DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

Where is DSP?

  • He is in Connecticut visiting family/funeral

    Votes: 213 47.9%
  • He and Khet are on a honeymoon style trip

    Votes: 12 2.7%
  • He has an issue (s) with the HOA requiring immediate fixes

    Votes: 27 6.1%
  • Comcast/ISP/Internet Issues

    Votes: 16 3.6%
  • He is taking a Kino Casino style break by not announcing when he comes back

    Votes: 30 6.7%
  • Phil and/or Khet Health Issue

    Votes: 48 10.8%
  • This is a social experiment from DSP

    Votes: 99 22.2%

  • Total voters
    445
  • Poll closed .
Phil didn't fall out of thouch with Howard and Rambo, he alienated them, trying to force them to work for him, which he still does today, the only thing tat has really changed about him is that he looks much older than he is.
It us great that he has recorded so much of his past, it makes it harder for him to lie about it, which he so often tries to do.
And the funny part is that Rambo for example still does movie projects together with Andre. And he looks not as old as Phil. And who knows I bet Phil still drunken tweets at John from time to time (or does gin texts) because he wants Rambo to come back ackackack.
And to think this only came from 1 full day of "bad streaming". Reminder: he still made over 80$ that day with Multiversus and Hades 2 (ignore the superchats and non-Argentinian memberships) This money for as he called himself "rinky-dink" streamer is way too much. I doubt Meerkat who has over 1k viewers when he restreams Phil makes that money during his streaming session. Phil is very lucky he has some dedicated mouth drooling dentheads supporting him. Otherwise he would live with Mommy and Daddy again complaining how life sucks. Good thing his reACK day made him more money. And that is probably the reason he will never change because his cult is basically conditioned to throw him money whenever he scolds them. I really want Phil to have a full week with 0$ in tips (and every otzher donation as well). Just to see the delicious panic sweat from every pore. He is god damn priviliged to make this much for the shit he produces. On the other hand: we have one of the biggest slow bruning dumpster fires to watch and we all want to see how it ends
 
Thing is, a lot of the choices Phil makes as a streamer do make sense, in a twisted and really dumb way. But this last shareholders meeting was an absolute disaster. It's not a 9 to 5. Even if it was, good fucking luck convincing your employer that "These things take time". This is absolutely the era of instant gratification, not just for common people and specially not just for kids and teens any more. Take ten minutes longer than average to do something and your ass is out the door in most jobs. Your employer was already looking into automation and outsourcing to begin with. At least there will be an immigrant happy to do what you're doing for half the pay and twice the hours. It's fucked up, and Phil's in a really privileged position where he's basically his own boss, so it's amazing that he's willing to risk that and put the screws to the dents because he can't be fucked to be a slightly more conventionally appealing streamer.


- Ban off topic conversation. Pros, it'll make it easy to keep commentary going without getting mentally sidetracked. Cons, you'll never grow a community because you'll only get diehard dents and the occasional normie gawker who'll bail with the quickness once he figures out what it's about.

- I always play on normal. Pros, it'll make it easier to look competent and you'll only have to mash buttons rather than think. Cons, everyone and their mom is doing challenge runs nowadays because singleplayer content is generally better played oneself than watched online. Even if you do want to watch a playthrough for whatever reason, the big three got you covered with max quality, and gameplay that ranges from okay to fairly competent. Usually days before release. Shirrako, MKIceAndFire, GamersLittlePlayground. And of course when it turns out you suck anyway on fucking NORMAL, people, once again, close that window and leave.

- I play what I want to play when I want to play. Pros, more silk and cottons for the pigroach, cons, if people are really looking forward to let's say fightcade and you pull the rug, those people aren't coming back. Doing BG3 a year after release and taking ages to finish it is a moot point when the playthrough has been finished for months.

- Making things about the games rather than the streamer. This one's a little weirder because it's just setting up the "I did nothing wrong" later. It has no pros. Specially if you're gonna play like Phil, months late and slow as fuck. Games tend to get the most attention on release day. Streamers can get attention for themselves. Problem is, if you deliberately make it about the games, much like the big three, you'd have to bring your A game and finish it within three days at the latest. No other reasons to watch a game other than the streamer.

- Anti-cancel strats, Norman Rockwellesque vibes, married with a catson persona. This is just for the ads. Thing is, Phil is at his best when he's going full ragepig. That's entertaining. Him sucking is entertaining. It's funny because he's amazingly kept this facet of his streams. Most streamers who have been at it a while get some skill bleed from the few games they're good at to begin with into the rest of things they tackle, learn more about the games, and rage less in part because they start git'n gud and in part because they start understanding what they could or could not have done to prevent shit. Sometimes you get an explosion in let's say, Fallout 4 survival because they got the car glitch that kills your ass dead for just jumping on a car and they lost 3 hours of progress, but it's not like they're gonna smash their keyboard over a Fortnite loss when they got destroyed by one of the event weapons that kills in two shots and they only had a basic pistol. Phil still gets assmad like the first fucking day and has, in fact, gotten WORSE over time. Why he doesn't exploit this goldmine, I dunno.

- No multiplayer streams. Pros, no more LutherKujos or Brians stealing the show. Cons, what is the fucking point of livestreaming if you don't interact with your audience? Believe me, it's one of the very few things people want. Being in a streamer's squad is fun, specially if his gamer cred is good. Even Wings has open lobbies on occasion. Phil's sticking to a dying streaming business model mostly doing singleplayer shit at his pace and with his personality. Fightcade with the Dents would be a smash hit, but he refuses to do it because he probably knows PoP and some other detractors would get on and whoop his ass at his beloved sooper toorboe, proving that he was always a fraud.

Problem is, my pigga, you're in entertainment. You cater to regular people on their time off. If someone honestly tells you they'd watch Fightcade now and slip you 50 bucks a month for it, think of it as Pricey Pigflix, you better fucking listen and not duck it because you'll be embarassed, if you want the money, that is. You need to provide people with something they enjoy watching. We're not starving for choice. Hell, there's three million companies vying for our available screentime. Even more options if you count the more normie entertainment choices like travelling, going out, films, dancing, all that shit. If you're not providing what people want when people want it, I guarantee you someone out there is.

It's a very competitive business. The hardest part is usually getting your foot in the door. Phil has it, but his adamant refusal to do anything with his maxed out luck is going to be his eventual downfall. Of course, this is a fuckwit that turned down 50K for a podcast, so good luck getting him to swim for his life for 100 bucks. Fucker probably expects to be carried to shore by the beefcake lifeguard. And then given the money anyway.

"People moved on; Dumbest thing I ever heard!" This is actually unhinged. What does he expect? People should fucking put their lives on hold and wait for 5+ years for him to get his polack ass whooped on fightcade? Or people who were expecting the Texas Chainsaw Game back in Halloween, because it was multiplayer, should turn up when you finally get around to it maybe in July or Halloween of the next year, when the game's already dead? My guy, people have shit to do outside sitting in Dent Daycare. Very few adults have the absolute assload of time necessary to keep up with a SINGLE one of your feature length prestream copecasts or massively stalled out, seven piss break streams. Watch your business evolution. There's a fucking reason even the most popular posters here used to be people with a good mockery and finance speculation game, yet turned over time to snarky recappers and money trackers. And they all hate your fucking guts now, except for maybe Jimi, who doesn't seem like the type to hate anything.

I can't imagine Phil's reasoning, but I'll try: "I used to be a disgusting begging pigroach who also massively sucked at games so now I cherry pick the easiest, most babbymode, often straight up made for kids games so it appears I suck less: No need to change the pigroach part. Surely people will love me now and I'll be the second, goutier, more haggard coming of Max Dood!". And because he has no friends, no family, and his roommate is a Fat Potat too benzo'd out to give a fuck about anything, nobody tells him it's the Pigroachism most people have a problem with. The sucking at games was fun! It was entertaining! Why'd you cut THAT out and keep nothing but the WORST part?

There's no mystique to Phil any more. We know where the money goes. We know his wife's a landwhale. We know he sucks at games. Give the dents some suspense. "Will Phil manage to beat Fallout 4 over the course of many months on Normal?" The answer is of fucking course, yes he will, he's got two hands and a very weathered quicksave-quickload button. Those are the prerrequisites. Literally anyone could do it. The story isn't new so there's 0 reason to watch a playthrough and the personality you bring to it is non-existent. The ONLY appeal is rage.

Same thing with the rest of his current game selection. "Will Phil manage to hit Master in SF6 but on a NEW platform?" Yes, the game funnels you over there so you can just slowly grind your way. Most people are at Master, in fact. Master is just the fancy name they gave Silver division, essentially. "Will Phil manage to beat Senua's 2?" Yes, it's piss easy one difficulty stuff and he's giving himself infinite retries. It's a matter of time. I'm sure he sucked at it, but I'm sure he beat it.

"Will Phil get his ass beat viciously on Fightcade? Will Phil and his Dent Squad manage to climb all the way to (Carried) Diamond on the new CoD season? Can Phil actually win a Street Fighter 6 tournament? Can Phil reach top ranks on Ranked Multiversus? Could good ol' EVO East champion Philippo Burnelli beat Fallout 4 on Survival?" Now that'd be some fucking cinema. It's not about whining that your dents aren't opening up their velcro wallets hard enough, it's about giving them something with some actual entertainment value. No stakes, no fun, no money. Simple as that. Easier on the ol' ginbrain, though, I do get that.

Look, games nowadays suck. It's to the point where every other game is made in either Unity or Unreal and it's legit hard to even tell one of these apart from all the rest. Specially since 2 out of 5 new games are an Asian Soulslike. There is absolutely no reason to cover the conveyor belt slop of samey AAA tripe when emulation has gotten so good you can literally play PS2 and PS3 games online. The only way forward nowadays is either multiplayer or challenge runs. Anyone can beat games on Normal. Playing on Normal is fine if you just want to enjoy a game for your downtime, but as a streamer with 20 years of experience, playing only the easiest games available only on normal is fucking atrocious.

Streaming's gotta have some struggle and some suspense. Healspamming your way through Yasnooza games on Very Normal is gonna get significantly less views than No Damage Legend runs, for pretty obvious reasons. Multiplayer audiences typically don't expect you to challenge yourself like that, but they'll expect you to interact. I'm sure his luck stat grows exponentially to meet his incompetence growing at about the same rate. It really is a wonder he still keeps a modest audience with how intentionally unwatchable he's made himself over the last few years since Yakuza LAD buckbroke him. But surely he realizes he can't keep this "Chill streaming" shit up for ever and just get mad at the dents for not bankrolling his nontent for months at a time. He's gotten desperate and caved in to multi demands before. I suppose DesperateSidePhil will come around again sooner rather than later and we'll actually get some gold dust.

Good. Been a slow few months.
 
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Something I've noticed over the years of listening to Dave's rants, it's so obvious when he finds some new phrase he thinks is funny or cool and repeats it to no end. Just this morning he kept repeating how spoiled people were or specifically people wanted "instant gratification". Seriously he said this probably over a dozen times. I wonder if he saw this phrase on twitter or heard it in a video and now he's using it to fit his own fucked narrative in his head. Either that or I'm reading wayyy to much into it
Phil really is the equivalent of that five-year-old who learns a new word and spams it nonstop to appear smart.
 
For a while i have had thoughts about creating a thread for another lolcow named 6ARAKIN and been on and off going through some of his things and now came across this.
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Quite honestly this is a match i would not mind see Phil win, mainly because 6ARAKIN would take it far more seriously than Phil would ever do, Phil wouldn't care of he won or lost it, while 6ARAKIN would rage so much over losing it, he's like a old school LTG.

As far as i can tell this is the only time 6ARAKIN have approached Phil.
 
Phil lies. Whenever he opens his mouth you can be sure he will tell a lie. Like saying that one journalist called the people who tweeted him "mentally ill children" when it was never the case (that one from 2015) And said journlaist even shot back and corrected the record! And this is the main reason (take note Joon) why he is so despised.

Also, for posperity sake, here is a short summary of Phil's newest meltdown

 
Phil didn't fall out of thouch with Howard and Rambo, he alienated them, trying to force them to work for him, which he still does today, the only thing tat has really changed about him is that he looks much older than he is.
It is great that he has recorded so much of his past, it makes it harder for him to lie about it, which he so often tries to do.
He can only live through cope.

"Hey Phil, isn't it sad to see this old gameplay when you had friends to play with? Now even your wife doesn't play with you on a stream, and the only living creature that can stand you is a cat that you call your son? You have so much fear of be insulted that even when you find some dent to play with you do not use voice chat."

"I change, I'm happy, I'm successful"
 
Wildest shit about his rant, actually kinda makes me MATI, is that he's not even using instant gratification properly.

If I work, (or get my SSI check) and I'm paying for entertainment. I already did my waiting. Why the fuck would I not then spend my money on something that gives me gratification. That's the entire point of spending money on entertainment.

I don't buy a game or watch a movie with the hopes that the next expansion or sequel is entertaining. I pay money for gratification. That's the sole purpose of entertainment. Unless it's a hobby where you learn a skill you probably want to be immediately entertained. If you're donating to a streamer you probably want an immediate reaction or sense of community.
 
Wildest shit about his rant, actually kinda makes me MATI, is that he's not even using instant gratification properly.

If I work, (or get my SSI check) and I'm paying for entertainment. I already did my waiting. Why the fuck would I not then spend my money on something that gives me gratification. That's the entire point of spending money on entertainment.

I don't buy a game or watch a movie with the hopes that the next expansion or sequel is entertaining. I pay money for gratification. That's the sole purpose of entertainment. Unless it's a hobby where you learn a skill you probably want to be immediately entertained. If you're donating to a streamer you probably want an immediate reaction or sense of community.
The thing that made me more MATI about that particular part of the rant is that Phil is accusing an entire group of people of being dopamine fiends who only want instant gratification, when he is a spoiled manbaby who wants all things NOW NOW NOW! Food? Doordash. Send shitty plastic utensils too because him and the big bitch are so lazy that they can't clean 2 sets of cutlery after they're done devouring. Entertainment? Gacha, input money to get a sweaty man NOW NOW NOW! Jahb? He wants to get paid for every little thing he does, twice a day. I can't imagine Phil functioning at a real Big Boy Job anymore because he'd have to not blow his load immediately after he gets a paycheck, which from what I know about the US most people get paid every other week. Imagine if he lived in a country where you only get paid once a month.

It all makes sense once you realize that insults from a narcissist are very likely to be confessions, especially the more bizarre and specific they become. Namely from yesterday's spergout when he started blaming his problems on those gosh darn kids in the current generation he mentioned how they're so spoiled that their mommies need to brush their hair for them, SOMETHING HE HIMSELF ADMITTED LINDA DID FOR HIM WHEN HE WAS 16 YEARS OF AGE!
 
And the funny part is that Rambo for example still does movie projects together with Andre.
Are you sure on that, I think if rambo were doing movie projects today, wed know about it.
the last major one is the film he directed that seems like it could be a metaphor for a washed up old streamer like Phil.
 
He can only live through cope.

"Hey Phil, isn't it sad to see this old gameplay when you had friends to play with? Now even your wife doesn't play with you on a stream, and the only living creature that can stand you is a cat that you call your son? You have so much fear of be insulted that even when you find some dent to play with you do not use voice chat."

"I change, I'm happy, I'm successful"
He tries so hard to hide that everything he expected from the move to Renton has failed or never come close to materialise, he left everything that made him "successful" in CT.

I'd love to see Phil answer the questions: Why do you think you deserve to make double/triple/4x what a teacher makes? Why do you think you deserve to make more than nurses make?

I know his answers would be amazing.
He deserves it because his streams, unlike other streamers, are informal and he stays to actual facts when he talks about things and he is street smart instead of booksmart, meanwhile he makes meaningful content that makes people happy and helps them deal with their depression, which he knows everything about.
 
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