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[quaawaa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLl3gMvduGs

holy fuck it's been 16 fucking years and they're bragging that they built a mockup out of drywall and showed off rendering for four stations what the actual fuuuuuuuck

They're bragging about this:



Sure looks like 16 years of work.

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In 50 years those “people of character” will still be stealing your tax money you mongoloid.

Urbanists also can't tell the difference between urban transit and long distance transit:

High density development around an HSR station is about as desirable or useful as high density development around an airport. No one rides HSR every day and no one is paying hundreds of dollars to commute somewhere, so there's no benefit to living right next to it. HSR stations therefore don't spur development like a highway or urban transit (though in the US, "Transit Oriented Development" is typically development that would have still been built without the transit).

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

HSR stations therefore don't spur development

They’re addicted to the “Japan pays for its trains with railway development near stations” which confounds transit and long distance transportation. People don’t commute via the Shitcockstain or whatever it is called. And people won’t commute via this thing (even if some people do commute by air in rare cases).

Places that have low speed and high speed rail next to each other confound the confusion even more.

 

[LaxerBRO]

They're bragging about this:
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Sure looks like 16 years of work.

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Urbanists also can't tell the difference between urban transit and long distance transit:
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High density development around an HSR station is about as desirable or useful as high density development around an airport. No one rides HSR every day and no one is paying hundreds of dollars to commute somewhere, so there's no benefit to living right next to it. HSR stations therefore don't spur development like a highway or urban transit (though in the US, "Transit Oriented Development" is typically development that would have still been built without the transit).

The proposition only allocated around $10 Billion:

The law allocates $9.95 billion to the California High-Speed Rail Authority. Of that sum, $9 billion will be used to construct the core segments of the rail line from San Francisco to the Los Angeles area and the rest will be spent on improvements to local railroad systems that will connect locations away from the high-speed rail mainline to the high-speed system.

But the project has now increased to $100 Billion

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The mock up of the train interior is a money laundering scheme. Whoever designed the interior is probably kicking some money back to the commission that selected it.

An all white interior is nearly impossible to maintain privately so when it comes to public transport it's irrational to choose such a color.

It's just designed to look luxurious to increase public support. Five to 10 years later, the CA High Speed Rail Authority will suddenly realize the flaws and request another $5,000,000 redesign and mock up.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Nah it’s all white because it’s literally drywall. I have no idea the point of it, it’s so batshit.

Some Mexican carpenters and $500 at home depot could do this.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLl3gMvduGs

holy fuck it's been 16 fucking years and they're bragging that they built a mockup out of drywall and showed off rendering for four stations what the actual fuuuuuuuck

California during the 1800s were laying track at world record pace though mountain ranges and hot deserts. California now can't even link two towns without it talking four decades and 2000% over budget.

View attachment 6008844High density development around an HSR station is about as desirable or useful as high density development around an airport. No one rides HSR every day and no one is paying hundreds of dollars to commute somewhere, so there's no benefit to living right next to it. HSR stations therefore don't spur development like a highway or urban transit (though in the US, "Transit Oriented Development" is typically development that would have still been built without the transit).

Spoken like someone who has never lived by train tracks. Also development around HSR stations is typically commercial or shit like hotels.

 

[Internet Wizard]

High density development around an HSR station is about as desirable or useful as high density development around an airport. No one rides HSR every day and no one is paying hundreds of dollars to commute somewhere, so there's no benefit to living right next to it. HSR stations therefore don't spur development like a highway or urban transit (though in the US, "Transit Oriented Development" is typically development that would have still been built without the transit).

You think these fuckers give a shit about zoning? Unless it has "mixed use" or "high density" in it they will literally not pay attention

 

[ComStar]

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In 50 years those “people of character” will still be stealing your tax money you mongoloid.

People of real character and fortitude would have built the fucking thing by now, nature be damned.

 

[Markass the Worst]

People of real character and fortitude would have built the fucking thing by now, nature be damned.

California is so plagued with people of retarded character that France's rail company SNCF pulled out of their HSR and found Morocco to be a better place. How shitty of a state do you have to be that Morocco is better than you?

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars blames their obesity on suburbs:


Buying in bulk makes you fat:

Today in opposite world:

I wonder how healthy he thinks ramen and katsu are:

Urbanists demonstrating their ability to have original thoughts:


No, it's because you're a tourist. Europeans don't walk as much because they have things to do besides wandering around town:

Having a pantry is bad. Living on top of a grocery store and restaurant is good:




The thing that they never seem to realize is in the suburbs, walking to the store may burn a "significant" amount of calories (though not really as walking a mile only burns ~100 calories), but if they moved to a "walkable" neighborhood where the store is physically closer, the amount of energy burned will be a rounding error.


I wouldn't call 57.7% of people "no one":

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There are some comments disagreeing with OP:




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[Slap47]

Urbanists are second-class citizens.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

California is so plagued with people of retarded character that France's rail company SNCF pulled out of their HSR and found Morocco to be a better place. How shitty of a state do you have to be that Morocco is better than you?

I think it should be clear to everyone that there is only one group in the world that is capable of building a California HSR, the Chinese. A blank check, no quality control, and a chance to flex on Americans in their home turf would see that HSR get finished in no time.

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Urbanists are second-class citizens.

76.6% of New Yorkers are unable to buy alcohol apparently.

 

[quaawaa]

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Urbanists are second-class citizens.

Manhattan "only" has a population of 1.6 million (something to keep in mind when they hate on the suburbs; a "city" that size can not support the number of businesses it has purely from residents alone). That's 0.48% of the US population, or in other words, a rounding error.

45.3% of New York households own a car:

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And the vast majority of people in the NYC metro area own a car:

And 91.7% of American households own a car:

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On a side note, I find it hilarious that car ownership has increased as cities have become more anti-car.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Urbanists are second-class citizens.

They used to argue that New York City had >50% households without a car, but I believe that's no longer true for the city as a whole (and if it is it's rapidly decreasing). The ID thing is real, though, because legally stores are supposed to card anyone who "looks under 40" to buy alcohol or tobacco. Are they saying that shops never card for that (and thus breaking the law), or that Manhattanites don't buy alcohol or tobacco?

 

[ComStar]

California is so plagued with people of retarded character that France's rail company SNCF pulled out of their HSR and found Morocco to be a better place. How shitty of a state do you have to be that Morocco is better than you?

I vaguely remember reading about this and laughing way too hard. I would have loved being a french-speaking fly on the wall when that decision was taken at SNCF.

Buying in bulk makes you fat:

That middle paragraph gives me a headache. Do these people seriously buy enough for just one or two plates?

What if they want seconds? Gym Of Life™ to the local bodega to buy one or two potatoes and 200 grams of whatever meat they're having?

 

[DavidS877]

That middle paragraph gives me a headache. Do these people seriously buy enough for just one or two plates?

The funny part is half the replies are talking about restaurants. You'd think they never shop or cook for themselves.
They don't.

 

[quaawaa]

The funny part is half the replies are talking about restaurants. You'd think they never shop or cook for themselves.
They don't.

The reason why the suburbs historically had fewer restaurants than the city is because people could cook at home and didn't need to go out for every meal. Nowadays the suburbs have every cuisine imaginable (because suburbanites have also lost their cooking abilities), so it's irrelevant. Cities also have a lot more restaurants than they used to; there's been a massive boom in the number of restaurants over the past 20 years, so many that I wonder how half of them can stay in business. If the urbanists are comparing their childhood memories of the suburbs to today's cities, that would explain why they think the suburbs have few dining options.

Also, the suburbs often have really good food. The best Asian food, for example, is typically found around suburban grocery stores like 99 Ranch Market or H-Mart, not in Chinatown (rich Asians with good taste don't live there). The best pastry shop I've ever found is in an older strip mall because that's all the extremely-skilled 20-something pastry chef could afford. The best sushi I've ever had is in an exurb that is almost in farm country because when the owner left the Michelin-starred restaurant he used to work at, he neither wanted to nor could afford to rent anywhere near his old employer. I've found that most of the food in trendy areas is average and expensive but looks really good on Instagram.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Urban cities are food deserts that cause all the niggers to be fat

Suburbs are food cornucopias that cause all the niggers to be fat

Excellent deduction, it is the fault of the car!

The restaurant thing is real because restaurants move where the customer base is, and urban locations aren't the only option. It is true that suburbs have tons of chain restaurants and shit, but they also have good options if you know the area. The urbanites never know the area because they're just visiting, but the people who live there will know where to go.

And sometimes that might even be into the city, who knows? They can do it because they have the Car.

 

[Bonesjones]

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Urbanists are second-class citizens.

In the run up to 2020 the democrats were complaining that Georgia voter registration laws were unfair because you have to not vote in 2 elections nor update your status after 10 years or you get removed as a valid voter. Except you have to specifically tell them not to update it when you renew your driver's license. It turned out after research 97% of all eligible voters were registered to vote, the rest being active duty military or in nursing homes.

The funny part is half the replies are talking about restaurants. You'd think they never shop or cook for themselves.
They don't.

Remember people will spend 30 dollars on doordashing a value meal from a fast food place several times a weeek and complain about how much their rent is.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

The reason why the suburbs historically had fewer restaurants than the city is because people could cook at home and didn't need to go out for every meal. Nowadays the suburbs have every cuisine imaginable (because suburbanites have also lost their cooking abilities), so it's irrelevant. Cities also have a lot more restaurants than they used to; there's been a massive boom in the number of restaurants over the past 20 years, so many that I wonder how half of them can stay in business. If the urbanists are comparing their childhood memories of the suburbs to today's cities, that would explain why they think the suburbs have few dining options.

Plus, they've bought into the "suburbs only have goyslop chains" meme. But if TGI Friday's, Red Lobster, and Fuddruckers have been closing stores does that mean suburbanites have better taste now?

No, because the meme was never true to begin with. Restaurants can have really good food, and really bad food, and where they end up is usually happenstance. Urbanists like to flex that the "best food" comes from the ratholes anyway (convenience stores, taco trucks, the ghetto), so it should be obvious that the "best food" could come from the strip malls of suburbia, too.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Urbanists like to flex that the "best food" comes from the ratholes anyway (convenience stores, taco trucks, the ghetto), so it should be obvious that the "best food" could come from the strip malls of suburbia, too.

The urbanists are just yuppies, but like a corrupted, classless version thereof.

The root problem underlying it all is they cannot accept that someone else might have different tastes than they do, and not enjoy the things they do.

Vast numbers of Americas actually do prefer McDonalds to a restaurant burger. You can argue about why that's the case and should it be the case, but it IS the case.