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[Xarpho's Return]

You can own decommissioned military vehicles btw. Making them street legal is a different story. Has to he disarmed, needs shit like mirrors, turn signals, lights, etc. With enough work (and money) you COULD turn a M113 into a street legal minibus. It wouldn't be much of a M113 anymore, but you could.

In less than two weeks we'll be at the 20th anniversary of someone who turned a construction vehicle into a tank.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

In less than two weeks we'll be at the 20th anniversary of someone who turned a construction vehicle into a tank.

Almost any US military vehicle with wheels is already road-legal; the only thing necessary is removing any actual fireable weapons and certain types of armor.

There’s a million reasons they’re not practical vehicles but damn they’re fun.

https://youtu.be/Rm58eUtDC-4

(you’d also spend as much time or way more maintaining them than driving them)

 

[quaawaa]

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Thanks to Elon, people are actually free to criticize them.
The majority of replies are either anti-urbanist or bringing up the reason why we can't have nice things.

Normally for something like this, I'd write some analysis up, but for this one, I don't need to because someone already did it for me:

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He also destroys a Strong Towns fan:


And brings up that education costs significantly more than roads:

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and that the picture is misleadingly cropped and that Tokyo has worse commute times:

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Amazing how they always stop replying the second after they realize that their memes aren't working.

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A picture is worth a thousand words:

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An urbanist actually brought up the tunnels to say that it's plausible for Houston to build subways:

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I love how urbanists think that legalizing commercial zoning everywhere would result in increased transit usage (hint: that's how American cities are designed, not European ones. Tokyo is essentially laid out the same way as an American city, just with 10 times the density).

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[Baraka Obama]

Try taking a stoller or two onto the left, it sucks. Honestly it sucks even when they aren't busy, you end up needing to take a slow elevator four times in most stations, now imagine that if there is literally anyone else needing to use the only elevator on the concourse.

The thing they don't want to admit is that both systems work and the biggest reason not to do the right is space. East Asian megacities look like the left because Asia is different than Texas.

"People live and work in the same place" this is not true at all. Just like in the USA people prefer to live with more space further out and put up with a commute for their day job.

Daily basics may cluster around train stations but how is that really any different than them clustering around commuter arterial streets? And that ignores the fact that most people would prefer to go to a normal grocery store or a Japanese Costcto further out of their way once a week than to pay 30% more at the one next to the train station.

Edit: I should add I actually really like Tokyo but it's not a shining example of why to build a certain way. It's quite unique like just for example:

1. The train system is mostly privatized and was largely build by private enterprise as well. This isn't feasible to replicate outside of blank-slate environments like you'd get post-firebombing.
2. Houses aren't built to last here, they constantly fall in value due to risk of natural disasters and in turn are really only built to last ~40 years at most. This makes redeveloping an area a lot more viable (nb from what I can tell nobody bothers repairing anything)
3. Japan famously has few natural resources so electrification makes a lot more sense.
4. Culturally people are just a lot better behaved and polite in public which makes sharing a sardine can with 100 other people more tolerable than it would be anywhere else

 

[xXthrowawayaccountXx]

In his "Gym of Life" video (which I'm glad has started to become a bit more widely mocked), NJB's example of how you inherently walk more in dense cities is taken from the notoriously well-researched and factual documentary... Supersize Me.

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Yeah I'm sure the documentary where Spurlock lied about his crippling alcoholism and vegan diet prior to the "experiment" wouldn't dare do something like fake a step counter.

Why do these people constantly make me defend things that don't need it? The oil industry doesn't need help, McDonald's doesn't need help, but there are legitimate criticisms you can make of them without flagrantly lying and for some reason the lying upsets me more.

These groups lying is far more damaging than corpos lying, honestly. Everyone already knows that corpos lie, all the time. But when these groups lie, it diverts resources away from actually solving the problem. People will falsely believe they have already helped despite making no difference, and make the situation worse off.

There was a video I watched by a shitty breadtuber, Addison something, but it make a good point about those cringy smoking campaigns. Companies cannot kill dissent, but they can move that dissent into ways that are ineffective. In smoking's case, it's the "TRUTH" campaign. A campaign that makes adverts what basically go against everything that a scientific report has told about how to make effective anti-smoking campaigns.

Of course, she lacked the brainpower needed to link this to the rest of the political landscape, but still.

Whenever you see idiots being funded to make shitty slacktivism campaigns and throwing beans at the mona lisa, remember: always assume malice over idiocy when enough money is involved.

 

[Yamamura]

Thanks to Elon, people are actually free to criticize them.
The majority of replies are either anti-urbanist or bringing up the reason why we can't have nice things.

It greatly pleases me that people are pushing back against urbanists. For the longest time I've been annoyed at how it feels like on youtube they've had it too good for too long being unopposed. Which is why when that channel Common Sense Soapbox pushed back a little, it was nice to see a somewhat more major channel push back against their ideas.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

What times were the pictures taken? You basically have to look at both of them when it's 5:30 local time, but they're 15 hours apart.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

You can own decommissioned military vehicles btw. Making them street legal is a different story. Has to he disarmed, needs shit like mirrors, turn signals, lights, etc. With enough work (and money) you COULD turn a M113 into a street legal minibus. It wouldn't be much of a M113 anymore, but you could.

It's much easier to make old military vehicles street-legal when they're...cars.

Another carbrain victory.

Normally for something like this, I'd write some analysis up, but for this one, I don't need to because someone already did it for me:


He also destroys a Strong Towns fan:


And brings up that education costs significantly more than roads:



and that the picture is misleadingly cropped and that Tokyo has worse commute times:


Amazing how they always stop replying the second after they realize that their memes aren't working.

Are you fucking kidding me? Jebrim? That Jebrim? This guy is an Old School Runescape player:

I never thought I'd see one of the most autistic Runescape players in history arguing with urbanists. This guy is blisteringly autistic. I don't even know how many accounts he got 200 million agility experience on, but it's double digits at this point. He hasn't been very active in Runescape lately, I guess because he's busy arguing with urbanists. What a crossover I was not expecting.

 

[Atypical Dog]

You can own decommissioned military vehicles btw. Making them street legal is a different story. Has to he disarmed, needs shit like mirrors, turn signals, lights, etc. With enough work (and money) you COULD turn a M113 into a street legal minibus. It wouldn't be much of a M113 anymore, but you could.

Pimp my Rhino but in real life for the 40k nerds out there sounds like a great plan. Host a local tournament out of town and ride around in the Rhino after.

 

[quaawaa]

Are you fucking kidding me? Jebrim? That Jebrim? This guy is an Old School Runescape player:

I never thought I'd see one of the most autistic Runescape players in history arguing with urbanists. This guy is blisteringly autistic. I don't even know how many accounts he got 200 million agility experience on, but it's double digits at this point. He hasn't been very active in Runescape lately, I guess because he's busy arguing with urbanists. What a crossover I was not expecting.

His Twitter feed is 50% talking about programming and 50% arguing with urbanists.

The link in his bio is to jebscape.com which is a RuneScape site, and his Google Maps photo has the same profile picture as the YouTube channel so it seems to be the same guy.





This tweet of his was posted on /r/fuckcars a little while ago:

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RuneScape guy is pretty based.

 

[DavidS877]

I was curious how bad the commute times were in the car focused hell hole that is the US vs transit utopias like Japan.
Sadly, the newest I found was 2015, but let's go with that.

Hmm, how about that.

https://transportgeography.org/contents/chapter8/urban-transport-challenges/average-commuting-time/

https://archive.is/QbgNd

Also:

Of course, you can relax on public transit and do work or listen to podcasts. Yea, sure, or (except maybe for Japan) be constantly vigilant to prevent having your stuff stolen or getting stabbed.

 

[Internet Wizard]

I was curious how bad the commute times were in the car focused hell hole that is the US vs transit utopias like Japan.
Sadly, the newest I found was 2015, but let's go with that.
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Hmm, how about that.

https://transportgeography.org/contents/chapter8/urban-transport-challenges/average-commuting-time/

https://archive.is/QbgNd

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Of course, you can relax on public transit and do work or listen to podcasts. Yea, sure, or (except maybe for Japan) be constantly vigilant to prevent having your stuff stolen or getting stabbed.

You don't hear Japanese, Chinese or European planners bragging about their metro system on YouTube. It's almost like having a metro system isn't a fixall solution to urban problems

 

[S.C.U.D.]

His Twitter feed is 50% talking about programming and 50% arguing with urbanists.

The link in his bio is to jebscape.com which is a RuneScape site, and his Google Maps photo has the same profile picture as the YouTube channel so it seems to be the same guy.

I've spoken with him ingame, from the style alone I was sure it's the same guy. Dude is no joke a really good programmer, what he's done with Jebscape even at this early stage is incredible. In some ways he reminds me of Null. I get the impression he makes very healthy money from his programming job. I don't want to go off topic but Jebrim is very intelligent and very autistic and I'm just glad he uses his powers to BTFO urbanists rather than for evil. Definitely someone to look to for anti-urbanist arguments and figures, he always backs up what he says, unlike the bugmen.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I like him. Too many people try to fight the stupidity using their faggoty language. Resist directly!

 

[JJLiautaud]

His Twitter feed is 50% talking about programming and 50% arguing with urbanists.

The link in his bio is to jebscape.com which is a RuneScape site, and his Google Maps photo has the same profile picture as the YouTube channel so it seems to be the same guy.

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This tweet of his was posted on /r/fuckcars a little while ago:
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RuneScape guy is pretty based.

Is Jebrim an anti-cow, holy shit is he based.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

An urbanist actually brought up the tunnels to say that it's plausible for Houston to build subways:

I assume (I don't have a Twitter account, so I can't see the whole thread) he's talking about the downtown tunnel system, which is a completely wrong comparison.

1. The downtown tunnel system is only one level below ground and often has low ceilings and other features, some of these are because of the other infrastructure below (sewage, etc.) Subways go much deeper.
2. The ground under New York (and Tokyo) is largely rocky, whereas Houston's is pretty mushy. Houston's not the only one, Florida and New Orleans have even worse issues which makes basements, much less subways, unfeasible.

I love how urbanists think that legalizing commercial zoning everywhere would result in increased transit usage (hint: that's how American cities are designed, not European ones. Tokyo is essentially laid out the same way as an American city, just with 10 times the density).

The funny thing is that Houston doesn't have zoning. When you point this out, they'll goalpost-move with "but muh parking minimums" (or bring up deeds, which some neighborhoods still have).

Where Houston succeeds is that zoning is created naturally because people tend to not like living near commercial establishments, and commercial establishments favor busier roads. In some cases, you get streets that have been [https://www.google.com/maps/@29.723...entry=ttu]entirely converted to small offices.


In some areas, you can build apartments and townhomes, but the end result is that you just end up running people out and create more sprawl.

Hardly any residential buildings exist on major roads because they're more valuable as commercial space, either demolished or crudely converted into such like what was once an apartment building:


This idea of you can just plop down a commercial establishment in the middle of a side street is unrealistic, because most of these stores require traffic, foot or car, to be seen. There are some exceptions, like this large bicycle shop nestled in a dense residential area but these tend to be the exception rather than the rule, and even a bicycle shop is going to be a niche business that doesn't need to be high-volume to succeed.


Even without zoning, there's almost no "high-volume" places like stores or restaurants that aren't within three blocks of a major road or otherwise part of a shopping district. It just doesn't happen.

 

[Markass the Worst]

(I don't have a Twitter account, so I can't see the whole thread)

Use nitter.poast.org.

 

[IdiotPlusPlus]

I could take some photos but it's insane how much money is put into water drainage infrastructure in Tokyo. It's everywhere you look.

Compare to normal suburbs in Canada, even dense ones, there's not as much need for it since everyone has lawns. Some older suburbs where I live don't even have storm drains, just ditches like a rural area.

That is def one of those 'Tell me you know nothing about densification without saying you know nothing' things that is a red flag for me, over the years our area has been having lots subdivided and the council has had to massively increase the drainage(including basically adding massive storm water pipes under certain streets) to handle all the yard space on properties being shrunk to put up townhouses/duplexes increasing runoff.

It's gotten to the point where we now have council pump trucks who have to come drain storm water sumps(Surge tank might be a better turn) after heavy or extended rain to help keep the system from getting overloaded, something that was unthinkable when it was mainly single house lots 20 years ago.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

They’ll just blame it on climate change, not that the ground cover load has gone from 10% to 80% affecting absorption.

I swear half the things they attribute to climate change are just stupid over densifying

 

[Chuck McGill]

I like him. Too many people try to fight the stupidity using their faggoty language. Resist directly!

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It's truly heartening to see more and more people respond to lefty accusations of [TRANSPHOBIA/BIGOTRY/RACISM/MISOGYNY] with a "yes, and?" One thing that seems to be universally accepted between the right and the left is the implicit assumption that lefties are in fact on the right side of history, and their way is inevitable. Conservatives no longer conserve anything, at best they force ultra-progs to drive the speed limit and wait at least 5 more years before introducing trans toddlers. Libs get gay marriage in by way of Supreme Court, conservatives suddenly stop talking about it since it's the "law of the land".

As such, it's considered to be in poor taste to disagree with leftists too hard, since their school of thought is likely to be the dominant one in time. More and more people seem to be gaining awareness this idea is bullshit, and by implicitly buying into the lefty mindset, you set yourself up for failure from the start.