Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

[quaawaa]

Lol at Japan milking the riders for 245% recovery ahaha eat it nips.

Farebox recovery only includes operating costs, so the Japanese are just collecting capital costs as well.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Farebox recovery only includes operating costs, so the Japanese are just collecting capital costs as well.

That's still a useful statistic to remember the next time some retard tries to bring up Japanese rail as a model of mass transit.

This feels like the set up to the Monorail episode of the Simpsons.

Brainlets often blame "Marge vs. the Monorail" on the lack of public transit acceptance, not realizing that the real lesson was that you should never use public transit as a flex.

 

[xXthrowawayaccountXx]

God, maybe this is derailment but this was perfect for this thread.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Nutcase on Nextdoor shaming everyone who is up in arms about a road that some stupid little interest group got their hands on to temporarily try out no cars. "It's not for you. Get over it " called people monsters, garbage, and also racist.

So I look her up on Facebook. Very white. Palestine flags galore. Also recently went to Amsterdam. One video she's clearly at a tourist location and there are a ton of bicycles rushing by - my idea of a crowded dangerous hell. She titled it "typical Dutch commute - beautiful." Then she had a photo by a bicycle parking lot. The way they were arranged was cringe if you care about your derailer.

I just can't with these people. They are so retarded AND irascible.

I recognize the apartment complex she's at and at that rent price along with international travel, she's not going to last long. Just pissed me off that these people get to vote in local politics when they never stick around to live with their choices.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

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Urbanists are second-class citizens.

They should be.

Nutcase on Nextdoor shaming everyone who is up in arms about a road that some stupid little interest group got their hands on to temporarily try out no cars. "It's not for you. Get over it " called people monsters, garbage, and also racist.

Does she have popular support? If not, you could probably report her, especially if you could bait her into saying something about Israel.

This won’t fix your problem, but it would be funny. These people hate being told no.

 

[quaawaa]

Nutcase on Nextdoor shaming everyone who is up in arms about a road that some stupid little interest group got their hands on to temporarily try out no cars. "It's not for you. Get over it " called people monsters, garbage, and also racist.

The best way to deal with them is to say "I'd love more safe bike routes. We should build a nice bike trail which is much safer than a bike lane". Then when she spergs out because you found a solution that doesn't take away car lanes (her real goal), she looks crazy to every neutral onlooker and no one wants to support her plans.

The real threat though is that your city likely has an activist urban planner on staff who came up with the "no cars street" idea and they need to be fired or else they'll keep trying to transform your city into a fictional version of Amsterdam.

 

[Tago Mago]

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Urbanists are second-class citizens.

I guess this should be on the Breadtube thread but Knowing Better is such a retard. He used to be relatively okay, but he spiraled so hard into Breadtube, he's insufferable now. I wouldn't be surprised if he joins the "carfree movement" and makes a two hour long essay about how evil and rayyyyyycist the auto industry is.

 

[Markass the Worst]

I guess this should be on the Breadtube thread but Knowing Better is such a retard. He used to be relatively okay, but he spiraled so hard into Breadtube, he's insufferable now. I wouldn't be surprised if he joins the "carfree movement" and makes a two hour long essay about how evil and rayyyyyycist the auto industry is.

Jason Slaughter already promotes him at every opportunity he can, honestly surprised he isn't already in the carfree rabbit hole. His only good video was on Columbus (and even then he walked it back after getting flack from other lefties).

 

[Yamamura]

Libertarian man is back with part 2. I feel like at this point he knows about fuckcars and is just taking potshots at them.

 

[Señora Airi]

Thanks Vaush, why yes I will buy the MmmmbigTruck.

Who's even buying new trucks straight from the dealer? Anecdotal, but most people I know are looking at used trucks that are way cheaper and less flashy interiors.

 

[Yamamura]

Who's even buying new trucks straight from the dealer? Anecdotal, but most people I know are looking at used trucks that are way cheaper and less flashy interiors.

Usually either people leasing or financing probably. I think it was said in this thread before, but contractors usually like doing this. I'm not complaining though, the more people who spec out all the nice options the better it is for the people who buy used.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Who's even buying new trucks straight from the dealer? Anecdotal, but most people I know are looking at used trucks that are way cheaper and less flashy interiors.

This is part of the game of finding the most ridiculous outliers and using it as some sort of proof. Yes, I'm sure there's at least one person who has a $50k truck and never uses it other than to commute an hour to work one way.

I'm not sure if they realize it or not. They'll wholeheartedly accept bullshit ("yes, grocery stores in the suburbs are thirty minutes") but rush to defend mass transit ("ackshually, there's very little crime on mass transit")

 

[JJLiautaud]

They used to argue that New York City had >50% households without a car, but I believe that's no longer true for the city as a whole (and if it is it's rapidly decreasing). The ID thing is real, though, because legally stores are supposed to card anyone who "looks under 40" to buy alcohol or tobacco. Are they saying that shops never card for that (and thus breaking the law), or that Manhattanites don't buy alcohol or tobacco?

it gets worse

KB is a fucking retard.

 

[IdiotPlusPlus]

Libertarian man is back with part 2. I feel like at this point he knows about fuckcars and is just taking potshots at them.

tbh I really want there to be a trend of 70's land yachts but with EV drivetrains slotted in for use as town/suburb cars, be comfy af cruising to work, and way more efficient and powerful then the asthmatic V8's they originally came with lol.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

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KB is a fucking retard.

Is he referring to the can of worms that is REAL ID that the government has been pushing for decades? Why is he ok with what is essentially a passport for domestic travel (which is not only redundant to state IDs as well as potentially violates the amendment in regard to free travel between states), but act like getting a state issued ID is the hardest thing in the world? Just admit you think people are too dumb/lazy to get an ID and then justify why those people should even be voting in the first place.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Also what are they blathering about? A Passport is a national ID that everyone can get.

 

[Seija Kijin]

I am glad I live in a nice detached house in a suburban area, with greenery and fields nearby, far away from the cities.

I would gladly fight to defend how I live from the bugman menace.

 

[Lady Bizness]

They should be.

Does she have popular support? If not, you could probably report her, especially if you could bait her into saying something about Israel.

This won’t fix your problem, but it would be funny. These people hate being told no.

I don't participate in local social media, but I do, and did report name calling.

The best way to deal with them is to say "I'd love more safe bike routes. We should build a nice bike trail which is much safer than a bike lane". Then when she spergs out because you found a solution that doesn't take away car lanes (her real goal), she looks crazy to every neutral onlooker and no one wants to support her plans.

The real threat though is that your city likely has an activist urban planner on staff who came up with the "no cars street" idea and they need to be fired or else they'll keep trying to transform your city into a fictional version of Amsterdam.

Last time this shit happened there was a lot more support, but the impact on safety and traffic was so bad that most people are mad about it this time. We've got a local famous person and college kids that keep collaborating to make this thing happen in the hopes that everyone will see how great it is and finally turn in their cars. If I can hang tough, I actually like these dumb trial projects because everyone ends up hating it so it ends up being bad PR for this excessive bike crap.

 

[Internet Wizard]

I am glad I live in a nice detached house in a suburban area, with greenery and fields nearby, far away from the cities.

I would gladly fight to defend how I live from the bugman menace.

Despite being from an exurb I realize that it was very naturally pretty and won't screech endlessly about how it needs to be obliterated (most planners learn theories on integrating nature with the urban form, ofc the bugmen won't listen to this part and will be too busy jacking off to the authenticity of favelas and commieblocks)
The problem with urbanists is that they spend so much time in the city they can't imagine why anyone else wouldn't. I just think about this post

(Of the actual planners I've met, the ones that think like this or take the NJB crowd seriously thankfully only want to work in gentrified shitholes like NYC and think anything other than that is second class. They're much more of a purely online group than they may seem)

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

(Of the actual planners I've met, the ones that think like this or take the NJB crowd seriously thankfully only want to work in gentrified shitholes like NYC and think anything other than that is second class)

One thing I've noticed is that if you're doing planning out in an exurb or small town, or even a suburb, the results of the plan are really easy to see, and it's pretty simple to lay blame or give praise.

When you're in a dense urban environment, it's easier to hide failures in "other reasons we couldn't control" even if it's actually the case that the plan was dumb as fuck. You also have so many moving parts that it's harder for the people who live and use it to correctly identify what went wrong.