understanding.”

Or you could just rely on deductive reasoning skills to determine that gender identity doesn’t exist, and then quickly get to helping gay kids. But no, further study instead.

Page 122: mentions “gender non-contentedness” is “more often associated with same-sex attraction[.]”

Page 188: Mentions Littman study where 23% of detransitioners cited internalized homophobia as a reason they transed. Doesn’t mention that Littman hadn’t even asked about it — the number would likely be higher if she had.

Vaginas​

I searched the document for vaginas because I was trying to see whether Cass addressed the physical harms of overdosing on synthetic hormones (“cross-sex” isn’t quite right since women naturally produce testosterone and men, estrogen), which include painful vaginal atrophy.

Here’s the report’s only mention of vaginas:

¨If puberty suppression is started too early in birth-registered males it can make subsequent vaginoplasty (creation of a vagina and vulva) more difficult due to inadequate penile growth.¨

There’s no mention of clitorises, which can become painfully and permanently enlarged by taking synthetic T and chafe against clothing.

Six mentions of penises.

The section on synthetic hormones begins on page 182. It’s mostly about mental health. Here’s Cass’s excuse for skipping over the medical problems with poisoning young gays:

“Understanding side effects and longer-term complications [of synthetic hormone overdoses] are important for the health of the transgender community, but in terms of patient choice are unlikely to have a major impact on treatment decisions.”

Translation: these young people are too brainwashed to care about their health so we’re not even going to state the facts about their health in this report.

In 2023 I compiled a very incomplete list of stories on risks/side effects of synthetic hormones here (bottom).

Notes on Santa Claus​

Cass uses the term gender identity 395 times. Here’s how she defines it:

“In 1966, Kohlberg set out a theory of gender identity development. Kohlberg’s theory describes the typical progression of children acquiring gender identity (realising they are boys or girls) at 2-3 years old, acquiring gender stability (realising that gender does not change) at 3-4 years, and acquiring gender constancy (realising that superficial indicators such as clothes do not change gender) at 5-6 years.
“Modern childhood experiences are different from when Kohlberg was writing, and contemporary research is needed to better understand and examine these fundamental principles, as well as the influence of early childhood experiences on gender identity development.”

Kohlberg’s theory explains how kids learn about sex, not gender. We do not need further research. This is an outright cop-out.

I do like the acknowledgment that kids today have different experiences. Perhaps Kohlberg would name the new developmental stage “gender mindfuck.” Kids reach it whenever the schools start indoctrinating them.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

What is a vagina, some kind of a front hole?

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Nigger how is homo shit biological?

For decades the faggots have been searching for the "gay gene" or a link between hereditary and being a faggot and you know what, they still ain't found it.

Because it don't exists. Faggot fathers may indeed produce a higher then average numbers of faggot children but that's far more linked to sexual abuse at a young age then any inherited tendencies via genetics.

If, and it's a big if, faggotry is somehow passed down thru genes wouldn't it then self select out of the population due to...you know faggots fucking each other in the ass and not having intercourse with the opposing sex? It's pretty damn hard to have children when all you do is shove your dick in other men's anuses.

The faggot brigade has been pushing this "gay gene" shit since the 80's in the hope that it will somehow normalize their behavior. We've all heard the "baby I was born this way" shit they're trying to push onto normal people. The biggest ghost in the gay sociological studies is the prevalence of child sex abuse but we can't talk about that no way no siree Bob! Just because a high percentage of "born gay" people had sexually abusive parents is just anecdotal for sure.

No, just admit your gay because it's a choice you made at some point in your life. And stop trying to make the world part of your homo cult. Trust me, if faggotry became mainstream something like 60% of gay's would suddenly be straight because it's the taboo thrill they crave psychologically and not just dick.

Sorry...rant over. It's just I've been listen to this same shit line since the 80's and it still pisses me off.

 

[Professor G. Raff]

What is a vagina, some kind of a front hole?

It's called a bonus hole, chud bigot. Unless that is the new media-accredited terminology in which case I will grovel on my knees to apologize to the beautiful, strong wymxn with female penises for doing verbal violence to their community.

 

[Gog & Magog]

is this what we're really calling women now?

I haven’t read the whole thing.

Then neither shall I read your article! Nah, just kidding. I read it. I see the author's point.

 

[Dysnomia]

What is a vagina, some kind of a front hole?

It's the opposite of girldick. That's basic biology.

It's called a bonus hole, chud bigot. Unless that is the new media-accredited terminology in which case I will grovel on my knees to apologize to the beautiful, strong wymxn with female penises for doing verbal violence to their community.

You'd think the asshole would be the bonus hole. But we've deluded tomboys into thinking their vagina is a medical condition that needs to be treated with hormones and attaching a freaky floppy arm flesh tube that will never feel anything.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

UNYIELDING BICYCLIST

I assume this is some random britbong lesbian with a face like a schnauzer and a propensity for calling people "Nigels." But that doesn't answer why any of us should give a shit about her analysis.

 

[PhoBingas]

Because it don't exists. Faggot fathers may indeed produce a higher then average numbers of faggot children but that's far more linked to sexual abuse at a young age then any inherited tendencies via genetics.

Way more likely those "gay" kids got diddled by their parents. Every gay with access to children is another Walter Breen waiting to happen if it isn't already going on.

 

[LurkTrawl]

It's called a bonus hole

I still laugh like an idiot every time I read that phrase.

 

[#FF0000]

Nigger how is homo shit biological?

For decades the faggots have been searching for the "gay gene" or a link between hereditary and being a faggot and you know what, they still ain't found it.

Because it don't exists. Faggot fathers may indeed produce a higher then average numbers of faggot children but that's far more linked to sexual abuse at a young age then any inherited tendencies via genetics.

If, and it's a big if, faggotry is somehow passed down thru genes wouldn't it then self select out of the population due to...you know faggots fucking each other in the ass and not having intercourse with the opposing sex? It's pretty damn hard to have children when all you do is shove your dick in other men's anuses.

The faggot brigade has been pushing this "gay gene" shit since the 80's in the hope that it will somehow normalize their behavior. We've all heard the "baby I was born this way" shit they're trying to push onto normal people. The biggest ghost in the gay sociological studies is the prevalence of child sex abuse but we can't talk about that no way no siree Bob! Just because a high percentage of "born gay" people had sexually abusive parents is just anecdotal for sure.

No, just admit your gay because it's a choice you made at some point in your life. And stop trying to make the world part of your homo cult. Trust me, if faggotry became mainstream something like 60% of gay's would suddenly be straight because it's the taboo thrill they crave psychologically and not just dick.

Sorry...rant over. It's just I've been listen to this same shit line since the 80's and it still pisses me off.

I respectfully disagree but I completely understand where you're coming from.

The majority of gays nowadays are just choosing it or were abused into being it, I can definitely agree with you on that, but I believe people can legitimately be born gay, and in fact sometimes the opposite; a gay kid being abused into becoming straight, which is extremely rare but I know of a friend who went through that.

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I'll use myself as an example, even though it's quite a bit of powerleveling. I'm a fag, I'm not ashamed nor proud. I didn't feel any attraction to anyone until puberty, and once I did hit it, I felt attraction to some guys in my school, but not a single girl. I was not abused as a child, I didn't know what porn was, I had a very normal life, and I didn't even know what a vagina or bare breast looked like. Hell, I thought girls didn't have nipples!

When I did finally see what a vagina looked like, it grossed me out and it still grosses me out. I can't be attracted to that, even if I wanted to, and the same applies to women in general. Honestly, I kinda do wanna be straight. I want to be normal, not draw attention to myself and just conform to society and eventually raise a family of my own. I don't wanna be irreverent or be outside the mainstream.

Again, I do totally understand where you're coming from, especially in these times, but I still strongly disagree with the idea that being gay is always, unconditionally unnatural. I believe there's at least a few that are just naturally born like that.

Sorry for rambling if this isn't the place to do it, I just felt like replying.

 

[Troonos]

I believe people can legitimately be born gay

True. People can indeed be born with mental illness.

 

[klarine]

When I did finally see what a vagina looked like, it grossed me out

Dude I know this aint voluntary but how is a man's hairy arse any better

 

[SiccDicc]

For decades the faggots have been searching for the "gay gene" or a link between hereditary and being a faggot and you know what, they still ain't found it.

Nah, they just say it exists while shutting down any actual effort to find it. This happened a long time ago, but there were scientists trying to find the gay gene. I think they were even sympathetic to the gay cause. Then organization after organization assailed them until they quit the effort. Gays do not want to find the gene, they just want you to believe it exists.

Same shit happens whenever someone tries to prove or disprove racial IQ disparity.

I believe people can legitimately be born gay

I believe it's more hormonal than genetic. Although, I suppose genes can play into that, but it's a developmental thing and seems largely random. It's not like the X Gene or shit like that.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The faggot brigade has been pushing this "gay gene" shit since the 80's in the hope that it will somehow normalize their behavior. We've all heard the "baby I was born this way" shit they're trying to push onto normal people. The biggest ghost in the gay sociological studies is the prevalence of child sex abuse but we can't talk about that no way no siree Bob! Just because a high percentage of "born gay" people had sexually abusive parents is just anecdotal for sure.

If that "gay gene" exists, I'll blame it on the chemicals thrown in the water that turn the freakin' frogs gay as Alex Jones said.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

I believe it's more hormonal than genetic. Although, I suppose genes can play into that, but it's a developmental thing and seems largely random. It's not like the X Gene or shit like that.

It could be a genetic anomaly that just pops up sometimes similar to Down syndrome, but we haven't identified what it is. We can't remove of Downies from the gene pool because it's a random mutation, though there are certain risk factors (eg. parental age) that can make it more likely.

 

[Feathers McGraw]

If, and it's a big if, faggotry is somehow passed down thru genes wouldn't it then self select out of the population due to...you know faggots fucking each other in the ass and not having intercourse with the opposing sex?

Not really. There are thousands of inherited genetic disorders that limit or remove the ability to reproduce, and these haven't been self-selected out of the gene pool. It's possible being gay is one of these, though it seems very unlikely.

This writer just has a pathological need to be the victim, and thus everything that happens is somehow a vicious attack against her. A lot of faggots are like that (source: am faggot). She's completely right that it's retarded to pretend "gender identity" is a real thing though, and it's irritating that the report pussyfoots around it.

The problem highlighted by Barnes/Cass is that teenagers are insecure and like to claim "identities" like being bisexual or non-binary and generally "not like the other girls", especially if it's trendy and their friends are doing it. The correct response is to just roll your eyes and not enable their tantrums, rather than diagnosing them with a medical condition, prescribing hormones and cutting off their tits. That wouldn't make surgeons and drug manufacturers millions of dollars though.

 

[Otterly]

In this post I’ll tell you what Cass says (and doesn’t say) about gays, medical harms of synthetic hormones, and gender identity.

Note: I haven’t read the whole thing.

So why are you writing about it then? It’s not even that long a report, under 400 pages, that’s a couple of hours at most. At least read the fucking thing

 

[Flamin Park]

Nigger how is homo shit biological?

For decades the faggots have been searching for the "gay gene" or a link between hereditary and being a faggot and you know what, they still ain't found it.

Because it don't exists. Faggot fathers may indeed produce a higher then average numbers of faggot children but that's far more linked to sexual abuse at a young age then any inherited tendencies via genetics.

If, and it's a big if, faggotry is somehow passed down thru genes wouldn't it then self select out of the population due to...you know faggots fucking each other in the ass and not having intercourse with the opposing sex? It's pretty damn hard to have children when all you do is shove your dick in other men's anuses.

The faggot brigade has been pushing this "gay gene" shit since the 80's in the hope that it will somehow normalize their behavior. We've all heard the "baby I was born this way" shit they're trying to push onto normal people. The biggest ghost in the gay sociological studies is the prevalence of child sex abuse but we can't talk about that no way no siree Bob! Just because a high percentage of "born gay" people had sexually abusive parents is just anecdotal for sure.

No, just admit your gay because it's a choice you made at some point in your life. And stop trying to make the world part of your homo cult. Trust me, if faggotry became mainstream something like 60% of gay's would suddenly be straight because it's the taboo thrill they crave psychologically and not just dick.

Sorry...rant over. It's just I've been listen to this same shit line since the 80's and it still pisses me off.

Generally homosexuality tends to increase with population density and the number of kids a woman has. If you're the 5th brother you're far more likely to be gay. There's a theory that since gays don't generally have kids (outside of modern technology, or hiding it and marrying women, they have more resources to expend on nieces and nephews who still carry a lot of their genetic code. Basically homosexuality is a dormant trait that activates to reduce population density like power saving mode for your phone

 

[grenouille crétine]

Sorry for rambling if this isn't the place to do it, I just felt like replying.

You don’t need to apologize for responding thoughtfully to a spergout. One does not expect much new or novel from A&N commentators, lol.

So why are you writing about it then? It’s not even that long a report, under 400 pages, that’s a couple of hours at most. At least read the fucking thing

To be fair, the very next sentence is literally:

I hadn’t planned to write about it all, but then I realized it would be sadly easy to cover how it addressed topics I care most about.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Why are gays and women always lumped into the oppression sphere?

Apart from maybe needing more comprehensive healthcare than your average straight man would those two demographics don't really have anything in common and have different needs socially and politically.