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Is Dating a Total Nightmare for You Right Now?

On a recent Saturday night in Austin, Anya Haas went out hoping to meet someone. She planned to grab a bar seat at a trendy restaurant and scope out her options, but when she arrived, it was packed. While waiting, an elderly man offered to buy Haas dinner; she politely declined and left to grab some sushi before heading to a comedy show. There, she figured, it would be easier to mingle with people her own age. But when the 32-year-old hospitality worker arrived at the club, it was mostly empty. She was also the only person who sat in the front row, and the comics singled her out for being alone. Humiliated, Haas then got a ride home from a single, 75-year-old woman who said she drove for Uber in order to meet people. That’s going to be me, Haas thought while petting the driver’s dog.

Once she got home, Haas recorded a videorecapping her mortifying experience. “I’m not someone who posts or cries on the Internet,” she says. “So this is a new one for me.” Haas, who has been single for the past seven years, talks through tears about how tired she is of people telling her a dream man will “come along when you least expect it.” “I’m so sick of hearing that,” she says, slamming her hands down on her kitchen island. “There’s such a thing as people who just don’t find their person and don’t get married.”

Haas had posted on TikTok only three times before, but by the next day, her video had millions of views across the internet. People began to repost her TikTok alongside other videos of tearful 20- and 30-something single women, and the reactions showed just how disconnected the sexes are when it comes to the state of dating in 2024. Many men criticized Haas for having “unrealistic expectations” or seemed confused by her dilemma. “Why are so many 29 yr old boss girls from Tiktok having public meltdowns about failing to find a man?” wrote one dude on X. Meanwhile, legions of women commiserated. “I’m in the same boat,” one 30-year-old wrote, adding that she also hadn’t been in a relationship in almost seven years.

Single people have always griped about trying to meet someone, but lately, it seems heterosexual women have reached a breaking point. Not only are they crying on-camera and swearing off dating apps, they are becomingvoluntarily celibate like Julia Fox or going “boysober.” When Bumble ran an anti-celibacy campaign last month, the company received so much backlash it was forced to pull the ads and apologize. Taken together, it looks as though single women in the U.S. are one more bad date away from launching their own version of South Korea’s 4B movement, in which women refuse to date, fuck, marry, or have kids with men.

Ryan Spencer vented her frustrations on TikTok in mid-May because conversations with a new love interest were stuck at surface level. None of the five men she had previously dated provided the 29-year-old with the deep commitment she’s seeking either. “How much longer do I have to pray and manifest and wait?” she says in her video. Choking back tears, she wonders, “Is it just supposed to be me, alone?” Spencer tells me she grew up with parents who still “absolutely love the shit out of each other,” and along with marriage, kids, and a house, she wants the fairy-tale romance, too. “I’m not denying that I’m a little bit delulu when it comes to falling in love,” she says. “I’m sorry, I grew up watching Disney movies!”

Taylor, who asked to go by her first name only, could relate to Spencer’s video even though she’s not angling for a marriage proposal. “She has a solid life but doesn’t have a person to share it with,” the 30-year-old pastry cook says of the TikTok. “It hit me recently: 90 percent of the things I do on a daily basis I do alone.” Taylor, who lives in Brooklyn and wants a partnership of some kind, says so many of the guys she meets suffer from what she calls “porn brain”: They prize performative masculinity over actual connection. During sex, she says, they focus on dominance rather than her pleasure. Her only relationship ended a year and a half ago, and while she has been on a few dates since then, it’s been hard to have meaningful conversations.

All the women I spoke with said they feel apps have turned dates into transactions. Haas swore off Bumble and Hinge more than a year ago, finding that most guys just pretended to want something serious in order to get laid. (Since posting her video, she says two men she previously matched with sent unprompted dick pics.) Anissa, a 31-year-old corporate lawyer who asked to go by a pseudonym, tells me the guys she meets seem interested in “conquest” while she and other single women are “trying to just find their person.” She describes three male archetypes she has encountered on the apps: “He either wants to have sex with you immediately. Or he’s already in a relationship and is just so obviously noncommittal. Or he’s obsessed with you.” One guy lied to her about his job and where he lived, another confessed last-minute to being in an open relationship, and the last man she went on a date with became overly attached to her after spending only a few hours together. She flaked on their follow-up plans. “There’s a sickness where we don’t see people as people because of the apps,” she says. “We always think that there’s something ‘better’ out there.”

Anissa isn’t finding it any easier to meet guys offline. In her experience, men her age tend to pick up younger women in bars. “He’s going to go up to the scantily clad 21-year-old who’s having the time of her life,” she says. “Not three grumpy 31-year-olds.” Taylor also hasn’t had any luck in the wild after ditching dating apps. She says that in her 20s, it was easy to meet someone every weekend at Union Pool, the notoriously horny Williamsburg club. Now, she finds the bar crowd is more closed off and cliqued up. Watching Haas’s video, she thought, Someone’s sitting alone at a comedy show? Sounds about right. “In the past five years, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone out there randomly,” she adds.

Each woman offers different theories on why dating is such a drag right now. Taylor blames technology, and Spencer finds men her age are more interested in “getting shit-faced in New York City every weekend” than in committing to a relationship, partly because the COVID-19 pandemic derailed their prime sexual years. Another woman in her early 30s tells me she has been on an eight-month break from dating men because she thinks they’ve become more politically conservative. (Some studies show that young women are becoming more liberal than young men, though experts are skeptical that there’s a significant political divide between the sexes.) Haas is concerned about the online network of men’s-rights activists who want to “turn guys against women.” The one common thread throughout these conversations, though, is that the women believe their romantic priorities are fundamentally different from those of guys their age. That may not be a new problem (see: Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus), but it feels especially pressing in the age of Andrew Tate and swiping left.

Taylor still feels hopeful that she’ll meet someone even if she has no idea when. But Anissa isn’t so sure. Like Spencer and Haas, the thought of being single long-term terrifies her; she doesn’t want to spend her Friday nights with her cat eating sushi. She also hates it when people tell her a relationship will happen when she stops trying to make it happen. “I think that is the biggest lie that we tell each other and ourselves,” Anissa says. “You have to look.” But where is she supposed to look, exactly? For her part, Haas wants to be more proactive about flirting IRL by complimenting hot men she sees at the grocery store or in a coffee shop. Rather than going to a bar and hoping to get hit on, she’s also forcing herself to get off the couch and hang out with friends she doesn’t normally see. “I’m just going to try and have fun and see if that helps,” she says.

On Instagram, she currently has 180 unread messages, but the DMs Haas is most excited about have been from other women in Austin asking her to hang out. If the video scores her a few new friends, it will have served a purpose — though she has thought about taking it down. “If I magically do meet somebody,” she says, “I don’t need them to be able to go to my TikTok and see me crying all over the internet.”
 
There will be some. The problem as I see it is that
1. these apps select for poor behavioural strategies.
2. They saturate the market pushing out alternative meeting strategies .
High quality people aren’t on dating apps looking to hook up. They’re not in clubs and bars, they’re just out there getting on with life. The problem is how do you connect men and women like that when everything is skewed towards this online market? People who are more introverted aren’t any good at putting profiles out there and getting attention so the ones you see are the worst ones. We’ve destroyed all the places communities met in real life like churches or small villages or extended family knowing another extended family. Everything is now skewed towards an artificial environment that favours the most outgoing, loud and flashy.
My best advice to everyone here is to go do things in the real world, not online. Go do some fun outdoor hobby, a sport, or even just start helping around in your local Church. Met myself a cutie a few days ago that way, and I'm having a lot of fun talking with her. Maybe something will come out of this, maybe she will become just a friend, but at least I won't be suffering with loneliness, and that's the real killer nowadays.

GO OUT. MAKE FRIENDS. FIND GEE EEF THROUGH THAT.
 
You average man, even in the internet age, does not have the resources to date abroad.
Yes, that's the longterm consequences of feminism, young men can't get a well paid job enough (in a reasonable time) to elevate resources to go abroad. This is on purpose my dude, it's a financial trap to make men staying in the West.

Yes, it happened, but too many act like it's a viable social movement/way to pressure modern women into being less picky.
It never was a social movement, it's just men not giving a shit anymore. You think men who finally get their trad gf care about the roasties crying? Maybe they care about the taxes, but not anything related being a part of a social movement to improve women.

"Screw you all I'm going to Asia" only ever really tried by a fractional percentage, much less worked.
But Eastern Europe and South America was very common (most "100% Europeans" are multi national). When feminism got a hold over nothern and central Europe, men went to south and eastern Europe since it was close enough, catholic and similarly looking. The "going to Asia" meme is just an escalation of what happened during the first wave of feminism , because we went from a car vacation to a nearby country to find wife (in the boomer days) to having to take cross continental international flights for gold diggers today.

I know this a meme post, but I think you get the idea.
 
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How real is it though? Are we talking a hundred genuinely nice blokes or 90 bobs and vagene, a few scammers, a few who just want to get laid and a Nigerian prince ?
Women have the opposite problem as guys do when it comes to dating, and that goes triple for online dating. Where men have to approach many women to get a yes/send out dozens and dozens of messages to get a response, women have to wade through proposals/crapfloods of messages to find someone of value, and there are no rules about how to recognize or pick the right guy among them.

Unfortunately, the natural response any person will have to overwhelming choices is to become extremely choosey. Women are already wired to be picky (for good reason), so I have to imagine online dating is causing even bigger issues in this area. You could probably design a dating app to mitigate these issues, but the market must not want it.
 
I don't feel bad for women complaining about how they end up alone considering they'll never experience having a social media page yet no messages outside of rejection.

Imagine a man fucking crying on TikTok about how lonely he is, and how every woman he meets is just a gold-digging whore who wants nothing more than for him to buy her stuff. He'd probably lose his job or something.

There's very few men that can consistently compete against that stream of attention the same way no woman can be expected to compete against the stream of absolutely filthy porn that's at the fingertips of any man with a smartphone.

People don't understand that Fifty Shades of Grey isn't women's alternative to PornHub. It's Instagram and TikTok.

The problem is how do you connect men and women like that when everything is skewed towards this online market?

School. High-quality people meet in school and get married shortly after they finish. What happened is we told everyone that's bad, it constricts you, it stifles your dreams, so many fish in the sea, what about your career, etc. Crying on TikTok at age 32 is what you do when you refuse to choose somebody the last time you will be in a sea of people your age.
 
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The bigger question is, are there any decent or even acceptable women out there at all?
There are, but for every 1 good woman, there is probably 10 good men. Only problem is that they get snagged up fast, and if you didn't catch one early on, you automaticly have to date younger women your own age to get a good one, but then it's already hard to get connected with them "naturally". The ratio of good men vs. good women is high and with age it gets higher, It's this ratio that "blackpills" (hate that word) guys when they are in their early/mid 20's.
School. High-quality people meet in school and get married shortly after they finish.
Do you mean high school or university? I can tell you that the odds of finding "wife material" at university today (in the West at least) is very small. Women at university often already got tattoos, drinks or smokes and already lost their virginity before even enrolling university.
 
There are, but for every 1 good woman, there is probably 10 good men.

It's more that nearly everybody has been completely broken by clown world, and they refuse to accept that to make something work, you need to make it work with another clown world resident.

Look at this butterfaced woman crying on TikTok, going through her dead-egg existential crisis. Like incels who need to shut up and accept that nobody wants a guy who cooms to anime all day, she needs shut up and accept that the only men who consider a woman her age to be a great catch are in their early 40s.

Women at university often already got tattoos, drinks or smokes and already lost their virginity before even enrolling university.

Women show up with tattoos and notched bedposts, men show up with porn addictions.
 
Crying on TikTok at age 32 is what you do when you refuse to choose somebody the last time you will be in a sea of people your age.
Holy shit. We're all turning into Japan! Complete with a worship and overvaluing of youth because it's the last time any of us had any true agency :stress:
Do you mean high school or university? I can tell you that the odds of finding "wife material" at university today (in the West at least) is very small.
And why is that? Because w*men took over higher education and turned it hostile to men and masculinity. Openly hostile. Defiantly hostile. (Defiant of what? Human decency muh patriarchy.)
 
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Most people dissecting this 'article' missed the NYC part. NYC is the Formula 1 of the dating scene. If these women are not from NYC then they probably moved there for the explicit purpose of living the NYC Life, which includes dating the hottest, most successful men. The problem is more women than men have that idea so you end up with all the Oklahoma and Illinois 10s moving in and saturating the market. I'm not saying they're ugly, but they're competing with literal models and actresses, many of whom probably aren't as neurotic. You cannot fuck around in the big leagues.
 
The problem is how do you connect men and women like that when everything is skewed towards this online market?
You have young sons right? The best thing you can do for them when they’re teenagers is to pick one of your friend’s daughters that you think would be a good match and subtly push them into a relationship.
 
Thottie Thottie such a hottie, eyebrows plucked and Tinder naughty
At 22 an Insta star, while having sex with Omar
HPV scare at 25, the vaccines kept her alive
Got promoted at 27, instantly dumped that broke-ass Devon
Earns six figures at 29, saying all men are swine
Adopts a cat at 33, "You're like a child to me!"
Still not married at 36, but has all the freshest kicks
Lives alone at 41, always thought somebody'd come.
Thottie Thottie such a hottie, eyebrows thin; the Tinder auntie
Her job forgot her, someone's daughter
And no one cares what all this taught her.
I assume this is a sequel to the 1910 edition?

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You have young sons right? The best thing you can do for them when they’re teenagers is to pick one of your friend’s daughters that you think would be a good match and subtly push them into a relationship.
Kids of both sexes. They have an ok friend group and the schools are fairly sane, goodness knows what will happen at uni. Not sure I even want to think about it tbh
 
They think because a Chad did a one night stand with them once that they all deserve chads
One time this fat girl asked for me to buy her a drink at a bar and I said no. After calling me an incel she brought up the fact that she had fucked a USC football player and that I couldn't compete. W*men really are dumb and don't seem to understand men's nature.

The bigger question is, are there any decent or even acceptable women out there at all?
There still are. But women might not want tk hear this but these girls are in their early 20s still. Biggest problem I've seen is that many of them don't realize they want a family and have bought into the social media hype
 
Like 68% of men ages 18-30 are single. How high are you standards if not one out of literally billions of young men is suitable?

Whatever enjoy dying alone I guess.
Something I've come to consciously realize lately (maybe I already knew it subconsciously) is that most of what women do is to compete with each other. Back in the old, real world, where they had to find a man for safety and security, this meant (among many other things) competing for mates. In delusional Clown World, it means they compete for meaningless status among other women with no other goal in mind, and circumstances no longer push them towards meaningful lives. (Because men made the world too safe, convenient, and prosperous.)
 
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Maybe they should just focus on making more friends.

You'd be surprised at how often friendships have the potential to turn romantic once you find that one friend who is on the same wavelength as you. Maybe they wont be the most attractive person out there, but if you can tolerate each other and enjoy spending time together then they're the one.
Can't do that either, women have decided that male friends falling for them is creepy and a "betrayal."
 
You'd be surprised at how often friendships have the potential to turn romantic
Why lie to women like that though? I get your point but as a guy you can't be friends with a woman the same way you can a man. I desire them sexually and I'm not going to lie by saying that being friends is an acceptable alternative, I want her genuine desire and you don't get that by being her "friend".
 
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