US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Illegal immigrants drain far more money than they ever produce. It's simple math that cannot be denied.

Deporting them would remove a massive strain on all of the systems.

It could start with simple proof of citizenship for things. No birth certificate? No social security? No benefits.

 

[Quence]

Deport until the 20-30 million becomes 0. People will bitch about the cost and how cruel it is but the bullupfront cost of removing this fucking plague will more that be paid for in our medical system immediately being less stressed and crime dropping. Also if the cartels do not like it execute them on the fucking street.

I agree. And there will be less crowded and better performing schools, much more housing availability for Americans, and overall much less demand for resources and services.

However, there are a LOT more than 30 million that need to be deported. So-called ”Birthright Citizenship“ is complete bullsh*t and is NOT a right provided for in the Constitution. All of those filthy beaners and other undesirables who were granted instant citizenship simply because their illegal mothers spread their legs and dropped the vermin on US soil must GTFO.

And the so-called ‘Dreamers’ who were brought to the US as children? Oh boo-f* king-hoo, go back to the turd world hellhole that your kind crawled out of. No one believes that you’re worth keeping in the US.

 

[Quence]

It could start with simple proof of citizenship for things. No birth certificate? No social security? No benefits.

That would definitely help but there are tons of NGOs that would step in to support the invaders. And there’s the godd*mn Catholic church which goes out of its way to stick its thumb in America’s eye by constantly feeding, housing and all-around providing for illegals.

A hardcore balls out deportation program is the only thing that will really work.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

It doesn't need to be perfect. Trump was sabotaged and fucked over all the time during his term and despite that illegal immigration went down because he was putting a slight pressure on it.

By making it just a bit harder for illegals to get free gibs a load of them give up and leave. They are constantly looking for the least effort possible, so any roadblock no matter how small causes them to start giving up.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

It doesn't need to be perfect. Trump was sabotaged and fucked over all the time during his term and despite that illegal immigration went down because he was putting a slight pressure on it.

By making it just a bit harder for illegals to get free gibs a load of them give up and leave. They are constantly looking for the least effort possible, so any roadblock no matter how small causes them to start giving up.

Exactly this. Don't let perfection be the enemy of good enough. Make the moves you can do, see how it goes, and then decide if you do need more aggressive or radical actions.

 

[dustbuster]

Congress is quietly trying to put ‘DEI’ quotas back into college admissions and every aspect of American life. They hope you don’t notice…

“American Privacy Act of 2024” is nothing but a Trojan horse, sneakily reintroducing massive DEI quotas under the radar

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/05/15/congress-is-preparing-to-restore-quotas-in-college-admissions/

Here's how it works. APRA's quota provision, section 13 of APRA, says that any entity that "knowingly develops" an algorithm for its business must evaluate that algorithm "to reduce the risk of" harm. And it defines algorithmic "harm" to include causing a "disparate impact" on the basis of "race, color, religion, national origin, sex, or disability" (plus, weirdly, "political party registration status"). APRA Sec. 13(c)(1)(B)(vi)(IV)&(V).

At bottom, it's as simple as that. If you use an algorithm for any important decision about people—to hire, promote, advertise, or otherwise allocate goods and services—you must ensure that you've reduced the risk of disparate impact.

My rep is swamp scum.
Anyone who has connections on capitol hill should be making calls right now, because there's NO OPPOSITION atm.

This would undermine dozens of victories at the state level (victories spearheaded by Christopher F Rufo, whose socials ALSO have no contact info, and who ALSO seems to know nothing about this.)

https://iapp.org/news/a/proposed-american-privacy-rights-act-clears-us-house-subcommittee

 

[The Ugly One]

If you need people to pick crops, mechanize the farms or set up a bracero program

Niggers are capable of picking crops. Stop giving them free money to do nothing.

 

[NyQuilninja]

Niggers are capable of picking crops. Stop giving them free money to do nothing.

Don't that's how we got here in the first place

 

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Illegal immigrants drain far more money than they ever produce. It's simple math that cannot be denied.

Deporting them would remove a massive strain on all of the systems.

It could start with simple proof of citizenship for things. No birth certificate? No social security? No benefits.

Barring a massive, "one party is no longer around" or "what do you mean they elected Hitler" tier political shift in America and the rest of the West, they won't let you do this. It doesn't matter if it's Trump, it doesn't matter if they win majorities or even supermajorities in the house and senate.

The Jews do not want us getting rid of our wetback millstones. The Marxists do not want us getting rid of our wetback millstones. The demoralized leftists think literally the only thing our civilization can aspire to is to be a life support system for lazy brown and black people and that we deserve it because of our original sin of being white and competent. Getting past those three is an insurmountable political problem.

The second Trump or anyone else tries, a Judge is going to declare "well deporting all these brown people is disproportionately affecting brown people and that can only be because of racism so you're not allowed to do it." They already have done this for other similar reforms. And barring a future Right Wing Populist president (Trump or otherwise) going "well they made their ruling, now lets see them enforce it", that's the end of it for at least the next 20-50 years, period. And our country won't last that long at the current rate of decay.

 

[MrJokerRager]

White support for the GOP is slowly dropping. That's the bulk of the GOP support. The need to figure out how to appeal to zoomers and they need to do it fast.

Drop the Israeli/ADL/Big Business/Wall Street worship.

Show support and a willingness to stand up for folks being persecuted over January 6th.

Play hardball politics and not cuck on the border to protect gibs to Israel and Ukraine.

And a bunch of other things as well that pale well in comparison to the border, but I can see white support dropping if its pretty clear at higher levels of the GOP, they pretty much in practice don't care if Democrats turn America into a giant California.

And its farcical at this point to see them acting like Brave Christian Patriots (TM) when they will throw folks like Tucker under the bus and as we see Conservative Inc. at Fox News bringing on John Fetterman and Bill Maher, even though both hate conservative voters.

 

[Astro Loafo]

I think the real problem is the left and the right intentionally make up problems for one another to use.

 

[Breadbassket]

I think the real problem is the left and the right intentionally make up problems for one another to use.

Can you elaborate on this? The Democrats seem to be more aggressive in pushing policy meanwhile Republican politicians have the tendency to make a half-hearted response to something then fall away and hold the same position on the matter the Democrats did five years ago.

 

[quaawaa]

This would undermine dozens of victories at the state level (victories spearheaded by Christopher F Rufo, whose socials ALSO have no contact info, and who ALSO seems to know nothing about this.)

Chris Rufo has an email in his Twitter bio:

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

 

[Astro Loafo]

Can you elaborate on this? The Democrats seem to be more aggressive in pushing policy meanwhile Republican politicians have the tendency to make a half-hearted response to something then fall away and hold the same position on the matter the Democrats did five years ago.

So you're saying the right doesn't push policies that the left then feeds on to monger their subjects?

 

[Breadbassket]

So you're saying the right doesn't push policies that the left then feeds on to monger their subjects?

That's generally how politics usually work in a democracy. Parties will take the victories of their opponents and try to use them as a way motivate their own, especially single-issue voters. At the best of times it will be a tug of war. An example for America in particular is that Democrats will use rights to abortions and Republicans will use concerns about the border for their own ends. What they say they will do and what they will actually do must be considered as well. As long as there isn't a one-party state masquerading as a republic this will continue.

In the case of the USA, one observable political quirk is that after a significant liberal victory be it through legislation or courts, given enough time the GOP or at least some parts of it will attempt to adapt what was once unthinkable policy to their platform meanwhile the Dems can suffer a setback for a particular cause and still hold it as a stance since they see it as just one small part of the struggle for "progress."

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Barring a massive, "one party is no longer around" or "what do you mean they elected Hitler" tier political shift in America and the rest of the West, they won't let you do this. It doesn't matter if it's Trump, it doesn't matter if they win majorities or even supermajorities in the house and senate.

The Jews do not want us getting rid of our wetback millstones. The Marxists do not want us getting rid of our wetback millstones. The demoralized leftists think literally the only thing our civilization can aspire to is to be a life support system for lazy brown and black people and that we deserve it because of our original sin of being white and competent. Getting past those three is an insurmountable political problem.

The second Trump or anyone else tries, a Judge is going to declare "well deporting all these brown people is disproportionately affecting brown people and that can only be because of racism so you're not allowed to do it." They already have done this for other similar reforms. And barring a future Right Wing Populist president (Trump or otherwise) going "well they made their ruling, now lets see them enforce it", that's the end of it for at least the next 20-50 years, period. And our country won't last that long at the current rate of decay.

I think we're getting damned close to that Andrew Jackson line myself. Texas walked right up to it.

But you're not wrong. We cannot sustain this level of invasion.

 

[tehpope]

Barring a massive, "one party is no longer around" or "what do you mean they elected Hitler" tier political shift in America and the rest of the West, they won't let you do this. It doesn't matter if it's Trump, it doesn't matter if they win majorities or even supermajorities in the house and senate.

The Jews do not want us getting rid of our wetback millstones. The Marxists do not want us getting rid of our wetback millstones. The demoralized leftists think literally the only thing our civilization can aspire to is to be a life support system for lazy brown and black people and that we deserve it because of our original sin of being white and competent. Getting past those three is an insurmountable political problem.

The second Trump or anyone else tries, a Judge is going to declare "well deporting all these brown people is disproportionately affecting brown people and that can only be because of racism so you're not allowed to do it." They already have done this for other similar reforms. And barring a future Right Wing Populist president (Trump or otherwise) going "well they made their ruling, now lets see them enforce it", that's the end of it for at least the next 20-50 years, period. And our country won't last that long at the current rate of decay.

I think we're getting damned close to that Andrew Jackson line myself. Texas walked right up to it.

But you're not wrong. We cannot sustain this level of invasion.

I think we're getting to a point where people are gonna want a dictator type to swoop in and solve all the problems. And sadly, that might be what the left wants. Have someone on the right become a dictator and take away people's civil liberties and do their dirty work. Then when people are sick of that person, swoop in and rule.

I think falling into Facism is just a trap of the commies. We really need to come together as a people and understand that shit isn't gonna be sunshine and roses all the time. We need politicians who want to work together to solve issues. To be adults and not let optics run their careers. Will that happen? Probably not.

 

[Seychelle Pennyfeather]

Congress is quietly trying to put ‘DEI’ quotas back into college admissions and every aspect of American life. They hope you don’t notice…

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/05/15/congress-is-preparing-to-restore-quotas-in-college-admissions/

And it defines algorithmic "harm" to include causing a "disparate impact" on the basis of "race, color, religion, national origin, sex, or disability" (plus, weirdly, "political party registration status").

My rep is swamp scum.
Anyone who has connections on capitol hill should be making calls right now, because there's NO OPPOSITION atm.

This would undermine dozens of victories at the state level (victories spearheaded by Christopher F Rufo, whose socials ALSO have no contact info, and who ALSO seems to know nothing about this.)

https://iapp.org/news/a/proposed-american-privacy-rights-act-clears-us-house-subcommittee

The "political party registration status" is a sop to Republicans to get them to accept the deal. The RINOCucks will say to themselves, "Now Republicans are protected from discrimination, too, so since the communism applies equally to both sides, it's good!"

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

I think we're getting to a point where people are gonna want a dictator type to swoop in and solve all the problems. And sadly, that might be what the left wants. Have someone on the right become a dictator and take away people's civil liberties and do their dirty work. Then when people are sick of that person, swoop in and rule.

That'd be a bold strategy as they may not be around if they get a hard right-wing dictator. Kind of hard to swoop in to rule from a shallow grave.

 

[tehpope]

That'd be a bold strategy as they may not be around if they get a hard right-wing dictator. Kind of hard to swoop in to rule from a shallow grave.

The foot soliders will die. But the leaders and thinkers will escape to some other country. It happened with the Frankfurt School after Hitler came into power. Will happen again. You'd have to come down on the thinkers and leader at once to make sure no one survives. IMO, destroying marxist literature would be a bad idea. The best idea would be to educate people on why it doesn't work and not shine a light on it by banning marxist ideals. It just makes people want to know about it more.