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[quaawaa]

Speaking of Chinese EVs, BYD's hypercar, the YangWang U9:

is barely faster around the Shanghai International Circuit than this:

the Audi RS Q8 SUV.

The Audi has 590 hp, the BYD has 1287 hp.


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They're decades behind the Europeans, Japanese, and Americans when it comes to driving dynamics.

The interior quality of Chinese EVs is also terrible, most of them look like a cheap knockoff of a Tesla both because the Chinese market (and the author of the article) love giant screens and because they're all reverse-engineered Teslas thanks to Elon's dumbass decision to set up a factory there.

Some have really giant screens:

Everyone knows that the larger the screen, the nicer the car.

 

[DavidS877]

Some have really giant screens:
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Everyone knows that the larger the screen, the nicer the car.

Not always true, sometimes you just need more screens.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Also, his Reddit account seems to be back and his long-dormant subreddit has now been set to private:

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Wondering if he'll ever talk about what's going on here.

He's made vague "da trolls" type comments before but he'll never talk. He's just like every cathedral-type personality, furious that there's a place where the narrative cannot be controlled, but can't admit it. On a side note, if this thread has been known to certain /r/fuckcars members, why aren't they screencapping posts for "look at this carbrain" type posts like with other social media sites?

Curious.

 

[Internet Wizard]

I won't say much since this isn't a debate post, but I genuinely despise how these "pop planner" types (NJB being the flagship among them) constantly spam their opinions on the internet since they're not taken seriously anywhere in real life (I won't explain for personal reasons, but I know this off of firsthand experience)
They're fundamentally not planners, they often have zero to no actual experience in the field or in actual planning/arch/etc. education. They spew their bs on YT/Reddit purely off of vibes, feelings they get from living where they do (NJB bragging abt the Netherlands is a good example) and essentially just vlogging but with a preachier element. They have no understanding of social, economic and political reasons as to why cities are the way they are, and instead are so busy circlejerking about "muh design" that they can't be bothered to learn or pretend to care.

To them, there are no valid reasons as to why one would ever drive a car or own a house. Not the security. Not the directness. Not the comfort. Not pride of ownership.

Because at the core of it, the audience for this stuff isn't people interested in the subject at hand - it's well-to-do urbanites themselves, who constantly brag about how great urban living is and spit on anyone that doesn't like Manhattan. They cry about cars because they personally have no need for them, and therefore personally feel like no one else should have a need for them. Explaining why they so often collude with grifttubers, who share in the act of nonstop moral handwringing (just as breadtube will never actually go outside to help their communities, urbanists will never go outside to propose policy changes in their towns)
By professing to be knowledgeable on an overall niche topic, they trick people into thinking they're smarter than they really are. Anyone with any experience in anything close to this stuff will never take them seriously, because they see through the surface-level feelings centered (and therefore basically worthless) BS.

 

[Swiss46]

Not always true, sometimes you just need more screens.
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The Virgin dash vs the Chad battle station

 

[anklyscr]

the Audi RS Q8 SUV.

The Audi has 590 hp, the BYD has 1287 hp.

Something fucky is going on there. I don't think I could fuck the suspension settings up enough so that the car with less than half the hp [and a similar weight] is faster.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Electric Vehicle (American) = soyjak_cringe.jpg
Electric Vehicle (Chinese) = soyjak_pog.jpg

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I'm sure someone who understands the subject of EVs better than me can break this article from this site I've never heard of down, but there is absolutely no fucking way in the world America will be a country of Chinese cars. China's image has been "cooked" for decades, their country has become fully synonymous with cheap shit that breaks. It's funny to see Jason cutting off his nose (offering the faintest hint of praise to cars) to spite his face (his undying hatred for America).

Personally the thing that sticks out to me is the bizarre tangent where the article's author proclaims TikTok as the superior social media company.

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Eric Striker of former TRS Z tier fame (before the NJP falling out) had almost the word to word take of Jason. Where Striker wants to eventually buy a little Chinese EV.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Electric Vehicle (American) = soyjak_cringe.jpg
Electric Vehicle (Chinese) = soyjak_pog.jpg

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I'm sure someone who understands the subject of EVs better than me can break this article from this site I've never heard of down, but there is absolutely no fucking way in the world America will be a country of Chinese cars. China's image has been "cooked" for decades, their country has become fully synonymous with cheap shit that breaks. It's funny to see Jason cutting off his nose (offering the faintest hint of praise to cars) to spite his face (his undying hatred for America).

Personally the thing that sticks out to me is the bizarre tangent where the article's author proclaims TikTok as the superior social media company.

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The article is absolutely worthless. A literal niggerfaggot (the article is peppered with embeds of his own social media posts with almost no engagement, and he's using usernames that are variations of "Gaytona USA") goes to China and is completely enthralled by shiny, colorful giant screens like a toddler. He spends zero characters talking about anything important, like range, or charging times, or driving dynamics, or towing capacity, and instead talks about how his back was sweaty when he got out of the airport. And about giant screens, and the superiority of TikTok, as you mentioned. I award him no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.

 

[Bonesjones]

Yeah, funny you should mention "cooked", you sometimes hear about Tesla batteries exploding, the last thing I want is a Chinese car made of explodium that will be an electric fire that firefighters can't easily put out, nor rescue me because the "jaws of life" are built for standard-weight, standard-frame cars.

How many people have their house burn down from their shitty EV bikes or hover board batteries catching on fire? I remember it being a semi regular thing a few years ago. I know airlines wouldn't let people take them on board.

Its funny how everyone knows about keeping combustibles outside, but who does the same for lithium ion batteries over a certain size?

 

[Thiletonomics]

How many people have their house burn down from their shitty EV bikes or hover board batteries catching on fire? I remember it being a semi regular thing a few years ago. I know airlines wouldn't let people take them on board.

Its funny how everyone knows about keeping combustibles outside, but who does the same for lithium ion batteries over a certain size?

Speaking of items not being allowed on flights, it also reminded me of when Samsung Galaxy Note 7 batteries started catching fire, and airlines had to ban people from bringing that model of phone onto flights. And when Chevrolet Bolt had their EV battery fire fiasco, some parking lots even banned Bolts from parking in them.

 

[Yamamura]

Gee, I never thought I'd see the day Jason becomes a CCP shill. Wait no, actually I could see that.

As for Jason, the whole idea of hating cars involves "muh transit alternatives" and "muh streets for kids", and electric cars don't really do a lot in those instances.

I feel like first and foremost a core aspect of Jason's personality before urbanism is being a contrarian. North America bad! Other countries good.

I'm sure someone who understands the subject of EVs better than me can break this article from this site I've never heard of down, but there is absolutely no fucking way in the world America will be a country of Chinese cars. China's image has been "cooked" for decades, their country has become fully synonymous with cheap shit that breaks. It's funny to see Jason cutting off his nose (offering the faintest hint of praise to cars) to spite his face (his undying hatred for America).

Now I don't know much about Chinese cars, but I do know something about their Korean brethren. Hyundai and KIA are notorious for cutting corners in their cars in terms of quality. They omitted putting immobilizers in their American cars, unlike their Canadian counterparts to save money, only because Canada has a law requiring them while the US doesn't. This is just one example, I've heard people who supply parts for Hyundai and KIA just say the parts themselves are just shoddily made.

Now you might say to yourself these are two different countries, and yes you are correct. However I ask you how is a car brand that prides itself on being even cheaper going to some how cut LESS corners than Hyundai?

Something tells me this sudden shillery for Chinese cars is because they're having a hell of a time off loading them from over production. Currently there are fields of electric cars unsold because of over production and no surprise the wumaos are coming out in droves to shill with the classic, "oh you're just afraid of competition", "you can't handle that Chinese cars are better". They know these cars won't pass US regulations that other companies have to pass like Honda or Mercedes.

Speaking of Chinese EVs, BYD's hypercar, the YangWang U9:

Yeah definitely not a McLaren clone.

Something fucky is going on there. I don't think I could fuck the suspension settings up enough so that the car with less than half the hp [and a similar weight] is faster.

I'm just going to throw a baseless speculation here. They're lying (or at least heavily exaggerating) the actual horsepower figures.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

There’s a massive coordinated push on these shitty chinesium POS’s and I can’t believe it’s organic. Money is flowing to bloggers for chinky chink purposes.

And you don’t have to go back many pages to find the “EVs don’t solve the fuckcars problems” and here they all are gobbling CCPenis.

Fucking lazy ass faggots.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I'm just going to throw a baseless speculation here. They're lying (or at least heavily exaggerating) the actual horsepower figures

Horsepower doesn't always translate to speed. What's the torque on this thing? Pulling power, as in, the ability to pull it's own weight? If the torque is shit, you could have a trillion Horsepower, it's not going to keep up and be as reactive as a ICE car with a modern 6 cylinder that's pulling as much as a old 8 cylinder.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Horsepower doesn't always translate to speed. What's the torque on this thing? Pulling power, as in, the ability to pull it's own weight? If the torque is shit, you could have a trillion Horsepower, it's not going to keep up and be as reactive as a ICE car with a modern 6 cylinder that's pulling as much as a old 8 cylinder.

Yeah a freight loco has a shit ton of torque and horsepower and ain’t going to corner very well at all lol. Horsepower is just one factor and people are well known to fudge the fuck out of it

 

[Thiletonomics]

Speaking of Chinese EVs, BYD's hypercar, the YangWang U9

That BYD car also reminds me of the Lykan HyperSport:

Yeah definitely not a McLaren clone.

And speaking of McLaren clones, the front end of the Xiaomi SU7 looks very suspiciously familiar:

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The article is absolutely worthless. A literal niggerfaggot (the article is peppered with embeds of his own social media posts with almost no engagement, and he's using usernames that are variations of "Gaytona USA") goes to China and is completely enthralled by shiny, colorful giant screens like a toddler. He spends zero characters talking about anything important, like range, or charging times, or driving dynamics, or towing capacity, and instead talks about how his back was sweaty when he got out of the airport. And about giant screens, and the superiority of TikTok, as you mentioned. I award him no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.

He also spends most of the article talking about how cheap Chinese cars are only for him at the end to barely hints on why that is.

Of course, there are plenty of concerns around China’s poor human rights track record and the dubious sourcing of some of its raw materials; both Chinese domestic and foreign brands are criticized for this.

And yet, those issues feel secondary. If China were to somehow rectify its production overcapacity issues, and acquiesce to every demand that Europe and the U.S. have of its EV sector, China would still have technologically advanced, well-made, interesting EVs. Arguably, it would still come out leaner and stronger.

If China can't play fast and loose with their production then they lose a lot of advantages over Western and other Eastern car companies.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Yeah a freight loco has a shit ton of torque and horsepower and ain’t going to corner very well at all lol. Horsepower is just one factor and people are well known to fudge the fuck out of it

A freight train is built to pull and cruise fast. It all depends on the engineering. There's also shit like gear ratios, transmissions, a ton of shit beyond Horsepower that takes the power of the engine and turns it into speed.

 

[quaawaa]

Personally the thing that sticks out to me is the bizarre tangent where the article's author proclaims TikTok as the superior social media company.

TikTok is a clone of Vine, an American social media app bought and shut down by Twitter. Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts have the exact same content as TikTok; there’s no moat.

The Chinese are super insecure that they haven't invented anything and are blown out of the water by countries with a fraction of their population and on-paper intelligence. They get really mad whenever someone calls them copycats. The surest way to tell if you're talking to a member of the 50 Cent Army is if they brag about any of the "Four New Inventions", which are the only inventions that the CCP could find that China "invented" since the "Four Great Inventions" of Ancient China (compass, gunpowder, papermaking, and printing).

The "Four New Inventions" are High Speed Rail (invented in Germany, improved by the French, and perfected by the Japanese), Mobile Payments/5G (both mobile payments (though Wiki says Finland) and 4G (5G is an "improved" version) were invented in Japan), e-commerce (British invention), and bike-sharing (unsurprisingly invented by the Dutch). Electric vehicles are the fifth "new invention" of China despite, once again, not being invented by the Chinese (Tesla, an American company, created the modern EV). I've also seen CCP shills bragging about Chinese's leadership in consumer drones as if having a defense contractor sell RC helicopters (which have existed for over half a century) below cost is in any way innovative.

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong:


Even a reddit deboonker can't come up with anything that they've invented since ancient times:

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or Wikipedia:

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The stuff in the wiki list is also easily debunked: passenger drones are just helicopters and e-cigarettes were invented in 1963 by an American according to the linked article. Insulin was first extracted by a Canadian in the 1920s. The stem cell one admits that it was done by American scientists (and it sounds like a random paper anyways), and for the Down-syndrome test, Hong Kong is not mainland China. I'm also not sure if that test is actually used or is just another random paper. Also, the equivalent American article doesn't list every single drug Big Pharma has ever invented because the US has plenty of more significant inventions to list.

 

[WelperHelper99]

TikTok is a clone of Vine, an American social media app bought and shut down by Twitter. Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts have the exact same stuff as TikTok; there’s no moat.

The Chinese are super insecure that they haven't invented anything and are blown out of the water by countries with a fraction of their population and on-paper intelligence. They get really mad whenever someone calls them copycats. The surest way to tell if you're talking to a member of the 50 Cent Army is if they brag about the "Four New Inventions", which is are the only inventions that the CCP could find that China "invented" since the "Four Great Inventions" of Ancient China (compass, gunpowder, papermaking, and printing).

The "Four New Inventions" are High Speed Rail (invented in Germany, improved by the French, and perfected by the Japanese), Mobile Payments/5G (both mobile payments and 4G (5G is an "improved" version) were invented in Japan) e-commerce (American invention), and bike-sharing (unsurprisingly invented by the Dutch) then they are highly likely to be a Chinese shill. Electric vehicles are the fifth "new invention" of China despite, once again, not being invented by the Chinese (Tesla, an American company, created the modern EV). I've also seen CCP shills bragging about Chinese's leadership in consumer drones as if having a defense contractor sell RC helicopters (which have existed for over half a century) below cost is in any way innovative.

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong:

We have a Wumao (no im not summoning him, look if you want) in the LazerPig thread. It's like you say. Always got to be sucking dick over "new" achievements and war machines that the west and even Russia has achieved for the better part of a century. And people wonder why I hate China.

And yeah the drones lol. You realize the west too can build a RC quad copter, it'll just cost more because the workers aren't slaves.

 

[Vindeo]

My gf and I are pretty fortunate to have about ten acres to plop a double wide on in rural america. We hate living in the suburb. Our apartment is small, rent is okay, but it doesn't really align with the SQFT we're getting on our apartment (426 sqft).

I can't imagine living in a dense city, I've been around. Been to Dam, Manchester, Chisanau. Dam is an impressive city. I loved it. Yeah it's walkable. I walked from the train station to my hotel. It was a long walk. I can't read or speak Dutch. I had a hard time navigating even out of the train station. I had to watch and wait for someone to see how they got the little doors to open bc everyone was scanning their phones and all I had was a ticket. (Turns out the ticket opens the gate).

Now, it's important to clarify, this isn't a critique of cities or public transportation. That was the first time I've ever been on any time of public transportation or a train for that matter. It was pretty cool. The county I'm from has 35k people in it. The town I grew up in has about 750 people.

I suppose I get their critiques of public transportation and "straods" since they deal with it alot. I often think to myself when I'm driving "it's really fascinating that there aren't more car accidents" think about how close you are to the other car in the oncoming lane.

I don't really know why they are so adamant about banning cars, or living in cities in general. It's a headache, just driving around in Boston for me was enough to make me never want to go there again.

Not once have I ever thought to myself that I shouldn't pay taxes even tho it subsidizes things in cities that I'll never use.

Alarming if these people ever got into in position of power.

They are the types to call people like me white trash, racist, etc bc I am gonna be living in rural america.

But I'll take that doublewide on ten acres and build my future wife a gazebo down by the creek.

Someone was murderer outside our apartment two weeks ago. Drive by shooting, and this was just in the suburb.