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President Donald Trump's Secret Service has reportedly detail met with local jail officials ahead of the decision in the NYC trial to prepare if Trump has to go behind bars. The report comes as the judge overseeing the case has ruled that the jurors do not have to agree on the crime that Trump committed.

According to a report from CBS News, Trump's Secret Service detail has met with local New York corrections officials in preparation for the possibility, a New York corrections source told the outlet. Being the 45th president of the United States, Trump has the right to Secret Service protection for the rest of his life. Being put behind bars may complicate the situation if that is the case.
During a May 6 hearing of the trial, Judge Merchan said that he worries "about the people who would have to execute that sanction: the court officers, the correction officers, the Secret Service detail, among others." Merchan has previously threatened Trump with jail time over violations of the gag order placed on Trump. Trump serving jail time, or a sentence of sorts is still uncertain in the case, however, the prospect would be unprecedented.


Former Manhattan prosecutor Duncan Levin told the outlet that Merchan could sentence Trump, if found guilty, to home confinement and a probation period. This would allow Trump to continue to access social media and conduct interviews.


NYC Mayor Eric Adams has stated, "Our amazing commissioner is prepared for whatever comes on Rikers Island."
"I’m pretty sure [the Department of Corrections commissioner] would be prepared to manage and deal with the situation," Adams continued. "As you see what's happening with Harvey Weinstein, we have to adjust, you know, in this business, particularly around law enforcement, we have to adjust whatever comes our way."

Trump has been charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in New York in the case brought by District Attorney Alvin Bragg. The action, which happened in 2016, is usually charged as a misdemeanor and has passed the statute of limitations. However, Bragg increased the charges to felonies, implicating that they were connected to another crime. Merchan ruled the jury does not have to agree on what that crime is, just that another was committed in the case alongside the falsified records charges.
 
The judge didnt tell the jury it didnt have to be unanimous. He told them they didnt have to be unanimous on the "other unstated crime". If anyone hangs it he will rotate them out.

Also anyone who forces a mistrial could easily make half a million to a million dollars in the right wing grifto sphere. Of course you may need that money after the doxxing and cancelling you will get.
So what's the over/under NYC will riot when Trump is found guilty?
 
So what's the over/under NYC will riot when Trump is found guilty?
It's called a peaceful protest.
Depends on who does it.

Liberals commit arson and beat people? "Peaceful protest".

Conservatives trespass in a government building or scream at someone? "Violent terrorist attack."
 
Democrats plan to nominate Biden by virtual roll call to meet Ohio ballot deadline (A)
President Joe Biden will be formally nominated as the Democratic presidential nominee through a virtual roll call ahead of the party’s official convention in Chicago in August — a maneuver that will allow Biden to appear on the November ballot in Ohio and also reduce opportunities for disruptions from protesters.
no stalker child, you will not be given a chance to nominate anyone other than Biden
 
Agreed. There are a lot of low information independents out there who may say “I don’t believe what they say about him but I don’t want four years of chaos either” and will either stay home or vote Biden. There are a lot of people out there who prize stability above all else and if there’s too much angst, they’ll get scared off. Lots of boomers near retirement who are afraid MUH 401K gets impacted if they vote for the option that puts off their retirement another year or two. They will happily vote for Biden if they think their retirement will get fucked with, we saw this in 2016.

Maybe but the current inflation rates and interest rate hikes and gas prices increases are fucking them hard as well.

Plus Trump was great for the stock market

Imagine you're a juror though. The power to jail one of the most powerful people in the world. To be able to say "I changed history." To change the outcome of the election--your vote in November will never be as powerful as this one.

Even for a Trump supporter, the temptation to vote guilty would he overwhelming. Not to mention the fact that there are probably some rabid TDS types on that jury by virtue of where they live. You gotta sit in that room with them screeching and sneeding. Wouldn't it just be easier to go along?

Maybe, maybe not. The odds of a SINGLE Trump supporter on that jury is single digit % points.

Raising the charge from a misdemeanor sank his chances of getting a conviction to begin with, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it's purely a political move. Jurors are not as dumb as others think they are.
Lol they're NYC residents, 90© of them are rapid Democrats who can't WAIT to imprison ORANGE MAN for the rest of his life.
 
His Daughter-in-Law runs the RNC. If they don't nominate Trump, then he failed again at trust. What I'm saying is that its a foregone conclusion Trump will be the RNC's pick.
The RINOs in the RNC won't give up power that easily and they want any angle they can to shut him out.
I guess the Security Detail would keep doing their thing and have eyes on him at all times. But wasn't Congress trying to pass that law to allow them to revoke the security detail from "disgraced" presidents? Seems like the plan would really be to just do that.
'Trying to' being the key words. They don't have the numbers to pass that
If Trump gets convicted for this bullshit I 100% guarantee enough RINOs will flip to get that to pass.
 
If Trump gets convicted for this bullshit I 100% guarantee enough RINOs will flip to get that to pass.
They'd never get re-elected. Remember how costly Shampeachment 2 was for them. Pretty much killed the careers of Lizard Cheney, Crybaby Kinzinger and however many others there were.
RINOs are only effective when you don't know they're RINOs. Voting to have one of the most beloved leaders of the Republican Party's Secret Service detail removed so they can kill him would spell the end for any Republican politically
 
They'd never get re-elected. Remember how costly Shampeachment 2 was for them. Pretty much killed the careers of Lizard Cheney, Crybaby Kinzinger and however many others there were.
RINOs are only effective when you don't know they're RINOs. Voting to have one of the most beloved leaders of the Republican Party's Secret Service detail removed so they can kill him would spell the end for any Republican politically
Getting reelected doesn't matter when they can coast into a cushy do-nothing job as a reward for their good service, and you don't need all of them to vote for it. You just need enough of them to vote for it.
 
Getting reelected doesn't matter when they can coast into a cushy do-nothing job as a reward for their good service
Republicans seek power so they can make money. Removing them from power fucks with their money. High priced consultancy jobs at a think tank, or some tenured position at some ideologically aligned university don't really compare to the kind of money they can make when they wield real power in Congress.
You just need enough of them to vote for it
Having 'just enough' of them vote for something just makes them easier targets.
 
What are you even talking about? This fails to understand extremely basic and fundamental things about communism. It isn't "gibs" because there's no need for a welfare state anymore because capitalists are no longer able to keep surplus value generated by labor. Workers keep all of the value because they also own the machinery and infrastructure to produce. Land and housing is no longer privately owned. So the poverty conditions caused by being stolen from by your employer and charged excessive rent by a group like Blackrock or a fat lazy guy who was born in a suburb and wants a new boat every year doesn't exist to begin with.

E: Lmao, can the geniuses who gave me the sad angry sticker explain? This is the definition of what communism is, if you look up a middle schooler's summary of Capital v 1 this is literally what it says.
Aren't you some schizo that hates the farms?
 
What are you even talking about? This fails to understand extremely basic and fundamental things about communism. It isn't "gibs" because there's no need for a welfare state anymore because capitalists are no longer able to keep surplus value generated by labor. Workers keep all of the value because they also own the machinery and infrastructure to produce. Land and housing is no longer privately owned. So the poverty conditions caused by being stolen from by your employer and charged excessive rent by a group like Blackrock or a fat lazy guy who was born in a suburb and wants a new boat every year doesn't exist to begin with.

E: Lmao, can the geniuses who gave me the sad angry sticker explain? This is the definition of what communism is, if you look up a middle schooler's summary of Capital v 1 this is literally what it says.
You're describing the pipedream of communism. Where at the end of history, the state doesn't exist. So everyone is one and everything is one.

But we will never get there as a species. We're too selfish. And Marxism / Communism always leads to totality leaders. And people fucking die. By the millions. And the idiots who think communism can work, will change minor minute things and try again. It will never work.
 
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