"Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

[Big Mommy]

If someone with a big platform that was generally not associated with Kiwifarms did an exposé on Dong Gone's consent accident and ties to Keffals, that's all it would take to get him canceled. He isn't untouchable and he hasn't done a good job of covering up his mistakes.

If someone loud enough decided to scrutinize him he'd crumble. He has no good qualities and can't hide behind any of his achievements. The only thing he's achieved is riding off the coattails of others.

I have mixed feelings about this. Having someone of note talk about it is better than nobody of note talking about it, attention brought to the subject is obviously better even if people cross their arms and refuse to acknowledge what is being said. But when you look at reactions to Mutahar/SomeOrdinaryGamers Keffals exposé, you see how firmly entrenched in team warfare some people are, to the point they will attack thumbnail artists and the wife of the video creator rather than engaging with the subject itself and the many valid criticisms brought up in it. This is despite Keffals being thoroughly disowned by every side at this point, his misbehaviors widely regarded as fact rather than conjecture. It's also valid to argue that the majority of the Internet are silent observers, people who read and watch things without subsequently posting about it or discussing them in public and their minds can be swayed by such things, even if we can't observe this. It can also be argued that SomeOrdinaryGamers isn't some prominent voice and what is needed is mainstream publications to cover it, but at the same time a 3.7m YouTuber who can get almost 900k views in 5 days has numbers that the "mainstream" would kill for.

What I'm trying to say is that I don't know how successful such things can be and the backlash from exposing someone as universally disliked as Keffals might be argued to have not swayed any minds, where there were repercussions for the people involved in making that exposé. I'd certainly like someone to give more attention to Liz Fong Jones and the things he gets up to, but if it had an arguable impact on Keffals then how much impact can it really have on Dong Gone, who has powerful connections and works largely from the shadows? People should be brave, they should try to give Elliot the attention he deserves but the people with the largest impact and reach in this generation are afraid to misgender or say the fuck word on their platforms, not by choice but because the platforms are pro-censorship on an automated level even before human intervention, which mostly sides with those who wish to do the censoring - I don't know if they'd be willing or able to take the risk and, even if they did, how much impact it would have. Also, maybe I am wrong in my pessimism (and I hope I am) and the fact that a 3.7m YouTuber can and will talk about these kinds of things is a sign that the pendulum is swinging back the other way which can lead to more of these people being exposed for who they are.

Erm, eh... I mean Sneed.

Also Null if you're looking for more bardcore to play on stream can I suggest this?

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

It can also be argued that SomeOrdinaryGamers isn't some prominent voice and what is needed is mainstream publications to cover it, but at the same time a 3.7m YouTuber who can get almost 900k views in 5 days has numbers that the "mainstream" would kill for.

The fact some guy sitting in front of a webcam can outcompete legitimate news outlets like CNN in viewership really just shows how outdated, weak and frail they are and we should take this perpetual decline as an opportunity to supplant them.

 

[Black Spruce]

So what you're saying is we should just abandon any and all things which make us distinct from an enemy we hate for doing the very things you're advocating for, up to and including harboring pedophiles.

This is monumentally retarded.

What I'm saying is that you can't win the proverbial throne without using effective tactics and making alliances with people you hate. Those people you hate can be dealt with later, as there are more pressing matters. Those pressing matters being a large collection of powerful and wealthy people with institutional power coordinating to take away every ounce of freedom you have, and to see your children castrated or groomed into prostitution. What happens if the left wins is actually an unimaginable horror, and it goes way beyond just simply not being able to use the internet. If a united right crushes them and becomes the dominant force in society, the fracturing can return, the right can start fighting among themselves again, and those gross degenerates won't be able to get what they want.

It's very clearly not a popular opinion. But the dying with your principles thing is a ship that needs abandoning. We're literally about a decade away from living in the equivalent of an episode of Black Mirror. That is assuming this all continues the way it's going uninterrupted. The only other way out is for us to lose WWIII. But anyway. That's my two cents. I don't have anything else to say.

 

[SargonF00t]

I've got a couple of things to say about Null's take on the refusal of anti-censors/right-wingers to work together. While this is 100% true, Null is guilty of the same purity spiralling which causes this. He almost never has anything positive to say about the likes of Nick Fuentes, Steven Crowder, Dick Masterson, Ethan Ralph, etc, and refuses to associate with them.

Are you completely fucked in the head?

Nick Fuentes, Steven Crowder, Dick Masterson, Ethan Ralph are grifters with no morality whatsoever and an absolute blight on Right Wing politics. One only goes near them if they want to lose.

 

[Col]

Are you completely fucked in the head?

Nick Fuentes, Steven Crowder, Dick Masterson, Ethan Ralph are grifters with no morality whatsoever and an absolute blight on Right Wing politics. One only goes near them if they want to lose.

That was his point. The left covers for all leftists, no matter how terrible they are. The right does not for all rightists.

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

He almost never has anything positive to say about the likes of Nick Fuentes, Steven Crowder, Dick Masterson, Ethan Ralph

I wonder why! What a fucking mystery!

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Absolutely crazy a bunch of insane rapists in drag have almost as much pull as the United States Federal Government.

They’re the same thing these days. Take a look at the Biden regime

He almost never has anything positive to say about the likes of Nick Fuentes, Steven Crowder, Dick Masterson, Ethan Ralph, etc, and refuses to associate with them. His reasons are for the most part justified.

Because they’re all grifters who don’t care about actual beliefs and are just giving lukewarm takes to drain retards of their money and soothe the massive egos

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

What I'm saying is that you can't win the proverbial throne without using effective tactics and making alliances with people you hate. Those people you hate can be dealt with later, as there are more pressing matters. Those pressing matters being a large collection of powerful and wealthy people with institutional power coordinating to take away every ounce of freedom you have, and to see your children castrated or groomed into prostitution. What happens if the left wins is actually an unimaginable horror, and it goes way beyond just simply not being able to use the internet. If a united right crushes them and becomes the dominant force in society, the fracturing can return, the right can start fighting among themselves again, and those gross degenerates won't be able to get what they want.

It's very clearly not a popular opinion. But the dying with your principles thing is a ship that needs abandoning. We're literally about a decade away from living in the equivalent of an episode of Black Mirror. That is assuming this all continues the way it's going uninterrupted. The only other way out is for us to lose WWIII. But anyway. That's my two cents. I don't have anything else to say.

Defending Ali Alexander is how we save the West? No thanks.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Are you completely fucked in the head?

Nick Fuentes, Steven Crowder, Dick Masterson, Ethan Ralph are grifters with no morality whatsoever and an absolute blight on Right Wing politics. One only goes near them if they want to lose.

Not only that, but even from a purely pragmatic perspective, they have nothing of value to offer to the cause, they're a detriment both morally and practically.

And let's be real, the left have something in abundance which the right and center are in desperate need of, and that's competence. These are not deficits that the likes of Fuentes, Dick Masterson or Ethan Ralph can fill, they're not even good as a megaphone to reach a broader audience either because they've all hemorrhaged their audiences like so much dysentery.

The sort of people we need are ones with technical ability like Crunklord and large, famous platforms like Joe Rogan. The fact there is exactly one guy who is willing to represent Dearest Feeder as a lawyer is frighteningly sparse, meanwhile the Left have their pick of the litter.

The people @Black Spruce is advocating for are worthless retards with no ability, no credibility and in some cases harbor a cabal of sexual predators. At that point, Null would be better off making Internet fwiends with Destiny and debating the merits of Tier 1 deplatforming on Tiny's Twitch stream.

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

@Black Spruce's entire argument is predicated in the idea that we desperately need to recruit. Fact is, Null has mentioned countless times he has contacts with people from various positions in various companies/positions. But obviously the political climate necessitates that they be stealthy for now.

If Null were to announce a new podcast featuring himself, Nick Fuentes, Milo, Crowder, Dick Masterson, AND FUCKING ETHAN RALPH, this would harm Josh and his works more than it would help.

 

[Black Spruce]

Defending Ali Alexander is how we save the West? No thanks.

I rest my case. The right has resigned itself to this terrible fate. We are all going to be slaves with no privacy, no ability to comminicate, and no way out. Our children will be raped and mutilated, and they might ask us why we did not stop the world from descending into hell. What are we gonna tell them?

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

That was his point. The left covers for all leftists, no matter how terrible they are. The right does not for all rightists.

The Biden administration was going to invite Vaush, Hasan Piker and I think Destiny to the white house for a pr thing.

Then they decided not to.

It's better to use a set of principles as a rally cry (I follow this - I don't sweat the details if you also follow this) - than to go 'OH YEAH THOSE GUYS ARE DEF IN OUR CAMP, YEAH WE ASSOCIATE WITH THOSE GUYS YEAH WE'RE ALL THE SAME GROUP'

 

[Otterly]

The tone of the Farms as a comedy and gossip rag harms its credibility as a whistleblower and activism portal.

No I disagree completely. This isn’t an activism portal. It’s a place where people can speak freely, THAT is the most critical thing. To be able to laugh at tyrants is vital. Mockery is more powerful than weapons, in some ways. Our ability to tell people they’re wrong, being ridiculous and laugh at them IS what we are fighting for. If that’s the government or some pompous politician or actor, or just saying ‘this is a man in a dress.’ It’s all the same thing. The point is we have somewhere to speak. Without that we fragment into individuals.
Back in the before times, you speak to other humans and they’d have a range of opinions. Nowadays the entirely of the cathedral is trying to make anyone who disagrees feel alone, like they’re the only one who thinks that way. That’s what all the control of speech is for.

Honestly, I can see Elon sticking his neck out for Josh at some point. Idc if he's an African jew, I see it happening.

Risky to rely on an individual. I hope he does. I hope he puts some of that giant amount of money towards a parallel and more decentralised wiring for the internet.

Quote from the article:’At least Bruno’s executioners got paid; Bilorv’s 38,828 edits were made to Wikipedia for free purely for the self-satisfaction and ego.’

This intrigues me because bloody hell that is a lot. Is this a sign that this is being driven by relatively few people? It’s hard to see that with the sheer level of institutional capture

it's all about Liz and his ilk just wanting to get away with 'consent accidents' (read: rape) without any sort of fear of repercussion

Yeah it is for them. They aren’t the prime movers, they’re the instruments being wielded. For Liz it’s spite - he’s a rapist and a control freak and all abusive people like that are driven into a frenzy by people not obeying. Liz says stop talking, kiwi farms laughs at him. That’s existential level injury to this type of abusive person. Your words deserve their violent response (that’s why they frame objection and mockery as violence, to just their violence in return.)
BUT these people are serving a bigger agenda, and that is control of the populace as a whole. TPTB have devastated our homogenous stable and high trust communities. They are flooding us with imports. They cannot maintain control the way those communities used to so they’re putting the squeeze on.
The ability to laugh at them and talk about all this so what the threat is. The troons are just the pit bulls doing the work, the people pulling the strings are different people.

It's deeply, deeply disheartening to know that Dong Long-Gong is a multi-millionaire.

He’s a eunuch, a failing man in a failing body. He has no children, no true genetic legacy. Nobody likes him. His health is poor. And when he meets his maker he will be asked some questions. That he has wealth in the here and now is irrelevant. I will be spending this weekend playing with my brood of kids, we’ve got a nice outing planned, there will be ice cream. I’ll work on my garden. That’s happiness. When I’m old and dead hopefully they will remember me with love
@Null it’s a good article. Well written and a heartfelt thanks for being such a stubborn and principled human.
I dont know if you’ve ever read Umberto Eco’s ‘The Name Of The Rose’ ? (The film is a bit rubbish and ignores the deeper theme of the book.) one of the key themes of the book is the power of laughter in opposing tyranny. The characters in the book literally kill over their opposition to it. It’s a book I’ve re read many times and I think you might find it interesting. The first time I read it I thought it was an odd and irrelevant idea, and the more I see of people like Liz and his all consuming desire to shut it down the more I understand.
(it gets a bit dense with the Latin, there’s a book called the key to the name of the rose that explains some of the less accessible bits.)

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

I am sorry Null, but I think your attitude is not gonna inspire people to fight for any cause.

Once you become a journo, you lose all the testosterone in your body. It's just a fact of life.

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

I rest my case. The right has resigned itself to this terrible fate.

It's Joever. @Sneed S. McSneedensen said he will never support Ali Alexander. The West has fallen. Millions must sneed.

 

[Atomic Ant]

eah, but the Kiwi Farms runs fanart of Ethan Ralph getting his ass beat in a weird house fight with Digibro over the sanctity of Pantsu's abandoned crap for three weeks... (2020ish) what are we to think? It looks like weird porn. The tone of the Farms as a comedy and gossip rag harms its credibility as a whistleblower and activism portal.

Dont you think its a great time to go fuck off back to Reddit? I mean your professional life, your raison d'etre is redditization of the internet. And yet after youre done with a long day making things worse for everyone you come here, to post your thoughts at the people who you just finished undermining. It's a bright sunny day, and a great time for you to go fuck yourself.

 

[RoachCult]

@Sneed S. McSneedensen how does it feel being MR.RIGHT himself

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

@Sneed S. McSneedensen how does it feel being MR.RIGHT himself

 

[Quintus]

I quite enjoyed your article Josh! As usual I will miss the Livestream, but I hope you have a nice day .

 

[Where There's Smoke]

What I'm saying is that you can't win the proverbial throne without using effective tactics and making alliances with people you hate. Those people you hate can be dealt with later, as there are more pressing matters. Those pressing matters being a large collection of powerful and wealthy people with institutional power coordinating to take away every ounce of freedom you have, and to see your children castrated or groomed into prostitution. What happens if the left wins is actually an unimaginable horror, and it goes way beyond just simply not being able to use the internet. If a united right crushes them and becomes the dominant force in society, the fracturing can return, the right can start fighting among themselves again, and those gross degenerates won't be able to get what they want.

It's very clearly not a popular opinion. But the dying with your principles thing is a ship that needs abandoning. We're literally about a decade away from living in the equivalent of an episode of Black Mirror. That is assuming this all continues the way it's going uninterrupted. The only other way out is for us to lose WWIII. But anyway. That's my two cents. I don't have anything else to say.

While I agree with the premise that Josh would have more influence if he decided to befriend certain infamous people on the Right in order to monkey branch his way to higher and higher levels, but you're an honest to god retard if you believe a foundation built on the ideals of those grifters won't lead to another slightly different Black Mirror episode. Instead of having children butchered by the medical industry we switch to the Nick Fuentes approach with child brides because women are just meant to be breeding cattle and the Right demands higher birthrates.