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You misunderstand me boyo.

If the US Army lost today an entire brigade of some ~15000 soldiers it would take years to replace it and it would drop a nuke in our political leadership. Vietnam forever changed the landscape about this. Vietnam "only" 50k soldiers died in a decade of conflict. Korea killed off ~40k in barely 3 years.

There's no pearl harbor event that would get the volunteer numbers up or make the draft feasible. The US populace is not primed for service like they were in previous generations. They have been primed to refuse service.

Nations willing to actually spill blood for victory are the only ones being serious.
Weren't they already primed for that in 2001 (28 years after the withdrawal from Vietnam in 1973) yet military recruitment increased for more than a decade after 9/11...

Is this the part where you change your argument and try to act like you didn't?
 
Thousands of fighters would last a few days tops trying to get through the first of the lower tier cities. The willingness to start the war might be there, but not to fight it themselves, and certainly not to live the consequences of it on the homefront.
I am merely saying if you tried to start a draft for Ukraine, it would likely face country wide revolt from everyone. Nobody is willing to die in Ukraine. For China? I don't think that would happen. I think people would get drafted and would fight against China and there would be no revolt. If you ask people, yeah, they'd say the Chinese government needs to fucking die.
 
Being ready for war only matters so much. War is something that gets worked out in practice, through adaptation and innovation.

The US has tons of problems in the officer corps, but American citizens are extremely capable at finding novel ways to achieve military objectives.
Caveat. If they are primed for service. This was well understood during the late 19th century and 20th century. Our education system and institutions were built around it. They've been built around clowns since the 60s.

Draft dodging will be considered the morally righteous action and being drafted will be considered evil baby killer shit. This was solidified when draft dodgers were all pardoned for criminally dodging the draft by fleeing the country.
 
Paging @Jet Fuel Johnny, someone needs a lesson.
I don't need lessons from the two main my uncle and I work for Nintendo guys that you lap up because it's what you want to hear and you don't know how to know better, but thanks
Caveat. If they are primed for service. This was well understood during the late 19th century and 20th century. Our education system and institutions were built around it. They've been built around clowns since the 60s.

Draft dodging will be considered the morally righteous action and being drafted will be considered evil baby killer shit. This was solidified when draft dodgers were all pardoned for criminally dodging the draft by fleeing the country.
Just like it was after September 11th, 4 decades after the 60s... oh wait it was the opposite
 
Weren't they already primed for that in 2001 (38 years after the withdrawal from Vietnam in 1973) yet military recruitment increased for more than a decade after 9/11...

Is this the part where you change your argument and try to act like you didn't?
I have legitimately no idea what you are trying to say.

Recruitment levels in 2001 were in fact 23 years ago. You are arguing that we can just turn on the faucet and replicate that today?
 
...Oh, duh. Right, I forgot about that.
There's also the horde of Chink sleeper cells in the country. Whatever they do when we do war with China, it will hilariously be an answer for the nigger and beaner problem because White people will get raided at night by the secret police because everybody forgets that gun stores have to keep records for the ATF.
 
I have legitimately no idea what you are trying to say.

Recruitment levels in 2001 were in fact 23 years ago. You are arguing that we can just turn on the faucet and replicate that today?
Of course you don't, you're a Poltard of limited capability

You keep saying things like the 60s, Vietnam, population conditioned for decades to this and that, blah blah blah... 2001 was also after the 1960s and Vietnam. Decades after. Shouldn't what you're saying would happen "now" also have happened then to some degree? Not as much. Some. But it didn't at all. So why should I think that if people got to experience a 9/11 habbening again, a large number of them wouldn't get all jingoistic n sheeeit?
 
Just like it was after September 11th, 4 decades after the 60s... oh wait it was the opposite
even if they executed another 9/11, the same group of people that jumped at the chance to get revenge on sand niggers after an attack on a major city in america are just going to laugh about it in current year
 
even if they executed another 9/11, the same group of people that jumped at the chance to get revenge on sand niggers after an attack on a major city in america are just going to laugh about it in current year
Correct. In 2001, it was an optimistic new millenium. We'd reached the End of History, and were preparing for it to be all sunshine and blowjobs from there on out.

9/11 shattered that optimism. It was a horrifying end to the Roaring 90's.
 
Of course you don't, you're a Poltard of limited capability

You keep saying things like the 60s, Vietnam, population conditioned for decades to this and that, blah blah blah... 2001 was also after the 1960s and Vietnam. Decades after. Shouldn't what you're saying would happen "now" also have happened then to some degree? Not as much. Some. But it didn't at all. So why should I think that if people got to experience a 9/11 habbening again, a large number of them wouldn't get all jingoistic n sheeeit?

You are shockingly delusional but okay. Don't gotta believe me. The USMIL has steadily decreased in size for decades. That hasn't changed. But yes, certain events caused marginally increased membership sure.

 
Correct. In 2001, it was an optimistic new millenium. We'd reached the End of History, and were preparing for it to be all sunshine and blowjobs from there on out.

9/11 shattered that optimism. It was a horrifying end to the Roaring 90's.

There s a meme that points out

Remember in the matrix when the machine said they kept us at the zenith of our civilization? seems they were right
 
Draft dodging will be considered the morally righteous action and being drafted will be considered evil baby killer shit. This was solidified when draft dodgers were all pardoned for criminally dodging the draft by fleeing the country.

If we go to war, it will be under a globohomo administration, and the institutions are fully primed now to say any opposition to what the institutions of the state do is "authoritarianism" or "fascism." If TPTB decide it's time to go to war with China, the propaganda calling Xi Jinping a "Nazi" will ramp up. Anyone opposing the war or the draft will be linked, however tenuously, to white nationalism, Russia, and the Nazis.

Maybe the Chinese are retarded.

They don't understand our politicians are dishonest - they don't stay bought. Or actually, what they don't truly understand is what politics is like in a country without a highly centralized, single-party system. Not every politician is equally bought by the same people.
 
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