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Filmed today. We spoke for 90 minute about topic. Based on our dresses can you guess what we speak of? I bet you cant's. Mike will edit this one now and it will be an interesting talk with many point of view. Jay discloses an illness of which he may never recover from: Love of sicko films. Mike discusses a past illness he has since recovered from: Love of Star Trek. He no longer loves anything but his red smoking jacket. Mike has taken up the craft of smoking fine cigars in an attempt to die sooner. - Krebs Gorlon

 

[I'm a Silly]

To be honest I will take any chance I can get to repeat that quote. One of the all time greats.

IT'S A BANGER FOR A REASON

 

[Marc]

Major props to Jay and Rich for actually doing a proper review where they talk about things they liked about the movie, talk about the plot, the characters, how it stands among previous movies in the franchise and actually drawing good comparisons with other franchises like with the Kill Bill comparison, and you know just regular movie review stuff that you'd expect from a typical movie review. I can't imagine how exhausting this episode was going to be if we had Kike Stoklasa instead, with his 10 minutes reading of random 1 star reviews or his 20 minutes rant about how he, with his vast amount of experience as a filmmaker and his oh so great knowledge of film making history, would "fix" the movie.

You were supposed to ctrl+v a schizopost from /tv/ about how Mike's absence was the result of a last minute Zoom board meeting deliberately held while Mike was receiving stem cell injections; so he couldn't invoke his majority shareholder status to overrule the decision to exclude him from the Furiosa review and cause him to violate a previous visibility clause he had signed following Jay and Rich having to pay to suppress local articles speculating as to whether his recent lavish trips to Thailand (which had to be scrubbed from his Instagram) coincided with his increased absence from videos (short of the 51% "edited by" credit mandate) and increase of Patreon pay tiers without board approval of CFO Jack Packard. And how, now that Mike is in violation of that clause, he must relinquish 13% of his Chief Creative Officer duties to Rich and Jack; who plan to use their restored clout to revive Pre: Recorded on the main channel, and that Mike's increasing ayahuasca dependency following Jessie's in vitro procedure resulting in a black baby will be used against him in the next quarterly meeting with Macaulay and Elon (who bought out Roiland's shares). Meatball.

 

[Retink Retunk]

There just wasn't any demand for this movie. I think that's the major point. The marketing was gutted by the SAG strikes but they could have pushed back the release date. The biggest problem with the marketing is that they didn't use the Mad Max name. The film should have been called: From the World of Mad Max: Furiosa. Or Mad Max Chronicles: Furiosa. Whatever. You need that Mad Max branding to get asses in seats because no one gives a fuck about a side character from a movie that came out almost ten years ago...

I think Jay and Rich made a good point that it's been too long since Fury Road for this movie to come out. Even if you end up liking Furiosa as a character she's still a side character in a movie that came out a decade ago and probably isn't as memorable as other large franchises because of the scattered story across installments.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Fury Road and Furiosa feel like they were meant to be a reboot to start something bigger but it just took him too damn long to get Furiosa out to capitalize on the idea.

I've seen more interest in an Old Man Max movie with Mel since Furiosa came out, but I'm gauging this based on probably a dozen people only.

 

[GAY DEAD MUPPET GANGBANG]

Drink water.

You know I'm right, that's why you're upset. Thanks for proving my point about the braindead shill NPC fanaticism too. All of you. I'll treasure this reddit gold.

 

[thefreshmaker]

Fury Road and Furiosa feel like they were meant to be a reboot to start something bigger but it just took him too damn long to get Furiosa out to capitalize on the idea.

The original plan was to shoot back to back, budget cuts meant it would be Fury Road then Furiosa around 2017. Before anything could start, George Miller sued Warner Bros. for unpaid wages from FR and that delayed it for the better half of a decade.

Had Warner Bros. not been such cheap skates Furiosa probably would have sold like hot cakes in 2016/7, rather than costing them even more money.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The original plan was to shoot back to back, budget cuts meant it would be Fury Road then Furiosa around 2017. Before anything could start, George Miller sued Warner Bros. for unpaid wages from FR and that delayed it for the better half of a decade.

Had Warner Bros. not been such cheap skates Furiosa probably would have sold like hot cakes in 2016/7, rather than costing them even more money.

No, Warner Bros. was right to be disappointed with Miller. Fury Road underperformed at the box office at $380 million on a $185 million budget. He was initially allotted $150 million, but went over. Then Miller sued for not getting a bonus. Even if we assume $150 million budget is true--which I doubt--2.5X profit margin of it is $375 million, thus leading to 5 million in alleged profit. No bonus to be had really. Maybe it got eaten up by the lawsuit. Regardless, these kinds of budgets are meant to make a billion dollars, which Fury Road did not get close to.

Warner Bros.'s mistake was greenlighting Furiosa at a similar budget. They should have known through past performance that $300-400 million is the realistic expectation and budgeted accordingly.

 

[thefreshmaker]

No, Warner Bros. was right to be disappointed with Miller.

I don't think that's fair when FR released in the same year as The Force Awakens, Jurassic World, Fifty Shades, two Marvel films (including a flagship Avengers), sequels for James Bond, Mission Impossible, Hunger Games, Fast and Furious, etc.

2015 was a huge year for films, and Fury Road released in the same few weeks as Jurassic World, Ultron Avengers and Fast 7. I'm actually amazed it made any kind of money at all. Fury Road was not a box office smash hit, but it was incredibly well received and had a strong home video success, alongside being loved by critics and the audience. As far as a director is concerned, there's not much more you can do than entertain the fickle market. If Warner Bros. was unable to turn that into a box office success, that's really their problem - it's on them to market it and ensure sales.

Warner Bros.'s mistake was greenlighting Furiosa at a similar budget.

I agree with this, but it's fairly on track for Warner Bros. Compared to the other major studios, they always seem to be just barely keeping afloat, spending too much on the wrong things.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

Beyond the Black Void video on the death of the movie theater.

 

[Mikoyan]

Beyond the Black Void video on the death of the movie theater.

I like how the intro has a huge reason why. Minorities using the places as Fight Club.

 

[Mola Ram]

Claiming people only saw Gone With the Wind because so few movies came out back then -- that would be 1939, generally considered the single best year for Hollywood movies, seeing everything from Mr. Smith Goes to Washington to Son of Frankenstein to The Wizard of Oz to ... the list goes on -- is one of those jaw-dropping blind spots these guys occasionally demonstrate.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

Claiming people only saw Gone With the Wind because so few movies came out back then -- that would be 1939, generally considered the single best year for Hollywood movies, seeing everything from Mr. Smith Goes to Washington to Son of Frankenstein to The Wizard of Oz to ... the list goes on -- is one of those jaw-dropping blind spots these guys occasionally demonstrate.

Gone With The Wind was just back in theaters too. And it was fantastic.

 

[I'm a Silly]

the bulk of highest grossing movies are remakes sequels so people say well Hollywood needs to stop making reboots and remakes and sequels and Things based on existing IP blah blah blah blah blah um but the thing is they don't like the the bean counters know that that's where the money's at

the bulk of best selling drugs are lethal narcotics and fent so people say well get these goddamn pushers and doctors and pharma locked up blah blah blah blah blah um but the thing is the the bean counters know that that's where the money's at

Mike's argument, lol

 

[Kit Marz]

I have a lot of fond memories going to the movies as a kid. We had a pretty good dollar theater near us, so we would go fairly frequently to see literally anything. We'd also go the Imax to see the big releases in the summer and winter. Then it was like people lost all etiquette, (I know the answer as to why) loud talking, fighting. I've said previously in this thread about the times I've been physically assaulted in theaters. It's to the point where I have literally no desire to see a movie in a theater ever again.

 

[mlanguishi]

Never a very good sign when Mike whips out notes, unless it's about Star Trek. I started tuning out about 45 min in. Mediocre effort here.

 

[Mikoyan]

Claiming people only saw Gone With the Wind because so few movies came out back then -- that would be 1939, generally considered the single best year for Hollywood movies, seeing everything from Mr. Smith Goes to Washington to Son of Frankenstein to The Wizard of Oz to ... the list goes on -- is one of those jaw-dropping blind spots these guys occasionally demonstrate.

And it would also meet their definition of 'adapted IP'. Unlike Jurassic Park, it was an incredibly popular book in the years just before the movie. Unlike '5%' having read JP, I'd bet it was more like 25% of the adult audience of GWTW.

(I wonder how he classified The Godfather, which was not that big but was big enough that getting the rights was a key highlight of Robert Evans' 'please don't fire me' reel)

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

I like how the intro has a huge reason why. Minorities using the places as Fight Club.

Which I assume they completely avoid talking about because they don't want to look racist.

America will only get better when the nigger cattle issue is dealt with. Get cops to do their fucking jobs and crack some skulls. When the coons riot break their skulls too

 

[Bunny Wigglesworth]

No, Warner Bros. was right to be disappointed with Miller. Fury Road underperformed at the box office at $380 million on a $185 million budget. He was initially allotted $150 million, but went over. Then Miller sued for not getting a bonus. Even if we assume $150 million budget is true--which I doubt--2.5X profit margin of it is $375 million, thus leading to 5 million in alleged profit. No bonus to be had really. Maybe it got eaten up by the lawsuit. Regardless, these kinds of budgets are meant to make a billion dollars, which Fury Road did not get close to.

Warner Bros.'s mistake was greenlighting Furiosa at a similar budget. They should have known through past performance that $300-400 million is the realistic expectation and budgeted accordingly.

Warner had a contract with him that if he delivered it under budget his production company would get a bonus. He did it under budget. Warner then ordered that he reshoot some things that put it 20M - 30M over. Then they said he didn’t fulfill the bonus contract and wasn’t due the $9M or whatever bonus his production company was due. Of course he sued. At some point they must have come to a settlement. Warner Bros‘ mistake was trying to snake a director over a few million dollar bonus because the reshoots they ordered put it in the red.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Was not expecting Adam Jensens VA in a RLM video, but go figure.