Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[bouquetnine]

I am deeply pessimistic about the insanity ending. Trans ideology has captured entire institutions, private and public, national and international.

I have hope. UK just did a huge 180 after the Cass Review.

 

[Jacques1194]

I have hope. UK just did a huge 180 after the Cass Review.

Yeah but for how long since Labor is going to get elected in about a month? I dont trust them at all and they'll double down on pro trans policies once elected. Like I said I'll have hope once I see a major left wing party in the west break free of this pro trans crap.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Yeah but for how long since Labor is going to get elected in about a month? I dont trust them at all and they'll double down on pro trans policies once elected. Like I said I'll have hope once I see a major left wing party in the west break free of this pro trans crap.

And even though the Conservative party is finally doing something , it must never be forgotten that nearly the entire rise and rise of transgender lunacy in the UK was under its watch. The Conservatives have been in power for 14 years while children were poisoned with exogenous wrong-sex hormones and the NHS became the institutionally captured plaything of the Trans Church.

This is not an argument that Labour will be better. It will be much worse.

In Australia, the Greens party might as well be renamed the Trans and Islamist party. Labor is fully onboard with trans lunacy. Even our alleged 'conservative' party - the Liberal-National coalition - ousted a member of parliament from the party room in Victoria because she attended a Let Women Speak event.

And in America? The Democrats may slowly de-emphasise their trans allegiance because garden-variety Democrat voters aren't as deranged as the party elite, but I will note that only Republican states have done anything meaningful about protecting women and girls.

 

[teriyakiburns]

And even though the Conservative party is finally doing something , it must never be forgotten that nearly the entire rise and rise of transgender lunacy in the UK was under its watch.

As a counter, much of the change happened after the 2019 election, when a tranche of new Tory MPs entered the house, with a much different stance than established members, and many of Cameron's old guard were shuffled out of the Ministries. You ended up with people like Badenoch entering the cabinet and pursuing an aggressive new policy direction against trans activism. There was a profound shift in the country's position on trans issues from 2019 forward. Cass was commissioned in 2020, for instance. The tory pary today is a very different animal from the tory party of even five years ago.

As for Labour, if my assumptions on their electoral performance hold true, they're not going to have the power to legislate any sort of tranny paradise, because they'll be too busy trying to hold together fragile agreements with the greens, lib dems, or SNP and will spend most of their term firefighting and reacting to events (something to which Starmer is particularly weak) rather than setting a coherent agenda. Plus there's already a reformist movement coming up the ranks in the institutions (certainly the NHS and possibly the civil service) that is firmly set against tranny shit, so they'll have to contend with institutional opposition as well as political infighting.

 

[Wallace]

A detransitioner describes how troonery is sold to autistic boys. With reference to Zinnia as a recruiter.

Stimulus Dysphoria​

Autistic hypersensitivity and gender dysphoria​

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There’s something going on with my head, which I think a lot of guys who decide they have gender dysphoria experience. I’ve heard it referred to as “autistic hypersensitivity”. People with autism often find certain sensory experiences intolerable, especially unexpected ones. Sounds are too loud or shrill; lights are too bright; touches are too gentle; textures are too strange; even your own body can feel wrong, sending too many confusing sensory signals for your brain to handle at once. To an autistic, especially one who’s already agitated or too young to have good coping mechanisms, the world can feel like a very sharp place. This sensory overload can contribute to the meltdowns common in autistic children, where the feeling of overstimulation is so distressing that the individual shuts down or starts lashing out. As we get older, most of us get better at dealing with it, but the problem itself doesn’t go away.

Many autistics, especially high-functioning ones, are undiagnosed until late in life. If you’re a teenage aspie boy, you might have grown up with an omnipresent feeling of discomfort with the world and your body’s place in it, and have no better explanation for that feeling than that you’re just a gay little bitch, an alternative narrative can be tempting. Trans ideology provides such a narrative: the reason you feel so uncomfortable all the time is that you were born in the wrong body. And all of a sudden you have a reason for all the suffering you’ve been through and a plan to fix it.

One of the online sources I trusted for information on transition as a confused fourteen-year-old was Zinnia Jones. In 2013, Jones wrote an article on “indirect gender dysphoria.” Please, follow that link and give it a look before you read on. I don’t want to speculate on the author’s intentions, although I don’t think it’s intended as a grooming document—but it’s very effective at convincing autistic people, especially impressionable young ones, that they’re transgender.

The article starts off by “debunking” the idea that trans people “always knew” they were trans. The subtle message which comes across, without ever being explicitly stated, is that you—yes, you, the person reading the article—could be trans, and not even know it. If you’re a particularly credulous individual—say, an autistic teenager—you might accept this premise. It might even be something you’ve considered before, after having been exposed to the suggestion elsewhere online, in which case the article reinforces it. But, you tell yourself: I don’t have any problem with my gender, therefore I don’t have gender dysphoria!

The article says:

A largely unrecognized facet of dysphoria is that not all trans people initially recognize or experience this as being unmistakably connected to our genders. Some of us suffer the distress that stems from dysphoria, but without many clues that this is about gender, and its relation to our genders may be obvious only in retrospect. Much attention is focused on the “gender” part of this, the well-defined cross-gender identities and needs and feelings. Less is given to the experience of more general dysphoria.

When you don’t know what this is, or that it’s even an actual condition, it’s easy to mistake it for who you naturally are. You might think it’s part of your innate personality and disposition, and something you just have to learn to cope with.

Hm… so you might have been experiencing gender dysphoria without even realizing. That’s troubling! How would you know if you had been experiencing gender dysphoria? What might that be like?

Almost exactly what it’d be like to be autistic and struggling with hypersensitivity and emotional dysregulation, it turns out!

I often wondered how other kids could just go about their lives, talking and laughing and being so calm and happy, like nothing was wrong. I don’t know what I really expected of them – I didn’t have the vaguest idea of what was “wrong”, either. I didn’t know why I felt so anxious all the time, I just did. I had no idea why the rest of the world didn’t feel the same way, and I wanted to know what that was like.
It felt like my mind was constantly talking to itself without any interruption, and it was overanalyzing everything around me. Some second, parallel existence seemed to be running alongside my direct experience of consciousness: an inner monologue of sorts, but a very toxic one. I couldn’t stop thinking about everything – it was as though this loud voice in my head kept me from simply existing in the moment.

But there’s hope: these horrible feelings of gender dysphoria (autism) were fixed by transition! Imagine you’re the young autistic kid who’s felt his whole life like he’s different, like he doesn’t understand the people around him, like there’s something wrong with him, like just existing in the world means a constant assault on his senses—think about how that kid would feel when he read this:

It was possible to feel things in all their detail and depth and texture, rather than being limited to either numbness or emotional overload. The skin of separation was gone, and life was a breeze: I was just happy, all day, without constantly intrusive thoughts distracting me and separating me from the world. I can truly care about everything I choose to work towards, because it matters now. I’m the normal person I always wanted to be, and I can get on with simply living.

What a tempting fantasy for someone who’s always been weird, who’s always wanted to be normal but never known how, right? It’s very perceptive, so you know you can trust it—no one could write it who hadn’t really experienced those feelings. And if someone else has been through the exact same thing you have, and transition helped them… maybe you should give it a shot too. It sounds nice, right? To finally be able to comfortably exist in the world?

The perspective of this article is held widely among the trans community, particularly those actively involved in the movement. Jones isn’t some fringe weirdo; this is the perspective that you’ll find in pretty much any trans space. It’s the engine that makes grooming sites like r/egg_irl work. A vulnerable autistic person, often a minor, first has the idea planted in their head that they could be trans, even if they’ve never considered it before; then they’re told that other people have experienced the same difficulties they have and slowly convinced to attribute all those challenges to gender dysphoria; then they’re told that transition will alleviate all of that.

It won’t; it can’t. It might help somewhat, thanks to the placebo effect; maybe the medicine even has some benefit. Estrogen treats autism in mice, and might work similarly for humans. But any small amount of good that comes out of transition is outweighed by the horrible side effects. I went over a lot of the physical effects in my last piece, but the I didn’t talk about feeling of having had permanently made yourself into a monster, of having separated yourself from others forever, of having fucked with your ability to feel desire, have sex and reproduce; things which are fundamental to being human.

The article, and the online trans people who will cheer you on to transition, make you think that you’ll finally be a normal person. The opposite happens: transition takes the feeling you have inside and makes your outside match.

 

[bouquetnine]

And even though the Conservative party is finally doing something , it must never be forgotten that nearly the entire rise and rise of transgender lunacy in the UK was under its watch. The Conservatives have been in power for 14 years while children were poisoned with exogenous wrong-sex hormones and the NHS became the institutionally captured plaything of the Trans Church.

This is not an argument that Labour will be better. It will be much worse.

In Australia, the Greens party might as well be renamed the Trans and Islamist party. Labor is fully onboard with trans lunacy. Even our alleged 'conservative' party - the Liberal-National coalition - ousted a member of parliament from the party room in Victoria because she attended a Let Women Speak event.

And in America? The Democrats may slowly de-emphasise their trans allegiance because garden-variety Democrat voters aren't as deranged as the party elite, but I will note that only Republican states have done anything meaningful about protecting women and girls.

All of politics is theater. All of it.

I suspect the elites might be sacrificing troons as part of the ratchet strategy: They took a bunch of steps forward for their agenda and they're going to give us this tiny "win" so we stop worrying about the rest. Troons have been just one part of keeping us fighting each other instead of the elites exploiting us. Then they're going to start tightening the ratchet again.

 

[deermeat]

All of politics is theater. All of it.

I suspect the elites might be sacrificing troons as part of the ratchet strategy: They took a bunch of steps forward for their agenda and they're going to give us this tiny "win" so we stop worrying about the rest. Troons have been just one part of keeping us fighting each other instead of the elites exploiting us. Then they're going to start tightening the ratchet again.

Exactly this. It's bizarre seeing how many people who can see troonery as the nonsense that it is go on to still have faith in politicians and alike. I guess the alternative, that the entire system is set out against us, is too much to bear for some people. They are still hooked on the past American dream. The nostalgia of way back then when politics had the illusion of seeming fair and just. And really, what are we supposed to do other than not waste our time voting? Everyone else believes in it. Try convivicng people to revolt like that. The thing is, for the most part everything is still peaceful. Look at other countries and compare their life to ours. A person still has the freedom to avoid partaking in the system, until that is outright taken from us (which would mean restricting our freedom completely), no one is gonna do anything.

I despise the whole narrative that troons are merely a distraction, and not an invention. This isn't a subset of people who were obscure once, peaceful and reasonable who "just wanted to live their lives" like truscum believes, they were always mentally ill desperate cult-like people being exploited and groomed by the medical industry. Isn't it weird how troons became more of an actual thing after World War 2? Isn't it odd how trans became more and more recognized the same timeframe Project Mockingbird and MK Ultra were concieved? And yet, as soon as anyone mentions MK Ultra and makes a connection to basically any potential goverment exploitation, people roll their eyes as if it's unreasoable. Even though MK Ultra was quite literally a real thing that happened, same with Project Mockingbird. Both seem to be applicable to trans idealogy.

People point out that troons existed pre-WW11. But did they really? Surely one can argue that the whole concept of being transexual had to deal with being under some type of medical contract. Contrary to what people believe, no troon without surgery or medical alteration passes. Most troons barely pass with surgery and medication. The social issues were always there. Cross dressing, sexual devinacy, mental illness. But these were social issues that were exploited. They were artifically lumped together as a new idea: the concept of being able to change your own sex.
Science has always been compromised in some way. How did they find out about HRT? How did they find out about hormones? How did they find out about puberty blockers? It took coercion and manipulation, a lot of the times straight up force. Why go the extra mile in kidnapping someone so unwilling and trying to convince them something impossible, when you can get them to do things to themselves willingly instead? Science costs money too. Science, out of all fields, cost the most money. Money that the average person can't invest in.

I could be wrong. Feel free to tell me all about the troons that existed pre-WW11 and didn't rely on surgeries/medication and weren't simple feminine gay men getting off to sexual deviancy or a person self mutilating themselves due to a psychotic episode. I just think it's telling, that's all. Very telling how the whole existence of being transgender relies solely on goverment assistance, whether it be subtly or outright. But nah, what do I know? I mentioned MK Ultra, that makes me a mindless conspiracy theorist suffering with schizphorenia by default.

 

[bouquetnine]

I despise the whole narrative that troons are merely a distraction, and not an invention. This isn't a subset of people who were obscure once, peaceful and reasonable who "just wanted to live their lives" like truscum believes, they were always mentally ill desperate cult-like people being exploited and groomed by the medical industry.

And they were rightfully marginalized. It's only recently that they've been given tons of privileges. And so long as people are worried about cancel culture with trannies at the front they'll be good little worker bees and not ask for anything important like a real pay raise or better work from home schedules.

 

[Aljam]

Why do South East Asian hsts are such horrifying uncanny valley "women"?

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

With the Supreme Court set to rule on Kate Strangio's challenge to the the Tennessee ban any day now, I have been pondering a question for the troons to answers. Specifically, what is transgender status and how is it defined?

The reason I ask, is Strangio keeps citing to the Bostock case for the proposition that "discrimination based on transgender status is sex based discrimination." However, all of the ban cases mostly involve people who have not trooned out yet. Thus, arguably they have not reached transgender status yet. Thus, Bostock could not be implicated. (Besides the fact the plain text of Bostock disclaims its use in the manner Strangio is invoking it). My guess is Strangio would argue that the mere desire to troon out confers that status. But that would seem to be an unfalsifiable claim.

 

[bouquetnine]

It is bonkers how troons and their allies are so quick to dehumanize people. I see this behavior very regularly from this crowd. They are aching for a chance to commit atrocities.

And somehow they don't understand why people dislike them.

 

[deermeat]

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It is bonkers how troons and their allies are so quick to dehumanize people. I see this behavior very regularly from this crowd. They are aching for a chance to commit atrocities.

And somehow they don't understand why people dislike them.

I looked at their account out of sheer curiosity and I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't this.

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It baffles me how people who create this stuff and are into this stuff then try to act self righteous. I'm no prude, but holy hell. Oh you poor tranny. I'm sure, uh.... Im sure people will really accept you after looking at all this. You are totally not mentally ill.

 

[bouquetnine]

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It is bonkers how troons and their allies are so quick to dehumanize people. I see this behavior very regularly from this crowd. They are aching for a chance to commit atrocities.

And somehow they don't understand why people dislike them.

Some additional context, this is one of those "hot transfemmes" this person draws. Real coombrain stuff. Proof that it's a fetish and they're only in it for the sexual gratification.

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[King Koopa]

I looked at their account out of sheer curiosity and I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't this.

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It baffles me how people who create this stuff and are into this stuff then try to act self righteous. I'm no prude, but holy hell. Oh you poor tranny. I'm sure, uh.... Im sure people will really accept you after looking at all this. You are totally not mentally ill.

Jesus christ, I could hardly figure out what was going on in these. Why does the sketched character have nutsacks on the sides of its body? What kind of shit do you have to look at to develop a fetish for three-legged, four-holed humanoids? Why does that boob have a demi-gorgon mouth, and the penis a tongue? What the fuck?

 

[grenouille crétine]

At least with the colors of the last one you can squint and pretend like it’s just a sea anemone or something. Jesus Christ.

Unlike histrionic troons, I don’t think every person who disagrees with me is subhuman, even if I don’t like them. But the people who draw/enjoy shit like this certainly are, entirely of their own making. You cannot get off to shit like that and not be a depraved predatory degenerate trying to inject coom (pun intended) into everything (pun intended).

Gender euphoria is so…

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wholesome, isn’t it?

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

I feel like I've legitimately never encountered a tranny (certainly an MTF tranny) who wasn't, to some degree or other, a pervert. How it manifests itself is different from individual to individual - some are exhibitionists, some are coomers or porn addicts, some are sissy fetishists who've taken it too far and ended up on the trans bus, some are furries, some jack off in their sister's/mother's underwear, some drink their own piss, some are aspiring pornstars and camgirls. And most are largely open about their degeneracy.

But the minute you accuse them of being sexual deviants, they act completely scandalised.

 

[bouquetnine]

I feel like I've legitimately never encountered a tranny (certainly an MTF tranny) who wasn't, to some degree or other, a pervert. How it manifests itself is different from individual to individual - some are exhibitionists, some are coomers or porn addicts, some are sissy fetishists who've taken it too far and ended up on the trans bus, some are furries, some jack off in their sister's/mother's underwear, some drink their own piss, some are aspiring pornstars and camgirls. And most are largely open about their degeneracy.

But the minute you accuse them of being sexual deviants, they act completely scandalised.

 

[pursuitsnail]

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I mean, I knew that people interpreted Iran's policy of "get castrated or get executed" in this way, but I've never seen it in the wild before. It feels like it was just five minutes ago that forcing gays to get surgically remade into an of imitation of women if they didn't want to die was a human rights violation.

 

[The Ugly One]

And even though the Conservative party is finally doing something , it must never be forgotten that nearly the entire rise and rise of transgender lunacy in the UK was under its watch. The Conservatives have been in power for 14 years while children were poisoned with exogenous wrong-sex hormones and the NHS became the institutionally captured plaything of the Trans Church.

It's not like they could have done anything - the Guardian would have said they were rude!

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's not like they could have done anything - the Guardian would have said they were rude!

They'd stop being invited to all the right parties! Can you imagine?!