Steve Quest (p/k/a Montagraph) vs. Nicholas Robert Rekieta & Rekieta Law, LLC (2023)

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Sadly we may never know how much money Rekieta burned on this Jurisdiction fight. Not unless he drunkenly spills the beans himself.

It certainly was not a small number though.

I’m guessing high five figures to low six figures. Money that would be better spent on a college fund, tools for an apprenticeship, private tutors, and other investments for your keeeeds, mang.

Nick is worse than a Baby Boomer spending cash on a cruise or vacation as they sell off what they inherited while whining how ungrateful their children are.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Not unless he drunkenly spills the beans himself.

So you're saying we'll probably know by Friday at the latest given the usual state of his streams

I’m guessing high five figures to low six figures. Money that would be better spent on a college fund, tools for an apprenticeship, private tutors, and other investments for your keeeeds, mang.

Pretty sure Nick's said his kids all want to be streamers, so no need for investment, they can have his setup when he inevitably drinks himself to death.

 

[Strix454]

whoops this isn't the lolcow thread, uh, on topic of the lawsuit, if Nick thinks he has such an airtight case then why on earth is it worth it to try to chase weird technicalities to get it thrown out?

Nick's thought processes are those of a drunken crackhead. When the case started, Nick thought he was going to be seen as a hero saving the internet from a boomer conspiracy theory guy. Nick had this theory that if he got a massive anti-SLAPP judgement against Montagraph that Montagraph couldn't pay, that he would be able to financially supervise Monty through the courts forever. Thus the internet would be saved and Nick would get lots of popular content.

There were a few problems with Nick's idea:

1) Minnesota had no anti-SLAPP law.
2) Minnesota courts had found that anti-SLAPP laws were unconstitutional in the state.
3) Because Nick had committed defamation per se against Monty, there was almost no chance of the case getting thrown out via anti-SLAPP.

Nick's response was to hire the most expensive attorney he could find and try to force an anti-SLAPP decision anyway. The district court judge rejected Nick's ideas. Now the court of appeals has rejected Nick's ideas.

 

[Owlbear]

The whole course of this lawsuit has convinced me that Rekieta believed he could win this lawsuit by running Monty out of money. He hired Randazza to try to find weird and convoluted ways to run up the bill on Monty. In the course of all that, we learned that Schneider likely took this on contingency because he doesn't like Rekieta, and Montagraph has enough people who want him to win to fund the arguments of an appellate lawyer. Nick thought this would be a nuisance suit that was over quickly.

 

[Terrifik]

The whole course of this lawsuit has convinced me that Rekieta believed he could win this lawsuit by running Monty out of money. He hired Randazza to try to find weird and convoluted ways to run up the bill on Monty. In the course of all that, we learned that Schneider likely took this on contingency because he doesn't like Rekieta, and Montagraph has enough people who want him to win to fund the arguments of an appellate lawyer. Nick thought this would be a nuisance suit that was over quickly.

it worked for Mark.Waid/mrzaid

 

[UncleTusky]

Sadly we may never know how much money Rekieta burned on this Jurisdiction fight. Not unless he drunkenly spills the beans himself.

It certainly was not a small number though.

We don't need an exact number to laugh at Nick's idiocy: Randazza cost him just under $100k (unclear if this includes the $40k retainer) in the ~six months from taking the case through Judge Fischer's denial of the motion to dismiss. Apart from the gratuitous references to shock sites and Kiwi Farms, the motion to dismiss and associated filings were fairly boilerplate. Since then Randazza has spent nearly twice as long working on a (from what this thread has told me, IANAL, plz no bully) more convoluted, technical argument to get the case dismissed on appeal. No way he hasn't cleared $150k for the appeal/$250k overall by now.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Nick's thought processes are those of a drunken crackhead. When the case started, Nick thought he was going to be seen as a hero saving the internet from a boomer conspiracy theory guy. Nick had this theory that if he got a massive anti-SLAPP judgement against Montagraph that Montagraph couldn't pay, that he would be able to financially supervise Monty through the courts forever. Thus the internet would be saved and Nick would get lots of popular content.

There were a few problems with Nick's idea:

1) Minnesota had no anti-SLAPP law.
2) Minnesota courts had found that anti-SLAPP laws were unconstitutional in the state.
3) Because Nick had committed defamation per se against Monty, there was almost no chance of the case getting thrown out via anti-SLAPP.

Nick's response was to hire the most expensive attorney he could find and try to force an anti-SLAPP decision anyway. The district court judge rejected Nick's ideas. Now the court of appeals has rejected Nick's ideas.

Proving once again that he has zero aptitude as a lawyer.

 

[AnOminous]

Nick's thought processes are those of a drunken crackhead. When the case started, Nick thought he was going to be seen as a hero saving the internet from a boomer conspiracy theory guy.

Ironically, and what may make this a semi-Pyrrhic $1 nominal damages type case, is that I think fewer people now believe that Monty is a pedo than did before, largely because many people just took those claims at face value. On actually looking at them, though, they're based on jack-shit or crazy troll logic.

Where he could get nailed even if he isn't found to have caused much in the way of damages, because he's a drooling lying wetbrain loser nobody believes about anything anyway, as well as a demonstrated pervert in his own right, the court may find his behavior reprehensible enough to justify fee-shifting as a punishment and make him pay Monty's lawyer.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Wouldn’t the main reason to spend so much on a sliver of a chance being that you’re completel Fucked if you don’t win? But would that imply that discovery is going to be life ruination damaging? I seriously don’t get it.

 

[Captain Manning]

The whole course of this lawsuit has convinced me that Rekieta believed he could win this lawsuit by running Monty out of money.

The thing is, Nick should have figured out a while back that wasn't going to work when it finally occurred to him that Schneider was probably working on contingency, or at least a deeply discounted rate. There's a clip where Nick calls Schneider an idiot for (allegedly) working on contingency. So him thinking he could win by outspending Monty is inconsistent with what he's said there.

Then the point should have been further driven home when Monty raised pretty much all the money he needed to fight the appeal. More than Nick did. At this point, with this case, Monty might actually be the far superior crowdfunder. This victory is only further gonna help him should he need to raise more, because it shows his argument and his lawyer have credibility. It's already better poised to go somewhere than a lot of lolsuits you see.

This is an instance where Nick coming from wealth might not save his ass, for once. The law and facts seem to be against him. It's a David vs Goliath thing where David is landing some solid hits. It's what the justice system should be, IMO. Law and facts. Not the size of one's bank account.

 

[Botchy Galoop]

These lyrics are strangely fitting.

 

[mindlessobserver]

This is an instance where Nick coming from wealth might not save his ass, for once. The law and facts seem to be against him. It's a David vs Goliath thing where David is landing some solid hits. It's what the justice system should be, IMO. Law and facts. Not the size of one's bank account.

I think it doesn't hurt that Rekieta is not what we would call a "pillar of the community". There has also been speculation Monty's lawyer has a personal ax to grind against Rekieta, hence agreeing to work on Contingency or at Cut Rate. Either because he just doesn't like how Nick besmirches the good name of the most venerable Minnesota Bar, or more likely that he was on the receiving end of a Rekieta "elevator talk" like the Judge for this case was

 

[Schpoots]

Should have followed your own rules, buddy! The best way to resume doin' business is to settle.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

I think it doesn't hurt that Rekieta is not what we would call a "pillar of the community". There has also been speculation Monty's lawyer has a personal ax to grind against Rekieta, hence agreeing to work on Contingency or at Cut Rate. Either because he just doesn't like how Nick besmirches the good name of the most venerable Minnesota Bar, or more likely that he was on the receiving end of a Rekieta "elevator talk" like the Judge for this case was

Just before his remarks about his client in Minnesota, Randazza mentions a hypothetical about someone with a lot more money going after you, or somebody with a committed lawyer goes after you. Makes you wonder what Nick told Randazza, and what is actually going on with Schneider.

 

[2005 Honda Civic]

Rekieta is just fucked here. I guess he can appeal to the state Supreme Court, but they probably won't hear the case. Even if they did, Rekieta probably won't win.

So now what? The cases proceeds and we go to discovery? Yikes lol. This case has already cost Rekieta 20-30K minimum. What was the GoFundMe for? 150K? 350K? I forget, but that amount was probably was Randazza quoted Nick for taking this case to trial. Even if Nick spends that much and wins, Montagraph is broke. Even if he won attorney's fees, he won't ever collect. Then if he loses, he'll be out all that money, and then will owe damages.

Most civil cases end in settlements, and I say this one will too. Kayla, for the good of the children, will hide the Balldo until Nick pays up. Nick is losing a six figure amount thank to his pride and ego, and the only question is how much that ego and pride is worth. 100K? 200K? 300K?

And it's not like the Rekieta family will end up homeless because of this. Nick has that trust fund to fall back on. No, all that money is just taking away some $ value of play time and toys/drugs/alcohol for Nick.

 

[SPCC Archivist]

 

[Henri Barbusse]

Nick's response was to hire the most expensive attorney he could find and try to force an anti-SLAPP decision anyway. The district court judge rejected Nick's ideas. Now the court of appeals has rejected Nick's ideas.

Looking at the court document, it seems to have almost worked, but the Colorado law isn't settled enough to use in other states. If the Colorado courts were in agreement on how to interpret the law, Nick and Randazza would have probably won.

 

[Captain Manning]

This case has already cost Rekieta 20-30K minimum.

WAY more than that. Randazza cited like 40k this time last year. If he isn't already six figures in the hole, I'll eat my hat.

What was the GoFundMe for? 150K? 350K?

Rekeita's GSG only made like 12K before he took it down. About 2k less than Monty's GFM.

Either Grandpa's legacy is paying for this crap (seems to be the most popular opinion), or the remnants of his YouTube profits from when people actually thought he had an entertaining show.

 

[Provably Wrong]

Too bad failing this argument means we can’t see him fail hard trying to argue the anti slappp motion. This case will only get proper tasty when we get to hear the parties frame the world’s most obvious case of defamation per se* and bicker about every word from about a dozen extended clips of the most lawsuitbaiting nonsense, trying to argue that the response being such a lawsuit is preposterous and so on.
Nothing changes with this except we don’t get to take a fun little detour. Still, the cope will be fun and little wins keep the momentum going

*ianal hopeful etc
Edited the second p on slapp and another for good measure

 

[Captain Manning]

This case will only get proper tasty when we get to hear the parties frame the world’s most obvious case of defamation per se* and bicker about every word from about a dozen extended clips of the most lawsuitbaiting nonsense, trying to argue that the response being such a lawsuit is preposterous and so on.

I desperately wanna know how the fuck Rekieta is gonna get around what he actually said.

Nick: I said Monty probably sucks little boy cock!
Schneider: No sir, you did not. You said he sucks little boy cock, and then you said that he should probably be shot. *plays video clip*
Nick: Well, I meant to say probably. You know what? Fuck you Schneider!!! I hate you! I'm Nick Rekieta, bitch!