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Is Dating a Total Nightmare for You Right Now?

On a recent Saturday night in Austin, Anya Haas went out hoping to meet someone. She planned to grab a bar seat at a trendy restaurant and scope out her options, but when she arrived, it was packed. While waiting, an elderly man offered to buy Haas dinner; she politely declined and left to grab some sushi before heading to a comedy show. There, she figured, it would be easier to mingle with people her own age. But when the 32-year-old hospitality worker arrived at the club, it was mostly empty. She was also the only person who sat in the front row, and the comics singled her out for being alone. Humiliated, Haas then got a ride home from a single, 75-year-old woman who said she drove for Uber in order to meet people. That’s going to be me, Haas thought while petting the driver’s dog.

Once she got home, Haas recorded a videorecapping her mortifying experience. “I’m not someone who posts or cries on the Internet,” she says. “So this is a new one for me.” Haas, who has been single for the past seven years, talks through tears about how tired she is of people telling her a dream man will “come along when you least expect it.” “I’m so sick of hearing that,” she says, slamming her hands down on her kitchen island. “There’s such a thing as people who just don’t find their person and don’t get married.”

Haas had posted on TikTok only three times before, but by the next day, her video had millions of views across the internet. People began to repost her TikTok alongside other videos of tearful 20- and 30-something single women, and the reactions showed just how disconnected the sexes are when it comes to the state of dating in 2024. Many men criticized Haas for having “unrealistic expectations” or seemed confused by her dilemma. “Why are so many 29 yr old boss girls from Tiktok having public meltdowns about failing to find a man?” wrote one dude on X. Meanwhile, legions of women commiserated. “I’m in the same boat,” one 30-year-old wrote, adding that she also hadn’t been in a relationship in almost seven years.

Single people have always griped about trying to meet someone, but lately, it seems heterosexual women have reached a breaking point. Not only are they crying on-camera and swearing off dating apps, they are becomingvoluntarily celibate like Julia Fox or going “boysober.” When Bumble ran an anti-celibacy campaign last month, the company received so much backlash it was forced to pull the ads and apologize. Taken together, it looks as though single women in the U.S. are one more bad date away from launching their own version of South Korea’s 4B movement, in which women refuse to date, fuck, marry, or have kids with men.

Ryan Spencer vented her frustrations on TikTok in mid-May because conversations with a new love interest were stuck at surface level. None of the five men she had previously dated provided the 29-year-old with the deep commitment she’s seeking either. “How much longer do I have to pray and manifest and wait?” she says in her video. Choking back tears, she wonders, “Is it just supposed to be me, alone?” Spencer tells me she grew up with parents who still “absolutely love the shit out of each other,” and along with marriage, kids, and a house, she wants the fairy-tale romance, too. “I’m not denying that I’m a little bit delulu when it comes to falling in love,” she says. “I’m sorry, I grew up watching Disney movies!”

Taylor, who asked to go by her first name only, could relate to Spencer’s video even though she’s not angling for a marriage proposal. “She has a solid life but doesn’t have a person to share it with,” the 30-year-old pastry cook says of the TikTok. “It hit me recently: 90 percent of the things I do on a daily basis I do alone.” Taylor, who lives in Brooklyn and wants a partnership of some kind, says so many of the guys she meets suffer from what she calls “porn brain”: They prize performative masculinity over actual connection. During sex, she says, they focus on dominance rather than her pleasure. Her only relationship ended a year and a half ago, and while she has been on a few dates since then, it’s been hard to have meaningful conversations.

All the women I spoke with said they feel apps have turned dates into transactions. Haas swore off Bumble and Hinge more than a year ago, finding that most guys just pretended to want something serious in order to get laid. (Since posting her video, she says two men she previously matched with sent unprompted dick pics.) Anissa, a 31-year-old corporate lawyer who asked to go by a pseudonym, tells me the guys she meets seem interested in “conquest” while she and other single women are “trying to just find their person.” She describes three male archetypes she has encountered on the apps: “He either wants to have sex with you immediately. Or he’s already in a relationship and is just so obviously noncommittal. Or he’s obsessed with you.” One guy lied to her about his job and where he lived, another confessed last-minute to being in an open relationship, and the last man she went on a date with became overly attached to her after spending only a few hours together. She flaked on their follow-up plans. “There’s a sickness where we don’t see people as people because of the apps,” she says. “We always think that there’s something ‘better’ out there.”

Anissa isn’t finding it any easier to meet guys offline. In her experience, men her age tend to pick up younger women in bars. “He’s going to go up to the scantily clad 21-year-old who’s having the time of her life,” she says. “Not three grumpy 31-year-olds.” Taylor also hasn’t had any luck in the wild after ditching dating apps. She says that in her 20s, it was easy to meet someone every weekend at Union Pool, the notoriously horny Williamsburg club. Now, she finds the bar crowd is more closed off and cliqued up. Watching Haas’s video, she thought, Someone’s sitting alone at a comedy show? Sounds about right. “In the past five years, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone out there randomly,” she adds.

Each woman offers different theories on why dating is such a drag right now. Taylor blames technology, and Spencer finds men her age are more interested in “getting shit-faced in New York City every weekend” than in committing to a relationship, partly because the COVID-19 pandemic derailed their prime sexual years. Another woman in her early 30s tells me she has been on an eight-month break from dating men because she thinks they’ve become more politically conservative. (Some studies show that young women are becoming more liberal than young men, though experts are skeptical that there’s a significant political divide between the sexes.) Haas is concerned about the online network of men’s-rights activists who want to “turn guys against women.” The one common thread throughout these conversations, though, is that the women believe their romantic priorities are fundamentally different from those of guys their age. That may not be a new problem (see: Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus), but it feels especially pressing in the age of Andrew Tate and swiping left.

Taylor still feels hopeful that she’ll meet someone even if she has no idea when. But Anissa isn’t so sure. Like Spencer and Haas, the thought of being single long-term terrifies her; she doesn’t want to spend her Friday nights with her cat eating sushi. She also hates it when people tell her a relationship will happen when she stops trying to make it happen. “I think that is the biggest lie that we tell each other and ourselves,” Anissa says. “You have to look.” But where is she supposed to look, exactly? For her part, Haas wants to be more proactive about flirting IRL by complimenting hot men she sees at the grocery store or in a coffee shop. Rather than going to a bar and hoping to get hit on, she’s also forcing herself to get off the couch and hang out with friends she doesn’t normally see. “I’m just going to try and have fun and see if that helps,” she says.

On Instagram, she currently has 180 unread messages, but the DMs Haas is most excited about have been from other women in Austin asking her to hang out. If the video scores her a few new friends, it will have served a purpose — though she has thought about taking it down. “If I magically do meet somebody,” she says, “I don’t need them to be able to go to my TikTok and see me crying all over the internet.”
 
the 32-year-old hospitality worker
problem 1.
“I’m not someone who posts or cries on the Internet,”
And yet here you are
People began to repost her TikTok alongside other videos of tearful 20- and 30-something single women, and the reactions showed just how disconnected the sexes are when it comes to the state of dating in 2024.
I thought the foids on the farms that women were always desirable? They shouldn't exist and someone would have wifed them up
Ryan Spencer vented her frustrations on TikTok in mid-May because conversations with a new love interest were stuck at surface level. None of the five men she had previously dated provided the 29-year-old with the deep commitment she’s seeking either. “How much longer do I have to pray and manifest and wait?” she says in her video. Choking back tears, she wonders, “Is it just supposed to be me, alone?”
Yes. 29 is too old to find a ltr. She should start posting on the King-hate thread
“I’m not denying that I’m a little bit delulu when it comes to falling in love,” she says. “I’m sorry, I grew up watching Disney movies!”
And there's problem 2. Relationships aren't meant to be perfect.
Anissa isn’t finding it any easier to meet guys offline. In her experience, men her age tend to pick up younger women in bars. “He’s going to go up to the scantily clad 21-year-old who’s having the time of her life,” she says. “Not three grumpy 31-year-olds.”
Oh no she's developing self-awareness
Haas is concerned about the online network of men’s-rights activists who want to “turn guys against women.”
Men don't need to do that when w*men already do that
 
if I point out that porn was largely developed, starred in, and funded by jewish people does that mean I get positive stickers and ANers to actually pay attention to the elephant in the room or not? Let's find out.
I gave you a heart but its mostly just because you asked for stickers not the antisemitism, though I do appreciate the pandering.

Make a dating profile as a woman and you will be flooded with men, all they literally have to do is just pick one. Even old women like these can get a guy, the problem is their standard for men is comically high in relation to what they offer (barren wombs). If they lower their standards to match their age, lack of fertility, dull personalities, use of terms like "delulu", then I'm sure they will be able to find a man who is their equal.
 
Is Dating a Total Nightmare for You Right Now?
On the opposite side, yes, because 99% of dating app profiles are dogs, partying, "hiking", social media whores, the same recycled generic answers to prompts stolen from TikTok/Instagram, "I like honesty, communication and traveling", princesses that expect men to humor them like a clown, just to name a few.

more interested in “getting shit-faced in New York City every weekend”
the guys she meets seem interested in “conquest” while she and other single women are “trying to just find their person.”
Same can be said for women.

“In the past five years, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone out there randomly,” she adds.
Because no guy nowadays wants to risk being called a creep and #MeToo'd.
 
I gave you a heart but its mostly just because you asked for stickers not the antisemitism, though I do appreciate the pandering.

Make a dating profile as a woman and you will be flooded with men, all they literally have to do is just pick one. Even old women like these can get a guy, the problem is their standard for men is comically high in relation to what they offer (barren wombs). If they lower their standards to match their age, lack of fertility, dull personalities, use of terms like "delulu", then I'm sure they will be able to find a man who is their equal.
I mean thanks but I said that to gently poke fun at how seriously this forum seems to take stickers and how posters here seem to agree or disagree with something based on what stickers it already has.

Literally the whole article is about how they can't find a guy who sees them as a person rather than the opportunity to renact a porn video. The three types of guy they said they're running into is porn addict, cheater, or stalker. The last two would be bad in any circumstances, and are always there, so the new major problem category is porn addict. If your options are be treated like a fleslight and otherwise ignored or single, why wouldn't you pick single?

I'm aware that the opposite sort of person exists, like the instagram boyfriend article posted a few days ago, but if all of these other women keep leaving the dating pool then that's what you're exclusively going to find in the dating pool. And yes, being made to take photos for instagram is unpleasant but less stressful than being used to renact a porn video.
 
Any time I see "Trying to date is a nightmare... for women" article I roll my eyes so hard it hurts. The challenge for women in dating is sorting through 1000 readily available guys and min-max looking through every trait they have like a video game for the highest value that benefits them... it's almost like the alpha male grifters who she complains about and preach about being a high value male are successful by exploiting something that is very real because of them. The challenge for men is being one of those 1000 guys, having to put in all the effort of making contact and actually expending resources to attempt to even get the first date and having to take pretty much any chance that is given because they can't be picky and still end up ghosted 90% of the time. Obviously you can't paint women in such a completely broad stroke, but the women who are not like this are going to very quickly get into a relationship and probably stay in them for a reasonable amount of time once again leaving the market full of the min-maxers... at least they'll take one of the lucky guys with them too.

Oh well, at least the dynamic is funny when it reverses and the min-maxers who pass on many opportunities with men they would have been happy with but didn't match some specific quality perfectly age up and lose most of their value and they get mad at the younger generation of min-maxers getting with older, rich men.
 
If your options are be treated like a fleshlight and otherwise ignored or single, why wouldn't you pick single?
Obviously you cant tell 100% what someone is going to be like entirely from their online dating profile or IG account but the fact they keep meeting the same types of men seems to be more about what men they are choosing.

If you make a dating profile as a woman you are inundated with a seemingly endless amount of men to choose from. Maybe it's cringe to say "nice guys do exist" or something like that, but they do, there are guys who don't even watch porn believe it or not. These women choose to date certain types of men out of the endless supply of matches on any dating site and continue to have bad experiences not realizing they are the common factor in this equation. These aren't "arranged marriage" type situations, these are women picking a guy out of hundreds of options.

And look, you cant control who you are into I suppose, so if the only men they find attractive are all degenerates then that sucks for them I guess and they can just be single.

So... just be single and stop whining about it. It's the same thing we tell incels 'no one is entitled to a relationship', right? it cuts both ways. the end goal is everyone is miserable.
 
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I don't even know how to approach women as a single man in a way that wouldn't get me trashed if I didn't meet her standards for some reason. There was a time "pretty boring guy with well paying job" would have at least had dating prospects but those days are long gone.
 
Literally the whole article is about how they can't find a guy who sees them as a person rather than the opportunity to renact a porn video.

"I keep meeting these guys for casual sex, and they're porn-brained coomers! How come none of the guys I have sex with after meeting them at a bar or on a hook-up app after waiting until I'm no longer pretty or likely to become a mother to get serious are good husband material?"

Woman digs in the garbage, find only trash, news at 11.

So... just be single and stop whining about it. It's the same thing we tell incels 'no one is entitled to a relationship', right? it cuts both ways. the end goal is everyone is miserable.

Women want a world where every man makes less money than them except the one they marry, and a world where 80% of men are single but 100% of women are married.
 
Obviously you cant tell 100% what someone is going to be like entirely from their online dating profile or IG account but the fact they keep meeting the same types of men seems to be more about what men they are choosing.

If you make a dating profile as a woman you are inundated with a seemingly endless amount of men to choose from. Maybe it's cringe to say "nice guys do exist" or something like that, but they do, there are guys who don't even watch porn believe it or not. These women choose to date certain types of men out of the endless supply of matches on any dating site and continue to have bad experiences not realizing they are the common factor in this equation. These aren't "arranged marriage" type situations, these are women picking a guy out of hundreds of options.

And look, you cant control who you are into I suppose, so if the only men they find attractive are all degenerates then that sucks for them I guess and they can just be single.

So... just be single and stop whining about it. It's the same thing we tell incels 'no one is entitled to a relationship', right? it cuts both ways. the end goal is everyone is miserable.
I do get what you're saying and that could definitely be a factor, but the guys that don't watch porn are a lot rarer than you think. Gail Dines the porn researcher has struggled to get studies off the ground due to inability to find guys that don't watch porn. The demand is much greater than the supply, but also because it's a sexual topic you also can't really advertise without seeming weird or a potential liar.

No-one is entitled to a relationship, but if they've been seven years without one already then they're not out there causing problems about it like (some) incels do. I think this article is just trying to raise attention to the scale of the problem, much like individual incels are the worst but collectively they're the sign of something gone very wrong.

"I keep meeting these guys for casual sex, and they're porn-brained coomers! How come none of the guys I have sex with after meeting them at a bar or on a hook-up app after waiting until I'm no longer pretty or likely to become a mother to get serious are good husband material?"

Woman digs in the garbage, find only trash, news at 11.



Women want a world where every man makes less money than them except the one they marry, and a world where 80% of men are single but 100% of women are married.
You're projecting a bunch of stuff on them that you want to be true but is not reflected in any of the information provided by the article; how about you give these women the benefit of the doubt? They're literally saying they're looking for long term relationships and non-app ways of meeting people isn't working.

I've had one serious relationship, no dating around, and almost every other guy I met was a porn brained weirdo or just too pushy in general, not just through apps. When I did meet a worthwhile guy he already had a girlfriend, even when I was a teenager. These women are not much older than me, and I know a lot of women my age who are now staying single, also like me. You might be under-estimating the scale of the problem. Kids are statistically being introduced to porn at 8 these days, and that's been going on for longer than more people want to acknowledge. Every guy had seen porn by the time I started secondary school at 11 and were on their way to developing a habit.

BTW I am off KF for the night so if you respond I won't see it until later.
 
and the last man she went on a date with became overly attached to her after spending only a few hours together. She flaked on their follow-up plans. “There’s a sickness where we don’t see people as people because of the apps,” she says. “We always think that there’s something ‘better’ out there.”
Girl that's you!

I do feel for the Haas girl, because she's trying and she seems sweet.

It does kind of suck for women that a lot of guys get more desirable in their late 20s-early 30s. There's a big movement of women saying "nuh uh not true" but it's observable. They get out of their own heads, learn how to dress and style themselves, and start to understand what women like. So now those guys are thinking "wait a minute I'm doing great out here. I don't want to settle down. All these girls had their hoe phase, I want mine."
Of course if he waits too long he's going to age out as well >35-36, but try telling a 27-28 year old who just figured this whole thing out that he doesn't get to play a little bit.
Add on the prevailing understanding that nobody really owes anyone anything and you get a recipe for an awful experience.
 
Like 68% of men ages 18-30 are single. How high are you standards if not one out of literally billions of young men is suitable?

Whatever enjoy dying alone I guess.
To be fair, many of those guys are under six foot tall.
"looking for the Travis to my Taytay"
I’m glad I’m married because if I was single and had to read that shit I might just eat a bullet.
If your options are be treated like a fleslight and otherwise ignored or single, why wouldn't you pick single?
That’s because the type of guys they pick are the types who would treat them like fleshlights. Picking a stable guy who would treat her like a person doesn’t give her the tingles.
 
how tired she is of people telling her a dream man will “come along when you least expect it.” “I’m so sick of hearing that,” she says, slamming her hands down on her kitchen island. “There’s such a thing as people who just don’t find their person and don’t get married.”
As annoying as it may be, would you prefer we tell you "Go pick out some cats!" ? or "Sucks to be you!" ?

There's some real "Fuck you Mom and Dad" energy flowing when someone gets that upset at basic kindness and generic platitudes from strangers.

At most you should just roll your eyes, not sperg out on your breakfast nook about how nobody understaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands you...

That's teenage angst, and you're way too old for that.

And now, some admittedly totally self-serving schadenfreude.

Honey, singledom set in for me at about 20 when I went to college and got the message from women like you that guys under 5' 5'' should just stay out of the bars, keep playing with their model trains and computer games, or whatever, and never even bother to LOOK at you... because you have standards.

I have no reciprocal sympathy for you failing to get a Chad by your late 30's, since they have their standards too.

Modern dating is largely toxic and unfair. A lot of people lose out, they run out of time and chances, and never find romantic success.

When I had to concede it was over for me? I was hurt.

But, I learned to live with it.

Your turn.

And you have the backing of the media on your side to try and let you down gently... I didn't.

Your landing is going to be a lot softer than a LOT of people's , so don't complain, it's unbecoming.
 
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