Generation Z, "Ironic" Degeneracy, Sadism, and Discord - Not a fun thread

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There was me, that is Alex, and my three discord pals, that is Matt, Goth, and Bust, and we sat in the #general trying to make up our minds what to raid this evening. The Korova server admins sold Antimatter plus: 'P and baby monkey torture in one bait and switch video, which is what we were spamming. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old epic win.
Epic ween my droogs, epic ween.

On a side note I've seen what started off as a small /k/ related server devolve into a harassment ring full of incels and furries in the span of 2 years. Their idea of a good time went from gaming together and organizing range meets to running gayops on mentally ill people with all the a-logging you'd expect from a tryhard zoomer who wants to be the next Isabella Janke. All the sane people leaving and the degenerates taking over should've been the biggest red flag.
 
One thing that's really fucking weird about these discord trolling circles is how their "trolling" is almost always sexual in nature, and is basically exclusively against clinically disabled people and autistic children.
One of these targets was an 11 year old autistic Mario fanboy who got spammed snuff and scat porn on all of their socials and the people responsible (irrelevant uttp/foodist splinter group) even got the cops sent to his house.
Not even going to go into the practice they had of making disabled people perform CBT on themselves on camera to jack off to it.
The entire gayop on this kid was by far the most vile thing I had ever witnessed online by far. Fuckers were fighting over who got to ERP with him, presumably to sextort more snuff CP.
Not to boast about powerlevels but I remember when it was small frimge groups that used to make ironic jokes of pedophillia. I was in one such group in 2021 before it collapsed. In my case, I had nothing to do during the pandemic and I was already bullying Gacha kids and trannies
We might be remembering the same group if it stopped being public a couple years ago. I got sent screenshots in 2023 relating to the contents of textwall above, and it seems to mostly been the same people, just severely morally degenerated after years of doing this stupid faggot shit 24/7.
I might still have some of these screenshots on file but anything you know about UTTP adjacent circles would be helpful too.
 
I used to be in Discord servers for several online communities, and in the smaller "private servers", where they online invite their friends or their friends' friends, they post a fuck ton of gore and porn all the time. I'm aware of this one community that's basically infamous in some of the communities I've used to be in because they would post gore in a public server they own, constantly. These people also raided some guy's server and spammed a ton of gore and extorted him for his... robux?
Thank god I was never in those specific servers. I still haven't seen genuine gore and I never plan to. *sigh*
 
One thing that's really fucking weird about these discord trolling circles is how their "trolling" is almost always sexual in nature, and is basically exclusively against clinically disabled people and autistic children.
One of these targets was an 11 year old autistic Mario fanboy who got spammed snuff and scat porn on all of their socials and the people responsible (irrelevant uttp/foodist splinter group) even got the cops sent to his house.
Not even going to go into the practice they had of making disabled people perform CBT on themselves on camera to jack off to it.
The entire gayop on this kid was by far the most vile thing I had ever witnessed online by far. Fuckers were fighting over who got to ERP with him, presumably to sextort more snuff CP.

We might be remembering the same group if it stopped being public a couple years ago. I got sent screenshots in 2023 relating to the contents of textwall above, and it seems to mostly been the same people, just severely morally degenerated after years of doing this stupid faggot shit 24/7.
I might still have some of these screenshots on file but anything you know about UTTP adjacent circles would be helpful too.

Their kind of trolling is not even about laughing at retards as you mentioned its aimed at kids(who should not be online) with innocent interests like Mario, its an outlet for hostility for defeated people and losers

Its one thing to alog fully grown adults, it takes a certain degree of societal dreg to send scat porn to a child
 
Their kind of trolling is not even about laughing at retards as you mentioned its aimed at kids(who should not be online) with innocent interests like Mario, its an outlet for hostility for defeated people and losers

Its one thing to alog fully grown adults, it takes a certain degree of societal dreg to send scat porn to a child
There's literally no defense for this at all. You literally cannot trollshield when you're sending a literal child stuff like that.
 
no they're so edgy they post cp to shock you
Remember when Bardfinn and the rest of Against Hate Subreddits would flood subreddits like r/cringe anarchy and r/milliondollarextreme with CSAM in order to get them banned and then tried to justify it because they were heckin “hateful” and filled with “neo-nazi death squads”

TT Fucking D
 
It might just be a case of me being ignorant, but a lot of the younger side of generation Z seems to lack interests and hobbies that aren't drug abuse or clout chasing or something extreme and dangerous

I can only speculate that this is from growing up in online skinner boxes and a constant need for dopamine reinforcement

I know tons of guys older than me in their 30s into cars and rock music or generally stuff that hurts nobody but Gen Z only is into things when they can get clout for it online or get an extreme hit of dopamine from it

I am a big metalhead and almost nobody from the generation below me plays guitar for the love of the hobby, they do it for clout on social media which is really fucking gay imo.
 
I've been thinking about this phenomenon and everything tangential to it for a while now. Sorry if I'm just repeating someone else in this thread, but I think all of this stems from two factors;
  • it is really easy to develop functionally private echo chambers on the internet. if you are alienated or otherwise displeased with that community, it is incredibly easy to either leave the community or, especially nowadays, where you can just make one yourself with ease. And despite the internet being a public space, since there is just so much space on the internet, you're able to create large communities without having to butt heads or even acknowledge people you don't like. This is what I mean when I say "functionally private," The door is wide open in all of these communities, but what does it matter when no one bothers to enter or even look in anyways?
  • the modern internet is really good at promoting instant, positive feedback with little care for any of the potential consequences in the long term. I'm not just talking about the algorithms companies like Reddit or xitter put in place. They are a apart of a problem for a whole separate list of reasons, but, as an example, nothing is preventing a mindless Coomer or sociopath that is reading this from tabbing out and going onto the Porn/gore/CP site of their liking, regardless of the negative consequences that could come from consuming that type of media.
All of these specific groups that fester degeneracy and exploitative behavior are just symptoms of this if you ask me. Whether it be the boy kisser groups, the foodists, or people like Goonclown or whatever, I think it's just two sides of the same problem.
I saw this one short film that depicted the future as people getting put into small cubes and being constantly fed some euphoric drug. I think today is functionally similar to that, except instead of neatly arranged cubes, it's your uncleaned bedroom, or it's the goon cave you set up in your Airbnb... or your bedroom, and instead of some hypothetical medicine, it's the internet and whatever degeneracy you willingly partake in, whether you're a Gooner frying your dopamine receptors, or a sociopath and their buddies forcing a streamer to eat their own shit for duh epic ween, or everything else in-between. Whatever it looks like, it's all fundamentally the same: a way to indulge in degenerate compulsions with little to no external pushback.

and that's not to say that all of this in a vacuum is comparable to drugs like heroin in terms of addictiveness and destructiveness, but you seriously cannot convince me that anything good comes from exposing kids to this stuff at such a critical stage of human development, or that all of the bad that comes from this isn't exaggerated due to exposing them to this shit at such a young age.

All of this is speculation, but it's the best answer I've come up with that could serve as a universal explanation for why groups & individuals like these develop and gain as much traction as they do.

as for solving it? I don't know. There's no catch-all solution to this. When it comes to CSAM and zoosadism distribution, I forget where, but I remember someone suggesting an agency sorta like the DEA that dedicates resources specifically to combating this issue, and have them serve as the primary coordinators between local, state and federal officials instead of just letting them do their own thing near-independent of each other, I haven't thought this one out though.

as for stopping children from accessing this stuff, perhaps a law would work, but frankly, I do not trust the government to not fuck it up from incompetence or use it as a tool to gain more power over Citizens. But beyond that? I think the best thing to do is to just tell people about this shit. Get the word out, bring attention to this type of shit, Maybe if more people better understood the problem there'd be a larger cultural push to keep children off the internet, and stop others from doing this type of behavior, But what do I know.
 
I forget where, but I remember someone suggesting an agency sorta like the DEA that dedicates resources specifically to combating this issue, and have them serve as the primary coordinators between local, state and federal officials instead of just letting them do their own thing near-independent of each other, I haven't thought this one out though.
IIRC something like 30% of the FBI's resources goes towards combating CSAM and such.

The main problem to me is how much of it is this hurtcore extreme ""ironic"" shit v.s. mentally ill teens or even relatively normal teens who found themselves gotten into the whole thing. Obviously anyone spreading CSAM and zoophilia and animal torture should be found and locked up, but should a lonely 18 year old who e-dates/sexts a lonely 16 year old on discord go to jail for 40 years on CP charges? What about the 16 year old who sent the stuff? Because the way current laws are written, both would be guilty of federal child porn charges to the same extent as a 40yo who grooms a 13yo.
The extreme stuff is the absolute bottom of the barrel but I almost guarantee that there are tens of thousands if not millions of minors on discord spreading nudes of themselves. I read somewhere that 15-50% of teens send sexts (and if discord has about 20 175 million monthly active users and 20% are minors [probably more than that], there's probably over a million minors doing sexually explicit things on the platform), and a hardcore initiative to combat this stuff would probably affect relatively innocent teens more than these hardcore pedophiles/zoophiles who probably have much better opsec than your average lonely zoomer.

I'm pretty hesitant to say that a large scale law enforcement crackdown would help. IMO it would just drive these people to encrypted platforms and affect innocents in the same way any other mass surveillance/digital crackdown does. It needs to be fixed on a societal level with education and monitoring of children by parents. I assume alot of the perpetrators of this stuff were previously victims.

This thread showcases the worst of the worst and the hurtcore, sextortion, etc. is a huge problem. But the general problems with Zoomers and sexuality and discord go way deeper and aren't as obvious as the niggers displayed in this thread make it.
 
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I find it insane how widespread the whole Foodistzen/technoblade crap was back in 2022, and now these same groups are trying to repeat the same stunt with the UTTP.
I honestly find it crazy how well the uttp/foodists have been able to stay out of the public eye despite their nature, It's not even like they're really trying to. From what I've read up on, the people I've seen have either just written them off as bots or are only focused on the Foodistzen youtube channel itself. Maybe I've just had bad luck, but with the shit they've pulled, you'd think they'd get more attention & put more scrutiny by mainstream YouTubers, at least.
 
as for stopping children from accessing this stuff, perhaps a law would work, but frankly, I do not trust the government to not fuck it up from incompetence or use it as a tool to gain more power over Citizens. But beyond that? I think the best thing to do is to just tell people about this shit. Get the word out, bring attention to this type of shit, Maybe if more people better understood the problem there'd be a larger cultural push to keep children off the internet, and stop others from doing this type of behavior, But what do I know.
Darknet dairies has an episode on a young guy being exposed to this stuff through Kik. Kik was a failing messenger service picked up by a third party to run it as bare bones as possible while covered in advertisements. The lack of moderation has made it a haven for sexual deviants and since it's on the app store kids can get access to it and use it to look for porn. They end up going down the rabbit hole where they trade porn with others collectors and the highest value images and videos are CP (Why did people start calling it CSAM instead of CP?). He wised up and got out before he got in deep trouble but his story is worth hearing and Kik should be investigated by people looking into Zoomer degenerates. Kik is so bad for this stuff even 4chan banned mentioning it to stop being a gate way into seedy porn.
Obviously anyone spreading CSAM and zoophilia and animal torture should be found and locked up, but should a lonely 18 year old who e-dates/sexts a lonely 16 year old on discord go to jail for 40 years on CP charges? What about the 16 year old who sent the stuff? Because the way current laws are written, both would be guilty of federal child porn charges to the same extent as a 40yo who grooms a 13yo.
No one has any idea what to do with teenagers and smart phones. Kids are going to send each other illegal pictures because they have the technology and parents can't monitor them all day long. You can make sure your daughter keeps her door open but you can't expect her to do the same with the bathroom so her boyfriend might be getting nudes. The whole area needs some serious discussion and laws to be reformed since most of them come from pre-smart phone era technology. I don't know what you can do to stop these teenagers from sending nudes and I don't know if making them all sex offenders for being stupid with a camera is the way to go. It's going to happen so how do you minimize the damage? Even with the best education and great parenting teenagers do stupid things and we have to find ways that it doesn't ruin their lives for acting like teenagers do with each other while making sure predators and sickos are given the rope.
 
Or they can just not try and hump on an underaged person.
Sure but that's never gonna happen. 2-3 year age gaps are considered pretty normal among teens and they'll always be sexual. Obviously people should be taught that once you are 18 under 18 people are off limits but no matter how much you tell them that it'll never stop it.
The whole area needs some serious discussion and laws to be reformed since most of them come from pre-smart phone era technology. I don't know what you can do to stop these teenagers from sending nudes and I don't know if making them all sex offenders for being stupid with a camera is the way to go.
It 100% needs reform but the optics are so bad that no politician wants to touch it. Who wants to be the one who "reduced consequences for child pornagraphy charges", even if it was reduced just for teens with mitigating factors. There is literally no way to stop teenagers from being horny and with the current technology no way to stop them from sending nudes. The only thing that can be done is make it so doing so doesn't ruin the rest of their lives and get them thrown in federal prison for 15 years.

Now, the absolute degeneracy that the discord hurtcore groups get into definitely needs to be investigated and prosecuted. But I fear if there were a hardcore crackdown on it it would not hit the right targets. Or i should say, i don't trust that the government could do it.
 
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It 100% needs reform but the optics are so bad that no politician wants to touch it. Who wants to be the one who "reduced consequences for child pornagraphy charges", even if it was reduced just for teens with mitigating factors. There is literally no way to stop teenagers from being horny and with the current technology no way to stop them from sending nudes. The only thing that can be done is make it so doing so doesn't ruin the rest of their lives and get them thrown in federal prison for 15 years.

Now, the absolute degeneracy that the discord hurtcore groups get into definitely needs to be investigated and prosecuted. But I fear if there were a hardcore crackdown on it it would not hit the right targets. Or i should say, i don't trust that the government could do it.
There is some discussion of it here but it's the complete wrong direction. Mainstream media keeps promoting single mothers who's kids get "on the darknet" (hurtcore groups maybe?) and send nudes to Nigerian princes. Who then blackmail them into making more extreme videos and getting money from them. There is a discussion about teenagers sending nudes but it's always in the context of a group exploiting them. The core education is still missing and I'm guessing sex ed in general is now mostly telling you to suck dick rather than teaching you to navigate the sexual side of life safely. It takes a complete reform but it's not happening when 'can I cut my son's dick off?' is only just becoming controversial and getting reversed. If I put on my tinfoil hat, these laws staying as they are is also very useful for punishing people. Plant something nasty and the laws already there to throw the book at them. We all joke about it, but there's truth in that joke.
 
I think a lot of this can be stopped or at least mitigated if parents took the time to talk to their kids about the risks inherent to the internet and technology regarding strangers trying to groom them, learned technical ways of monitoring what their kids are doing on their phones to make sure they are safe and just not giving them smartphones or iPads to shut them up when they are below the age of 16. So much of this is caused by parents being retarded and ignorant about shit we knew back in the day like stranger danger or not putting personal info online and also not knowing how to use the tech they buy themselves. This isn't even some imagined risk: a lot of bad things can happen when your kid has access to a phone or computer that you don't know how to navigate properly yourself and can allow strangers to talk and groom your kids into weird fetishes.

I'm not sure if i'd say i hate all of 4chan type culture, but i definitely do the /r9k/, /b/, and even to an extent /v/ and /pol/ culture. Might have something to do with a lot of stuff being forced by Discord spammers.
Those 4chan boards changed for the worst after Goobergrapes. Something about the eternal culture war and just general nihilism of the people that use it in addition to the constant flux of newfags (young and old) to these boards probably had a lot to do with why so many zoomers and Gen alpha are fucked in the head. Compared to boards like /a/,/diy/,/vr/ or /lit/ (which are full of resident crazies but the type that shitpost constantly rather than try and groom people into degenerate fetishes), they are the reason why the site has such a negative reputation.
 
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