Japan Indie Live Expo - The indie scene of Japanese vidya

[ToroidalBoat]

Any forced "diversity" or "preachy" crap like in Western vidya?

 

[X Prime]

yuri fest.

Oh, so I'm not crazy for noticing this is a thing now huh?

 

[Poop A Loop]

Almost all of these games look infinitely more interesting than "Gay Vitiliggers Deliver Packages in Space" or "My Parents Made Me Go To Church: Now I Hate Them: Trans Coming Out Edition".

Some of them are obvious Yuri/coomer bait but at least they're nicer to look at than artistic abortions like ValiDate...

 

[Tepes Thot]

I'd take more visual novels over another quirky gay farming game any day.

But overall I think the notion that indies are somehow more innovative is exaggerated. No matter where you look there's a quadrillion Metroidvanias, the only difference is western ones feature tranny niggers in vomitous Calarts-style instead of Japs' anime art that looks AI generated.

I think Japan has an in right now though. If they can pinpoint what we’re missing/asking for in the West, they can clean up. An indie team might have a better chance than their mega-corps.

Cut down on the politics, keep the prices cheaper than $60-$70, if you have to include any of “the message” elements, keep it to a minimum and outweigh it with good story and solid gameplay.

Look at Palworld for example (even though Pokémon is a Japanese brand).

 

[Grub]

ENDER LILLIES: Quietus of the Knights (Metroidvania) -

I tried to get Ender Lillies running on yuzu on my phone a few months ago and it didn't work so I played other shit instead. It looks not too bad. I might try and see if I can getting running on my computer some time. I'd have to use proton so I'll probably pirate it first to see if it'll run. I made the mistake of buying Aeterna Noctis expecting it to just work with proton but I haven't been able to get it running yet. Though I haven't really tried that hard. It didn't work first try or with a couple different proton versions so I just left it and played something else. It runs on Yuzu but with a not great fps but it might be playable I can't remember I know before yuzu had customizable controls it didn't really work because the buttons were all fuckedy.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I think Japan has an in right now though. If they can pinpoint what we’re missing/asking for in the West, they can clean up. An indie team might have a better chance than their mega-corps.

Cut down on the politics, keep the prices cheaper than $60-$70, if you have to include any of “the message” elements, keep it to a minimum and outweigh it with good story and solid gameplay.

Look at Palworld for example (even though Pokémon is a Japanese brand).

I mostly agree but I'm very near zero-tolerance now. Palworld is a good example, the " body type" shit in it made me dismiss it immediately. Such games are at best piracy fodder when they include any of this social engineering.

 

[Mega Black]

Not enough genderqueer tranny blobs in these indie games for me as a strong Latinx woman.

 

[X Prime]

I tried to get Ender Lillies running on yuzu on my phone a few months ago

Why would you run Ender Lillies on an emulator again?

Save 25% on ENDER LILIES: Quietus of the Knights on Steam

ENDER LILIES is a dark fantasy 2D action RPG about unraveling the mysteries of a destroyed kingdom. On this sorrowful journey, encounter horrific enemies against whom a moment of inattention could be fatal. Overcome these hardships and seek the truth with the help of fallen knights.

store.steampowered.com

 

[Grub]

Why would you run Ender Lillies on an emulator again?

Save 25% on ENDER LILIES: Quietus of the Knights on Steam

ENDER LILIES is a dark fantasy 2D action RPG about unraveling the mysteries of a destroyed kingdom. On this sorrowful journey, encounter horrific enemies against whom a moment of inattention could be fatal. Overcome these hardships and seek the truth with the help of fallen knights.

store.steampowered.com

Because I'm lazy and don't feel like taking my computer out most of the time these days.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Thanks for the thread OP. I was going to open with a joke about all Japanese games are weeb trash about underage girls showing their boobs, but it looks like people have said that both ironically and unironically.

NIGHTMARE OPERATOR (Action Horror)

Never heard of this. Going on the wishlist.

I think that’s why Japan’s indie scene hasn’t popped as much as ours, because it looks like the same stagnant offerings.

Possible. But I think the western indie sphere is stagnant as well. How many more metroidvanias, rogue-likes, or walking simulators about depression do we need?

But overall I think the notion that indies are somehow more innovative is exaggerated.

The expectation of innovation has broken. I first noticed this during VR, and it's happening is flatscreen games too. It's easy to look back at the 90s where new genres were being invented, and hardware improvements allowed for mechanics never thought possible.

Some of them are obvious Yuri/coomer bait but at least they're nicer to look at than artistic abortions like ValiDate...

And I'm fine with that. There's this weird attack on things considered low brow, be it sexy stuff or violent stuff, but at the same time people complain how every AAA game is safe homogeneous sludge that is too afraid to offend anyone, or it's political pandering sludge that does nothing but push political correctness.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Almost all of these games look infinitely more interesting than "Gay Vitiliggers Deliver Packages in Space" or "My Parents Made Me Go To Church: Now I Hate Them: Trans Coming Out Edition".

Some of them are obvious Yuri/coomer bait but at least they're nicer to look at than artistic abortions like ValiDate...

Even the ones that don't look as bad as those worst examples just don't look very good. Sea of Stars was praised despite looking pretty ugly, only the backgrounds were fine but still lacked any personality.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I'm just sick if sprite work, especially the SNES tier ones, this art style was already gay a decade ago. It's basically a meme at this point of seeing a cool thumbnail for a game, clicking it and then seeing Atari level graphics. Most of indies fall either into being ripoffs of popular games, or a concept game that can't be meaningfully expanded.

 

[SiccDicc]

I'm just sick if sprite work, especially the SNES tier ones, this art style was already gay a decade ago. It's basically a meme at this point of seeing a cool thumbnail for a game, clicking it and then seeing Atari level graphics. Most of indies fall either into being ripoffs of popular games, or a concept game that can't be meaningfully expanded.

SNES stuff really only works if they have a CRT filter running over them so they look as intended.

 

[Back me up!]

Almost all of these games look infinitely more interesting than "Gay Vitiliggers Deliver Packages in Space" or "My Parents Made Me Go To Church: Now I Hate Them: Trans Coming Out Edition".

Some of them are obvious Yuri/coomer bait but at least they're nicer to look at than artistic abortions like ValiDate...

What I like so far is that even if it is another metroidvania / whatever the Jap's tend to do something either interesting design / art-wise with it. Since we are talking about ENDER Lillies I love that the main character is a 12-ish year old girl instead of a super power solider/etc. She doesn't attack, can only run/jump, and her "dodge" is basically a jump pratfall to desperately get out of the way. She is also the only pure white color on screen so it make her very easy to see her among the action and attacks. Both art style, world building, and actions all fit narratively together to create a seamless interconnected world.

 

[X Prime]

Since we are talking about ENDER Lillies I love that the main character is a 12-ish year old girl

Well that certainly is unfortunate word choice that cannot possibly be taken out of context for comedy purposes.

 

[Back me up!]

Well that certainly is unfortunate word choice that cannot possibly be taken out of context for comedy purposes.

Sigh, and its such a innocent and hopeful game I didn't even think about that crap. And that's coming from something made in Japan that stars a minor!

 

[ZMOT]

Sigh, and its such a innocent and hopeful game I didn't even think about that crap. And that's coming from something made in Japan that stars a minor!

if you immediately think of a running kid SOMEONE WANTS TO FUCK IT, this isn't even the eternal anglo anymore, that's pure burger retardation.

But overall I think the notion that indies are somehow more innovative is exaggerated. No matter where you look there's a quadrillion Metroidvanias, the only difference is western ones feature tranny niggers in vomitous Calarts-style instead of Japs' anime art that looks AI generated.

I'll never understand why some people think a handful of devs who make a game while wageslaving a job that puts food on the table have the budget or manpower to make an indie asscreed.
a certain scope should be expected, this means they're often limited to certain genres and types. I don't even want innovation, I just want a solid game that's fucking fun.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I'll never understand why some people think a handful of devs who make a game while wageslaving a job that puts food on the table have the budget or manpower to make an indie asscreed.
a certain scope should be expected, this means they're often limited to certain genres and types. I don't even want innovation, I just want a solid game that's fucking fun.

Yeah but you can only take many farming and Metroidvania games. You'd be surprised how few competent 2D Mario clones there are, there's plenty of classic Castlevania and Mega Man style ones but I'd be hard pressed to cite some good Mario-like indies. At least I don't know of many. I wish there was some more variety mainly.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

That includes VN’s for all the story segments. Its 2024. We can do better than glorified slideshows.

They have tried before. School Days (the VN) was actually made using actual animations instead of slideshows, and 07th Expansion's games have always had more of a focus on the sound design, allowing them to be more immersive than the average VN. But those examples are so old that they even predate our good old CWC's discovery, so it's true that they've dropped the ball in that deparment.

And now that I think about it, there haven't been any famous VNs made in recent years that go beyond being a glorified hentai (Tsukihime is a remake, it doesn't count)

Witch & Lilies (PC) – Yuri JRPG dungeon-crawler by Stromatosoft

I don't think that a quite literally fake and gay game with scantly-clad underage girls is that innovative for japanese standards

 

[augment]

Can't I just sit here and enjoy my indie jp games alone. I don't give a shit if you hate current year forced diversity troonified crap pixelshit story about abuse. You are acting like those "everything's political" drones who are no longer capable of individual thought.