Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

That's how you know these people are full of shit because Return of the Jedi wasn't even bad, and Empire wasn't that good. They're both 8/10. Star Wars has always been plagued with weirdos and lunatics.
Just a reminder: In their review for the film, RedLetterMedia actually fucking said that The Force Awakens was better than Return of the Jedi.

Just...remember that anytime anyone tries to treat them like ANY credible authority on Star Wars. Or films in general.
 
Just a reminder: In their review for the film, RedLetterMedia actually fucking said that The Force Awakens was better than Return of the Jedi.

Just...remember that anytime anyone tries to treat them like ANY credible authority on Star Wars. Or films in general.
Of course they'd love TFA. Disney's Lucasfilm listened to RLM's criticisms when making it. They saw it as an improvement because it was their criticisms that Disney and JJ drew inspiration from. Make it resemble ANH, avoid politics and worldbuilding, stuff like that. Their ''love'' for ANH and the OT was superficial at best, false at worst, especially when TFA nullified anything from the OT and made the heroes victories count for nothing.

Ironically, TFA made it so that the only films that had any permanent effect were the Prequels. The Republic is overthrown and is replaced by an Empire. Which makes it even funnier that RLM loves TFA so much.

He does that a lot, the only thing he remembered is Anakin & Grievous never met until RotS and everything else got thrown out the window.
He forgot that Grievous never met Kenobi either before ROTS. Hence why Grievous has to actually tell Kenobi that Dooku taught him how to wield a lightsaber, which is somewhat of a threat since Dooku kicked Kenobi's ass twice.

The whole anti-Ewok thing was the result of older Gen-X guys being teenagers in the years after RotJ when Lucasfilm started pushing Ewoks as to the exclusion of everything else aside from the RPG which would have been the domain of turbonerds who were way more into it than the general fanbase, and outside of that I imagine that a lot of the people who grew up with the films had reached that point in their lives where anything childish becomes poison so they were obliged to hate the film because it of its kid-friendly elements. I think it's the exact same sentiment that caused the fan backlash against TPM when it came out since it also had blatant kid appeal elements that made all the people who wanted edgy Jedi killing everyone films blow a fuse and turn on the films instantly.
These people want Star Wars to be Warhammer 40K, which is why things like Ewoks and the kid appeal elements of TPM annoy them.

To be fair, the SWEU more than made up for it in that regard, what with the New Jedi Order series and the KOTOR/SWTOR series serving up that mature space war epic.
 
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Darth Baras declared exterminatus on every diet store in the galaxy.
He massacred an entire McDonalds because his McNuggets 10-pack only had 6 nuggets inside.

The kid appeal is generally not a great way to go with adult nerds. Fortunately for Jar Jar, Disney made sure that he is remembered as a great character, by comparison.
Exactly. That's why you have series like the KOTOR/SWTOR stuff and the New Jedi Order books. Although, to be fair, the latter kinda pissed off the fans too, if anything because they thought it got too dark, whereas KOTOR/SWTOR media just had the appropriate amount of darkness and light-hearted comedy. Yes, you have the grimdark atmosphere and feel with the Sith and everything they touch, but outside of that, you have humorous things here and there, like Bastila getting flustered with male Revan's taunting, the Bounty Hunter in SWTOR making a Jedi look like an idiot for using a mind trick, and the entire Smuggler SWTOR story.
 
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Just a reminder: In their review for the film, RedLetterMedia actually fucking said that The Force Awakens was better than Return of the Jedi.

Just...remember that anytime anyone tries to treat them like ANY credible authority on Star Wars. Or films in general.
Funny how RLM is treated as Gospel when it's about the prequels, but no one ever wants to talk about their Sequel reviews. Very amusing.
 
Funny how RLM is treated as Gospel when it's about the prequels, but no one ever wants to talk about their Sequel reviews. Very amusing.
Or Matrix Resurrection, or Obi-Wan Kenobi....which, I shit you not, contain some of the single dumbest Neanderthal takes on media and storytelling I think I've ever beheld on my life. Worse than anything they've opined on the Prequels.

But it's pointless bringing any of these things up to the sheep who swear by their media insight--a lot of these people are the same blind shills who raced out to buy Space Cop on Blu-Ray.
 
Or Matrix Resurrection, or Obi-Wan Kenobi....which, I shit you not, contain some of the single dumbest Neanderthal takes on media and storytelling I think I've ever beheld on my life. Worse than anything they've opined on the Prequels.

But it's pointless bringing any of these things up to the sheep who swear by their media insight--a lot of these people are the same blind shills who raced out to buy Space Cop on Blu-Ray.
Hey! I bought Space Cop on Blu-Ray! It... It was disappointing.
 
He forgot that Grievous never met Kenobi either before ROTS. Hence why Grievous has to actually tell Kenobi that Dooku taught him how to wield a lightsaber, which is somewhat of a threat since Dooku kicked Kenobi's ass twice.
Not only that, but it looked to me like Kenobi had a pensive analytical look in Episode III when Grieveous advances with four lightsabers in hand(s) - two of which are spinning around as a makeshift barrier capable of shredding anything in its path. It's as if Kenobi had never seen anything like it and needs a moment to figure out how to apply his defensive Ataru form of lightsaber combat to such an unorthodox fighting style. Sure, it doesn't take long after that for Keobi to make a couple of well-palced strikes to neutralize some of Grievous' advantage, but it's still clear (to me, anyways) he needed time to plot his first move in seemed to be thier first duel.

TCW shits on this and the Anakin/Dooku duel by having Kenobi vs. Grievous and Ankain vs. Dooku take place what seems to be every other arc. of the show. In doing so, they removed the uncertainty Kenobi has in his duel with Grievous on Utupau and it renders Anakin's line, "My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count," absurd when TCW had the pair square off frequently to the point their last duel probably took place within the previous two weeks 🤣.

This reinforces a point previously discussed in this thread: Filoni and the current people in charge don't care about consistency or canon. Anything they do is declared canon and gospel no matter how much it contradicts with previous work or film events which Lucas regarded as higher ranking/priority canon-wise. The net effect is that if anything is canon in their minds, nothing really is since it can be replaced or supplanted on any sort of whim.
 
Not only that, but it looked to me like Kenobi had a pensive analytical look in Episode III when Grieveous advances with four lightsabers in hand(s) - two of which are spinning around as a makeshift barrier capable of shredding anything in its path. It's as if Kenobi had never seen anything like it and needs a moment to figure out how to apply his defensive Ataru form of lightsaber combat to such an unorthodox fighting style. Sure, it doesn't take long after that for Keobi to make a couple of well-palced strikes to neutralize some of Grievous' advantage, but it's still clear (to me, anyways) he needed time to plot his first move in seemed to be thier first duel.
Even without all the specifics about in-universe fighting style names like you put in there in the scene Kenobi's like visibly surprised but intrigued about the fact a guy with crippled lungs just whipped out 4 sabers like he hadn't seen anyone do that before. Guy's on defensive waiting for the small slip ups and openings till the clone troopers show up.
 
Exactly. That's why you have series like the KOTOR/SWTOR stuff and the New Jedi Order books. Although, to be fair, the latter kinda pissed off the fans too, if anything because they thought it got too dark, whereas KOTOR/SWTOR media just had the appropriate amount of darkness and light-hearted comedy. Yes, you have the grimdark atmosphere and feel with the Sith and everything they touch, but outside of that, you have humorous things here and there, like Bastila getting flustered with male Revan's taunting, the Bounty Hunter in SWTOR making a Jedi look like an idiot for using a mind trick, and the entire Smuggler SWTOR story.
This reminds me of that scene from KOTOR 1, a light-hearted scene within a dark setting:
This reinforces a point previously discussed in this thread: Filoni and the current people in charge don't care about consistency or canon. Anything they do is declared canon and gospel no matter how much it contradicts with previous work or film events which Lucas regarded as higher ranking/priority canon-wise. The net effect is that if anything is canon in their minds, nothing really is since it can be replaced or supplanted on any sort of whim.
This is why people shouldn't be given free reign to do their fantasy projects when they just ignore the lore & consistency of a franchise since people are just going to point out the silliness & stupidity of your work the moment they see it when it contradicts the established lore in the first place.
Even without all the specifics about in-universe fighting style names like you put in there in the scene Kenobi's like visibly surprised but intrigued about the fact a guy with crippled lungs just whipped out 4 sabers like he hadn't seen anyone do that before. Guy's on defensive waiting for the small slip ups and openings till the clone troopers show up.
I read that Obi-Wan switched to a defensive technique while mixing a bit of his master's style after seeing Qui-Gon fail against Darth Maul and also due to confined spaces not suitable for Qui-Gon's style. That's a double-edged sword though since as you said, you have to be on the defensive while waiting for your enemy to slip-up.
 
You guys remember that weird 3 year period where they were putting Saw Gerrera in everything? He was in Rogue One of course, then Rebels, then this. I guess he didn't take off how they hoped. The boring design probably didn't help.
Saw Gerrera's cameo in Andor was one of the best uses of the guy. If you knew of the character previously, you could appreciate seeing the character at a different stage of his life. If you didn't know of him, he served as a representative of the nascent rebellion and how precarious and paranoid they were. He serves as a character for the story first and not merely for fanservice.
 
That's how you know these people are full of shit because Return of the Jedi wasn't even bad, and Empire wasn't that good. They're both 8/10. Star Wars has always been plagued with weirdos and lunatics.
The Ewoks were pretty gay in RotJ but minus that its a good film and a great trilogy bookend. Of course it was even better before Lucas went and fucked with it. Anyone assmad about RotJ has garbage NPC tastes.

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The Ewoks were pretty gay in RotJ but minus that its a good film and a great trilogy bookend. Of course it was even better before Lucas went and fucked with it. Anyone assmad about RotJ has garbage NPC tastes.

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Just another reason Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney to spite these kind of people. It's ok to give critique to a part of a movie you don't want but to make it the martyr of it sucks is why we're in the timeline to begin with.
 
I hate Kevin Smith so much is unreal
Ever since Joss Whedon got cast down to the sodomites, Kevin Smith has taken his place on my list of people whose miserable downfall I want to see happen in real time

Its....a pretty fuckin long list at this point but I got spite enough to go round
 
Just a reminder: In their review for the film, RedLetterMedia actually fucking said that The Force Awakens was better than Return of the Jedi.

Just...remember that anytime anyone tries to treat them like ANY credible authority on Star Wars. Or films in general.
Hell, weren't they the originators of the 'A Stormtrooper hit their head on a door frame in 1997 so Obi-Wan and Leia doing an Austin Powers skit is fine!' meme'd defence of the Kenobi show?
 
That is a fantastic way to summarize the problem. The old EU was pretty self contained and you didn't have to touch anything but the series you wanted to read or watch. Meanwhile Disney Wars has everything as not only canon, but important. So if Sugary Moundso was introduced in The Clone Wars, you need to read his tie in comic book about the events leading up to his birth all the way back in High Republic and look out for his cameo in season 67 of Ahsoka.

They've been not only unsuccesfully trying to pull this Marvel shit on Star Wars, but it was never succesful with the MCU to begin with.
 
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