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It shouldn't be the standard. Chances of birth complications increase significantly in the early 30's. Having children later is feminist and Jewish propaganda. Roasties poison young women's mind out of spite. Mr jewberg doesn't want employees to have children because childless employees work harder. This is why zuck pays for women to freeze their eggs. Families in the past knew this.

The people I've known who married and have children in their early to mid 20's are some of the happiest people with the healthiest families I know. Most people graduate college by 22. By 25 they should have a couple of years experience and be financially secure enough to start their families. A woman who is willing to work 80 hours a week to "focus on their career" or is on their 6th year of their undergrad is not someone you should consider starting a family with.

This take is expressed solely by 40+ year old incoming divorcees. By this logic the poorest, least educated, third world countries should just be baskets of merriment, since they've got the get-pregnant-early-and-often thing down pat.
 
This take is expressed solely by 40+ year old incoming divorcees. By this logic the poorest, least educated, third world countries should just be baskets of merriment, since they've got the get-pregnant-early-and-often thing down pat.

Third world countries aren't facing population collapse.

I'm not saying kids should get pregnant in their teens. I specifically used the example of a college graduate who has a few years experience working. You're purposely misrepresenting my position.
When I was growing up, parents starting in the mid 20's was the norm. Only recently has geriatric pregnancies (35 or older) been the norm.
 
She's (altough some could argue that she was) basically a capital G grifter that used her similarity to Boxxy to try and get internet clout, and also dated Armored Skeptic while he was married, being very active within the skeptosphere due to this, who then had a falling out with the left a pulled off a 180, becoming a trad mom and all that
So, she's basically a non-black more white Candace Owens, then? 🤔
It shouldn't be the standard. Chances of birth complications increase significantly in the early 30's. Having children later is feminist and Jewish propaganda. Roasties poison young women's mind out of spite. Mr jewberg doesn't want employees to have children because childless employees work harder. This is why zuck pays for women to freeze their eggs. Families in the past knew this.

The people I've known who married and have children in their early to mid 20's are some of the happiest people with the healthiest families I know. Most people graduate college by 22. By 25 they should have a couple of years experience and be financially secure enough to start their families. A woman who is willing to work 80 hours a week to "focus on their career" or is on their 6th year of their undergrad is not someone you should consider starting a family with.
There is definitely biological timeframes involved, especially for women. But the weird push by many religious conservatives to have everyone squirt out kids by 25 is insane, especially post-Great Recession. In case you haven't noticed, the economy has kinda been in the shitter for alot of people for the past 15 years or so. Sure, the "American dream" of a wife, house with a picket fence, and 2.5 kids is all well and good, but I would argue that waiting a bit longer for relationship and financial stability is more important than an arbitrary mid-20s starting point.
 
Looks like @Null was right again. Every woman, even shoe, wants to be a mother.
I've encountered way too many "modern, skrong independence womyn" who trash talk marriage, say they're "married to themselves" or that "men are all pigs", only to find out that years later, these bitches ended up getting married and having children, and often "praise" motherhood and married life. It's rather comical. Deep down, all women seek long-term relationships and motherhood to some extent. IDK why the (((media))) has been telling me "modern women" are thinking otherwise, but (((they))) do what they do best.

Anyways, seeing sh0e go from Boxxy wannabe to full on married mother is something I never expected. But many of the people the farms has threads on are also parents/spouses. If the farms are still up years from now, I hope the child sees and reads this thread lol.
 
There is definitely biological timeframes involved, especially for women. But the weird push by many religious conservatives to have everyone squirt out kids by 25 is insane, especially post-Great Recession. In case you haven't noticed, the economy has kinda been in the shitter for alot of people for the past 15 years or so. Sure, the "American dream" of a wife, house with a picket fence, and 2.5 kids is all well and good, but I would argue that waiting a bit longer for relationship and financial stability is more important than an arbitrary mid-20s starting point.
Financial stability is never coming back, and even if it did, it's no guarantee of anything, DINKs are a thing for a reason. I may be biased, since I basically made half of the post in the Plummeting Birthrates watch thread, but really most people will try to delay having kids for as long as pissible mainly because it forces them to actually change their statu quo
 
What are the odds that she troons the kid out by 5 years old?
I doubt that, but who knows in this age. I'd bet she does it in phases. As a child, it starts out with being effeminate or masculine (depending on the child's gender) and then slowly builds up until they're troon-idenifying by their teens a la Ben Affleck's daughter (Seraphina Rose, now Finn).
 
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There is definitely biological timeframes involved, especially for women. But the weird push by many religious conservatives to have everyone squirt out kids by 25 is insane, especially post-Great Recession.
Its not a religious thing. It was a norm for everyone in the not so distant past
In case you haven't noticed, the economy has kinda been in the shitter for alot of people for the past 15 years or so. Sure, the "American dream" of a wife, house with a picket fence, and 2.5 kids is all well and good, but I would argue that waiting a bit longer for relationship and financial stability is more important than an arbitrary mid-20s starting point.
Yeah the economy is bad right now, but just a few years ago we were in the longest bullrun in history. People were in better financial situations that ever before and they still weren't having kids. The problem I have with that reasoning is that theres many people who are in their 30's and 40'ths with great careers who want kids but are still waiting. Even amongst my friends who are in the mid 30'th age bracket, the number one reason to have kids is because they fear they are getting old. Its not some magic switch in maturity or finances. Waiting pushes people to make hasty decisions due to the biological time limit rather than planning out their life.
 
geriatric pregnancies (35 or older)
I cannot take anything you are spouting in good faith because of that alone. :story:

Nigga read a dictionary.

Edit to correct myself, it turns out I needed to read the dictionary and this is in fact a medical term. :(

I still think this is a retarded opinion to have though.
 
It shouldn't be the standard. Chances of birth complications increase significantly in the early 30's. Having children later is feminist and Jewish propaganda. Roasties poison young women's mind out of spite. Mr jewberg doesn't want employees to have children because childless employees work harder. This is why zuck pays for women to freeze their eggs. Families in the past knew this.

The people I've known who married and have children in their early to mid 20's are some of the happiest people with the healthiest families I know. Most people graduate college by 22. By 25 they should have a couple of years experience and be financially secure enough to start their families. A woman who is willing to work 80 hours a week to "focus on their career" or is on their 6th year of their undergrad is not someone you should consider starting a family with.
The reason people don't have kids much is because having kids kind of sucks for a lot of people, and its worse if you have a busy working life. The younger people who have kids probably simply really want them compared to the average person which is why they can seem well adjusted for it, but even then, based on my anecdotal experiences which, lets face it, are just better than your anecdotal experiences, when I see families with young parents they are far more likely to be visibly dysfunctional and miserable.

Da Jooz didn't do that to you ya gigantic retard (Non-Orthodox Jews in America have pretty much the same birthrate as other groups of comparable income level, Orthodox Jews are more like insular Christian or Muslim cults in being extremely conservative and treating women more like broodmares, hence higher birthrates https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/jewish-demographics/)
 
Its not a religious thing. It was a norm for everyone in the not so distant past

Yeah the economy is bad right now, but just a few years ago we were in the longest bullrun in history. People were in better financial situations that ever before and they still weren't having kids. The problem I have with that reasoning is that theres many people who are in their 30's and 40'ths with great careers who want kids but are still waiting. Even amongst my friends who are in the mid 30'th age bracket, the number one reason to have kids is because they fear they are getting old. Its not some magic switch in maturity or finances. Waiting pushes people to make hasty decisions due to the biological time limit rather than planning out their life.
Having kids and providing them with a good education and upbringing while remaining financially stable is harder now than it used to be. People who hold your opinion seem to be clueless on the real financial cost and time investment involved in raising children. If the woman is a stay at home mother, it becomes a single-income household. How many people do you think are capable of raising a couple kids on a single income? Hint: not many. If the woman returns to work after maternity leave or a couple years, the parents will be entrusting their kid to the public school system and still having to pay for things like childcare and extra-curriculars. To say nothing of sending the kids to college.

There are also just people who don't want to buckle down and be mature, so they put off having kids until their late 30s/early 40s, but those people seem to be in the minority.

The term "geriatric pregnancy" is misleading. Women who give birth over the age of 35 are more likely to have complications, but for a lot of women that's not a big uptick in risk. The real deterrent is the exhaustion of carrying the baby for 9 months and then caring for an infant when you don't have as much energy as you used to.

Anyway I'm glad for Shoe, and I hope she straightens out at least a little bit.
 
Picked at last.

Also Greg is in the running for fumbling hardest in life. Big repudiation of redpill nonsense where women are doomed past 30 but men can fuck around forever.
Good on him for starting a family? How is that fumbling anything. That's winning.
Having kids and providing them with a good education and upbringing while remaining financially stable is harder now than it used to be. People who hold your opinion seem to be clueless on the real financial cost and time investment involved in raising children.
How many kids do you have? I have enough that I had to buy a minivan.

It's not really that hard with me just assuming you bought a house or have a rent controlled apartment before the recent insane spike in real estate prices. People get by with low income with the help of family support of course -- but I find generally people will be very happy to help and insulted if you refuse, we refused all form of "baby shower" gift but people were very willing to just buy anything to help out and grandparents love to be around kids.
There are also just people who don't want to buckle down and be mature, so they put off having kids until their late 30s/early 40s, but those people seem to be in the minority.
Anecdotally that's not what I see. I see a lot more manchild / arrested development type behavior especially affecting affluent young women.

I frequently tell people it's better to have kids when you are young and have lots of energy. The ability to stay awake all night at a rave is really there for 20 year olds to be up all night with cranky babies.
 
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