ForeverKailyn / SincerelyKailyn / kmwbeauty / Kailyn Marie Hughes/Wilcher - Hey Guyths!

[crazybengali96]

Starting to wonder why I ever expected timely speech development with Gracie when her own mother is so bumbling and inarticulate. I've seen more enthusiasm from toddlers describing their bus-ride booger hauls.

You're hilarious! I cannot stop laughing at your last sentence.

 

[demeter]

If they find out she's neglecting her, what are the odds if them intervening? Where would she go?

Typically case workers try every way to keep a child with their parents. But if she were removed, they would then try to find other family to take her. Barring that, she'd probably end up in fosterling care.

 

[Fresh Grown Breasts]

If they find out she's neglecting her, what are the odds if them intervening? Where would she go?

Christ, how many times? Gracie is not abused. She's a healthy weight, she wears age appropriate clothes, she looks clean, and she has stimulation, albeit in the form of television. Her home is tidy and clean, she has toys, a bedroom and three non-addict adults at her disposal, not to mention aunts and uncles who visit. They take her out- not often, but she plays in the garden, swimming pool and goes shopping. They take her to restaurants at least 4 times a year for family birthdays.

I'm in no way white knighting Kai, she's a cunt, but that kid simply isn't neglected to the point of abuse. Her life is pretty crap, but compared to kids who are actually neglected and abused, she's living like royalty.

 

[commandersalamander]

She's said this many times before. Guac's assessment is coming up to see if she truly is delayed due to neglect (that's not really what they're looking for, but the medical world isn't full of idiots and they'll know why Guac can't talk).
She just wants to let everything pass casually so no one asks about it.

What Kai doesn't realize is she'd look like a better mom (to me at least) if she openly acknowledged Gracie's delays and showed attentiveness and attempts to remedy or treat them rather than hide and deny that her daughter is less than perfect. She looks neglectful when she claims "everything is fine" when it's pretty obvious Gracie is delayed.

Christ, how many times? Gracie is not abused. She's a healthy weight, she wears age appropriate clothes, she looks clean, and she has stimulation, albeit in the form of television. Her home is tidy and clean, she has toys, a bedroom and three non-addict adults at her disposal, not to mention aunts and uncles who visit. They take her out- not often, but she plays in the garden, swimming pool and goes shopping. They take her to restaurants at least 4 times a year for family birthdays.

I'm in no way white knighting Kai, she's a cunt, but that kid simply isn't neglected to the point of abuse. Her life is pretty crap, but compared to kids who are actually neglected and abused, she's living like royalty.

I agree Gracie is unlikely to be taken away at this time (CPS is pretty strict. Even a child with hoarder parents won't get taken away unless the filth and clutter is a proven health/safety hazard) but if MW was no longer in the picture, I could see that happening easily. MW currently supervises most of Kai's interactions with Gracie from what we can tell, and probably helps with basic tasks like feeding and hygiene. Unsupervised, I could see Kai unintentionally harming and/or neglecting Gracie and subsequently getting CPS involved. It's not uncommon for disabled parents to get their kids taken away due to negligence (I've read about a woman with an IQ of 70 who had her daughter temporarily taken away because she didn't properly feed the baby [she missed scheduled feedings because she can't read analog clocks] and struggled to preform other basic needs like diaper changing.)

 

[Country Matters]

What Kai doesn't realize is she'd look like a better mom (to me at least) if she openly acknowledged Gracie's delays and showed attentiveness and attempts to remedy or treat them rather than hide and deny that her daughter is less than perfect. She looks neglectful when she claims "everything is fine" when it's pretty obvious Gracie is delayed.

Part of me wonders if Kai even realizes how delayed Gracie is. I mean, I'm pretty sure she reads YTT on a somewhat regular basis, and they can't stop talking about how delayed that poor kid is. But does she really understand? Or does she just think they're being assholes?

 

[sparklemilhouse]

I don't understand why someone would get Amazon Prime for such mundane things. If I had Prime, I would use that service for fancy-schmancy makeup, technology, cute clothes, and favorite books. Not nail files...you can just get those at the nearest drugstore!

Keep in mind though, kai rarely leaves the house anymore.

 

[Ravenor]

What Kai doesn't realize is she'd look like a better mom (to me at least) if she openly acknowledged Gracie's delays and showed attentiveness and attempts to remedy or treat them rather than hide and deny that her daughter is less than perfect. She looks neglectful when she claims "everything is fine" when it's pretty obvious Gracie is delayed.

Part of me wonders if Kai even realizes how delayed Gracie is. I mean, I'm pretty sure she reads YTT on a somewhat regular basis, and they can't stop talking about how delayed that poor kid is. But does she really understand? Or does she just think they're being assholes?

You see that's my thoughts on this as well I am not sure Kai is even realyl aware Gracie even has problems, she seems to have a hard and fast understanding i.e. Baby, small kid, teen, Grown up and no idea about the transitory phases that are really really important.

But we also know that other than Photo op's she doesnt really spend much time with her, unless they just happen to be in the same room together, so there is a good chance she hasn't spent engought time around her to really pick up on it, so that's a concern as well.

MW currently supervises most of Kai's interactions with Gracie from what we can tell, and probably helps with basic tasks like feeding and hygiene.

As much as I despise the term it is quite apt, she is very much the "Sister mom" Kai does non of the day to day leg work with gracie and I think MW has ensured it's that way because she is frightened of what Kai would be like with her left alone for a prolonged period of time.

I have mentioned it before but Kai has flashes of anger if not downright Rage with a worrying frequency when Gracie does something normal that Kai doesn't expect or understand. Now imagine if MW went out for the evening and left Kai in charge an Gracie played up as kids do - I can see Kai lashing out at her because she can't handle the situation after a few hours of playing mommy.

Unsupervised, I could see Kai unintentionally harming and/or neglecting Gracie and subsequently getting CPS involved. It's not uncommon for disabled parents to get their kids taken away due to negligence (I've read about a woman with an IQ of 70 who had her daughter temporarily taken away because she didn't properly feed the baby [she missed scheduled feedings because she can't read analog clocks] and struggled to preform other basic needs like diaper changing.)

See what I said above but I can honestly also see Kai not intending to hurt the child but doing it either in a fit of rage or just being rough with her, when I was about 3 I was on my first trike riding next to my dad and nearly rode into the road when a car was coming my dad just grabbed my arm an pulled me back really really hard and I was frightened an confused but he did it because there was a car speeding down the road and he was doing it to protect me, I'm not talking of Kai doing something like that out of having to react quickly and using more force than necessary.

No what I am talking about is her just picking her up an handling her like a toy (imo Kai see's her as nothing more than a toy / prop out of ignorance) and ending up really hurting the kid not out of malice but just by ignorance and when your a fully grown adult that's absurdly easy to do, hell Kai is the kind of person who doesn't really understand basic child safety, so she doesnt really need to be involved for Graciey to come to harm she could just leave a pair of hot curling tongs in easy reach and Gracie is going to get hurt. I'm glad she doesent cook / or picked up the yummy mummy in the bed an kitchen thing so Gracie isn't likely to be put in a position where she can pull a pan of hot oil over herself, or get fed poorly cooked chicken an alike.

Keep in mind though, kai rarely leaves the house anymore.

I don't think she ever really has, I think David remarked on how much more active she was when they where dating than ever before - Kai through a mix of happenstance and isolation engineered by her mother has wound up the human equivalent of a house cat, you can take her a very short distance and she is very much out of her framework of reference and she can't deal with it.

My guess is Kai like Phil wasn't that much of a curious child, but any curiosity they did have was stunted by being dropped infront of a TV for hours on end and no stimulation to encourage curiosity, hell I mean just look at MW's prohibition of crayons onside the house that's not a new thing and Kai was brought up with the same rules, that's part of the reason she is so stunted she was never intended to be her own person an was denied the basic tools of self expression we all try and master at a young age like art (the creation of art is a basic trate that defines a modern human alongside tool use).

I live with a 14 month old child and he's at least getting to grips with crayons an such and trying to draw things he see's (really rough outlines of people, more basic than a stick figure) and that's perfectly normal to start doing at that age, but Gracie doesn't seem to have done anything like that and self expression is a defining part of the human condition, and it's something you need to develop in your very formative years. Kai didn't an Gracie is being denied that opportunity as well.

Hell for Kid's drawing is a way of working things out that have happened to you, or your place in a situation. I mean as a adult you'd be hard pressed to find a adult who doesn't find sketching there feelings as cathartic (if you don't do it seriously give it a try). Without more access to Matt's family I can honestly say Gracie is going to end up worse than Kai but had the possibility of being so much more.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

Part of me wonders if Kai even realizes how delayed Gracie is. I mean, I'm pretty sure she reads YTT on a somewhat regular basis, and they can't stop talking about how delayed that poor kid is. But does she really understand? Or does she just think they're being assholes?

Kai doesn't realize how delayed she herself is. She doesn't have a concept of what constitutes delay. MW is so in denial of Kai's FAS/other disability that it's been speculated multiple times that Kai is getting but thinks it's from YouTube because MW refuses to tell her what it really is. Even though the YTT girls and we Kiwis are calling Guac delayed or whatever, MW could be turning around and telling Kai that it's just lies we are making up, like calling people re.tards as an insult.

 

[Sparklepants]

Part of me wonders if Kai even realizes how delayed Gracie is. I mean, I'm pretty sure she reads YTT on a somewhat regular basis, and they can't stop talking about how delayed that poor kid is. But does she really understand? Or does she just think they're being assholes?

She was on Snapchat last night bitching about how people are so rude and reading off YTT posts, so she probably just thinks they're the hayders.

 

[polka-dotted]

Take a shot every time she does her "giggle-exhale"...

 

[anusaurus]

Christ, how many times? Gracie is not abused. She's a healthy weight, she wears age appropriate clothes, she looks clean, and she has stimulation, albeit in the form of television. Her home is tidy and clean, she has toys, a bedroom and three non-addict adults at her disposal, not to mention aunts and uncles who visit. They take her out- not often, but she plays in the garden, swimming pool and goes shopping. They take her to restaurants at least 4 times a year for family birthdays.

I'm in no way white knighting Kai, she's a cunt, but that kid simply isn't neglected to the point of abuse. Her life is pretty crap, but compared to kids who are actually neglected and abused, she's living like royalty.

For the hundredth time, neglect is a form of abuse. Guac is definitely abused through lack of normal stimulation.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

For the hundredth time, neglect is a form of abuse. Guac is definitely abused through lack of normal stimulation.

She's barely neglected. Her developmental needs are neglected, sure, but so are the developmental needs of thousands of other children whose parents are in denial, are uneducated, or think they can cure their child with some form of treatment besides proper therapy.
But Guac is clean, she has clothing, she is fed, she is not left in the house alone, and she is given toys to play with.
Ultimately, if the path continues this way (assuming M/PW don't die and leave Guac in the care of Kailyn), Guac is most likely going to turn out to be just stupid. Especially if she goes through public school like Kailyn wants. She's not going to starve, abuse animals, develop bedsores, or freeze to death, she's just going to be another dumb white trash girl.

 

[anusaurus]

I agree that she's not neglected to the point of starvation or actual health concerns, but she is neglected none the less.
True, it will be obvious what caused it when she gets older, it's just a shame that the CPS doesn't consider purposely stunting your child's intellectual development to be on par with physical abuse.

 

[Sports Casual]

Take a shot every time she does her "giggle-exhale"...

Take a shot for every Kai-ism, like when she says the number 110 as "One one ten". Down your drink to erase the unsettling horror of the abrupt way she stops laughing and goes back to a cold look when she's talking about Gracie's strawberry costume.

 

[©©©]

Take a shot for every Kai-ism, like when she says the number 110 as "One one ten". Down your drink to erase the unsettling horror of the abrupt way she stops laughing and goes back to a cold look when she's talking about Gracie's strawberry costume.

One one ten.

 

[crazybengali96]

Her 'one one ten' reminds of the time my brother would come home from school and complain about a girl who literally wrote 2008 as '20008'.

 

[polka-dotted]

Take a shot for every Kai-ism, like when she says the number 110 as "One one ten". Down your drink to erase the unsettling horror of the abrupt way she stops laughing and goes back to a cold look when she's talking about Gracie's strawberry costume.

o.o!
My goodness...that's downright cruel! We'd all be dead by the end of the video! Have some mercy!

 

[FatFuckingClown]

I think I know what Miss Kailyn wants for Chrithmath...
...a brand-thpanking new filtrum

 

[4Macie]

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I can literally stare right up her nose and into her brain from that angle.

I agree that she's not neglected to the point of starvation or actual health concerns, but she is neglected none the less.
True, it will be obvious what caused it when she gets older, it's just a shame that the CPS doesn't consider purposely stunting your child's intellectual development to be on par with physical abuse.

Not every 'neglect' by a parent is considered abuse enough to take a child away from their parents. No parent is perfect and the system understands that. Kai is a shitty as fuck parent, no one will argue that. But her shitty-ness is not on par with abuse. There are a million parents worse than Kai, and in comparison to some kids, Gracie is a golden and privileged child.

Shit parents does not equal Abusive parent. Gracie is not abused, she is just being mentally uncared for (maybe even neglected); but she's at such a young age that it's probably not abuse yet. Maybe if she's at the same capability when she's 10 something will happen...

 

[Picklechu]

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