Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

[Gingervitis]

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“My mexican, spanish-teaching, immigrant dad always says that grammar’s not as important when you’re trying to communicate.”

Actually, this whole debacle shows why grammar is important. Not only does it remove ambiguities (“Why are you eating a hot dog wearing a tuxedo?!” “This hot dog isn’t wearing a tuxedo.”), but it lets you know who has a sophisticated grasp on the English language, who you can have a normal conversation with, who struggles because of a learning disability or because they’re ESL, and who does the idiot jobs like stripping, retail, or dealing drugs

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

“My mexican, spanish-teaching, immigrant dad always says that grammar’s not as important when you’re trying to communicate.”

Actually, this whole debacle shows why grammar is important. Not only does it remove ambiguities (“Why are you eating a hot dog wearing a tuxedo?!” “This hot dog isn’t wearing a tuxedo.”), but it lets you know who has a sophisticated grasp on the English language, who you can have a normal conversation with, who struggles because of a learning disability or because they’re ESL, and who does the idiot jobs like stripping, retail, or dealing drugs

Grammar is important but when you are still learning it's less important than trying despite knowing you will sound like a fool. The best way to learn a language is to use it, as early and as often as possible. You will not learn something as complicated as a language without going trough the awkward phase where you are at best going to sound like a simpleton and most likely will make many many missteps and mistakes.

 

[Gingervitis]

Grammar is important but when you are still learning it's less important than trying despite knowing you will sound like a fool. The best way to learn a language is to use it, as early and as often as possible. You will not learn something as complicated as a language without going trough the awkward phase where you are at best going to sound like a simpleton and most likely will make many many missteps and mistakes.

Of course. But there’s a difference between a mistake even normal people make in their day to day lives (me and ___ vs ___ and I, the oxford comma, etc), an ESL person making a good few missteps while learning the language, and a bunch of white kids saying boo because some antique farming equipment couldn’t pronounce beau. “Oye Primos” is the latter

 

[Dr. Butt]

idiot jobs like stripping, retail, or dealing drugs

I think that last one's a bit harder that the first two.

 

[Gingervitis]

I think that last one's a bit harder that the first two.

Counterpoint- have you ever met a stripper that made good life decisions? The answer is no, because the fact that they’re stripping proves they make bad choices. This isn’t even like retail, where some high school/college kid or retiree takes it to make some extra money on the side. If damn near everyone, regardless their economic status, career path, gender, or political affiliation looks down on your job, and you can’t explain to a layman why said job is necessary, it’s an idiot job

 

[Dr. Butt]

Counterpoint- have you ever met a stripper that made good life decisions? The answer is no, because the fact that they’re stripping proves they make bad choices. This isn’t even like retail, where some high school/college kid or retiree takes it to make some extra money on the side. If damn near everyone, regardless their economic status, career path, gender, or political affiliation looks down on your job, and you can’t explain to a layman why said job is necessary, it’s an idiot job

I said the LAST one's a harder job than the first two.

 

[Gingervitis]

I said the LAST one's a harder job than the first two.

Oh.

I’m not retarded, I swear

 

[greenthrowaway]

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It's amazing how therapy toons keep on getting greenlit. In almost every other medium, the pitch is about what is exciting to the reader/viewer. In this industry, it seems the pitch is about what excites and represents the creator. What kid gets excited about some project that aligns with some LA nobody's lived experience that isn't even that interesting?

 

[chalkyresidue]

“My mexican, spanish-teaching, immigrant dad always says that grammar’s not as important when you’re trying to communicate.”

Actually, this whole debacle shows why grammar is important. Not only does it remove ambiguities (“Why are you eating a hot dog wearing a tuxedo?!” “This hot dog isn’t wearing a tuxedo.”), but it lets you know who has a sophisticated grasp on the English language, who you can have a normal conversation with, who struggles because of a learning disability or because they’re ESL, and who does the idiot jobs like stripping, retail, or dealing drugs

Boggles the mind that they think that the bar odd set no higher for a student taking a foreign language class than a piece of media that’s supposed to be ready for prime time.

 

[NoReturn]

While I doubt everything being said here, I hate to admit, there is some truth from what I've experienced/heard. This is more for 2nd/3rd generation immigrant kids as they don't really have much experience of native culture/language outside of extended family like grandparents. I've heard how they feel judged in communities for not knowing the language or culture and in turn, they feel have to prove it.
This scene sums it up nicely.

That being said, chimping out about the criticism, calling Spanish a colonizer language, and naming the town terremoto heights killed any and all goodwill it had. If it had any to begin with.

The Mexican-American experience is truly nuanced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYHcgsG4k7g

 

[Life is Hell...]

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So many self inserts these days...

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

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So many self inserts these days...

Wasn't "guy dressed as Catwoman" a joke in Simpsons? Is this faggots sexualising a Simpsons joke?
(I am disinclined to believe that really happened)

 

[Jormungand]

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So many self inserts these days...

Keep in mind Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwomen looks like this.

Apparently, his mom was perfectly fine with him dressing up like this when he was a kid, and people wonder why the animation industry is full of broken human beings.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

"Gawd I'm such a gay boy, I'm making children's stories for my child self 'cause I totally needed the validation back then like I do now. Also your child's gay now for watching my show uwu all according to keikaku."

 

[Life is Hell...]

"Gawd I'm such a gay boy, I'm making children's stories for my child self 'cause I totally needed the validation back then like I do now. Also your child's gay now for watching my show uwu all according to keikaku."

Considering what happens in the actual episode

It just makes it extremely creepy knowing that this guy would essentially make his own self-insert OC, just to ship himself with a character that is years younger than him...

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[The Grimace]

Considering what happens in the actual episode

It just makes it extremely creepy knowing that this guy would essentially make his own self-insert OC, just to ship himself with a character that is years younger than him...
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Do kids actually watch this shit?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Considering what happens in the actual episode

It just makes it extremely creepy knowing that this guy would essentially make his own self-insert OC, just to ship himself with a character that is years younger than him...
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Dude should've just kept that bit of info to himself, that's fucking creepy.

 

[Peru oso donas]

Considering what happens in the actual episode

It just makes it extremely creepy knowing that this guy would essentially make his own self-insert OC, just to ship himself with a character that is years younger than him...
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They gave a shit ton of crap to that PPG reboot guy for doing the exact same shit, yet i haven't seen a single comment about this guy, is it because he is a fag? Or because no one gives 2 shits about craig of the creek?

 

[Harm]

They gave a shit ton of crap to that PPG reboot guy for doing the exact same shit, yet i haven't seen a single comment about this guy, is it because he is a fag? Or because no one gives 2 shits about craig of the creek?

Probably the latter, and it's also a new IP instead of some pervert sexualizing a reboot of a beloved classic (even if the reboot was trash, iirc the only episodes that freak contributed were ALL about him dating Blossom).

 

[vomitusdeux]

Or because no one gives 2 shits about craig of the creek?

I wrote it off as blander than steven universe and just never watched it, never paid any attention to it, and this, is my first real exposure to it outside of a commercial or two and all I know is I made the right choice.