Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[kokokrunch123]

Morrigan in Origins is a watered Kreia from KOTOR2, for better and worse.

she's warden-commander cousland's fuckmeat.

 

[Snekposter]

Morrigan in Origins is a watered Kreia from KOTOR2, for better and worse.

More like Kreia's teenage daughter that paid as little attention as possible to those lessons.

 

[kokokrunch123]

i hope EA and bioware end it with dreadwolf. i'm fine with 2 endings for this tragedy:
1.) help solas conquer thedas; only achievable with a KNIFE-EAR character.
2.) put that^ knife-ear down. re-subjugate those tree huggers, and forcibly integrate them into the alienages again. all (ALL) twinkle toe dissidents will get un-alived.

 

[Mega Black]

And here I wondered for years why Merrill's general demeanor clashed so horribly with literally everything else about the character, from her open embrace of demons and blood magic to her clan being fucking terrified of her to it being very likel

For me it was Fenris who felt the most fanfic of them all. Edgy white haired ninety pound elf twink with a gigantic sword and super special lyrium powers that mopes around, leans on corners, and cries in your arms about his edgy backstory if you romance him.

Pure fanfic shit. DAII is truly awful.

Funny how she claims to disdain shiny things after Flemeth smashed that mirror in front of her yet is a sucker for getting gifted jewelry

That's just your average woman. Morrigan is great because she is your edgy goth gf who becomes a tradwife.

i hope EA and bioware end it with dreadwolf. i'm fine with 2 endings for this tragedy:
1.) help solas conquer thedas; only achievable with a KNIFE-EAR character.
2.) put that^ knife-ear down. re-subjugate those tree huggers, and forcibly integrate them into the alienages again. all (ALL) twinkle toe dissidents will get un-alived.

Neither of these will happen, sadly. You'll beat the big bad Solas with a Marvel team up of familiar faces across the franchise and hug it out as the world becomes huge and kisses or some shit.

 

[kokokrunch123]

For me it was Fenris who felt the most fanfic of them all. Edgy white haired ninety pound elf twink with a gigantic sword and super special lyrium powers that mopes around, leans on corners, and cries in your arms about his edgy backstory if you romance him.

Pure fanfic shit. DAII is truly awful.

That's just your average woman. Morrigan is great because she is your edgy goth gf who becomes a tradwife.

Neither of these will happen, sadly. You'll beat the big bad Solas with a Marvel team up of familiar faces across the franchise and hug it out as the world becomes huge and kisses or some shit.

sadd

 

[Rick The Stick]

More like Kreia's teenage daughter that paid as little attention as possible to those lessons.

You could almost say that makes her a watered down version of kreia. And to be fair, Kreias lessons are retarded "I'm 13 and this is deep" type shit. "What if like, le force is actually le bad? And that helping people and not helping people is also bad? And that being neutral is also bad?". Even her ultimate goal of removing the forces influence on the Galaxy is retarded, short sighted and poorly thought out.

who becomes a tradwife.

Nothing trad about running away with your baby and doing everything in her power to prevent you from tracking her down. Even the end of witch hunt ends up being pointless since following her through the mirror doesn't lead to anything when she shows back up in 3. And iirc the only bit of info we get from her on our Warden is that he's fucking around trying to find a cure for the blight/taint still and nothing more substantial than that. So she's essentially a single mother who's son has zero connection or contact to his father. Not very trad to me.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

One thing I actually appreciated about Dragon Age 2 (aside from kid me enjoying all the wonderful cleavage) was that, even though your choices didn't really affect the story, it genuinely felt like you had agency over your relationship with the companions. Even if they weren't the best written, or were downright awful, it felt like where you stood with them and what choices you made actually had a tangible effect on how they developed and how they interacted with you. That combined with the framing of this taking place over the course of several time jumps made the companions really feel like a squad who've known each other for years and have been through the shit, for better or worse. A feeling I don't really get with the cast of many other RPGs outside of maybe KOTOR 2. I genuinely went from hating that little shit Carver to feeling prideful when he chose family over the Templars when I knew I could have gotten him killed, made him even more of a bitch or made him outright hate me.

Anyways-the Qunari? Thoughts?

Which ones? Feel like Inquisition changed them a lot. And the ones in 2 immediate lose 50% of their intrigue just knowing that Felicia Day's garbage OC was considered one of them.

For me it was Fenris who felt the most fanfic of them all. Edgy white haired ninety pound elf twink with a gigantic sword and super special lyrium powers that mopes around, leans on corners, and cries in your arms about his edgy backstory if you romance him.

I kept Fenris around just because it tickled me how much he pissed Anders off for being living proof that mages can be monstrous power hungry assholes too, to the point Anders will full-on support Fenris getting enslaved again.

 

[Mola Ram]

I kept Fenris around just because it tickled me how much he pissed Anders off for being living proof that mages can be monstrous power hungry assholes too, to the point Anders will full-on support Fenris getting enslaved again.

Yeah, those two aren't bickering friends or frenemies or companions who'll find their camaraderie in the darkest hour: they full on fucking hate each other. It's an interesting choice. And given how sympathetically we're suppose to view Anders given his suffering and the whole "he's a metaphor for mental illness" angle, it's something nu BioWare would never do, unless the goal were to make sure that we see Anders as an irredeemable villain.

 

[kokokrunch123]

Yeah, those two aren't bickering friends or frenemies or companions who'll find their camaraderie in the darkest hour: they full on fucking hate each other. It's an interesting choice. And given how sympathetically we're suppose to view Anders given his suffering and the whole "he's a metaphor for mental illness" angle, it's something nu BioWare would never do, unless the goal were to make sure that we see Anders as an irredeemable villain.

anders started a war that could have been prevented. friend or rival route, he ignores hawke's counsel. it'd be nice to dunk on him in dreadwolf.

 

[Ishtar]

I did another DA2 playthrough recently, was just sick of Anders by the end of it.

After Hawke’s mother dies, Anders says and I quote “I can’t believe a mage would do something like that”. At that point, Anders isn’t some romantic revolutionary or uwu sad oppressed bisexual, he’s a crazed fanatic that has banished reason from his possessed mind.

Like really? No mage could do something like necromancy or blood sacrifice or mass murder?

I ended up siding with the Templars. Completely destroyed the circle. I only wish we’d have gotten to formally behead Anders and not knife him off screen.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

IM SO HY-nah just kidding



Only two companions at the time? In a RPG? Are you fucking kidding me?

Also AN ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWOKEN!

 

[Sniperwoof]

The existence of this game in a post Baldur's Gate 3 world confuses me.

Given Bioware's extreme incompetence what could this possibly do better than that game?

At least I'll get to laugh at the ugly characters.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

Veilguard sounds like a medical product or DDOS service.

Ten years and they must still be years out unless EA shuts them down first.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

Was coming to post this - this was yet another one of those "wait I follow this page on Zuccbook?" moments. The fact there's people actually excited for this baffles me - even ignoring how bad this is likely to look in a post BG3 world, the only reason I can think of that there's any excitement is that the last DA game was released 10 years ago(!) and people look back on it with some serious nostalgia. Just ignoring that Inquisition was, in hindsight, incredibly mid at the most generous, and that Biowares output since has been the drizzling shits.

Only two companions at the time? In a RPG? Are you fucking kidding me?

Honestly I'm just taking this as confirmation they've built this on Frostbite like they did with Andromeda and Anthem. Y'know, because that worked out so fucking well for them.

Ten years and they must still be years out unless EA shuts them down first.

I'm half convinced that keeping the lights on at Bioware is someone laundering money. The DEI cheques they get for keeping these fucks open can't be worth the garbage output, and EA has shuttered studios for significantly less, and I doubt The Old Republic was pulling in the kind of numbers needed to justify keeping the studio open - and per some quick Google Fu apparently a different studio took over development on that game last year, so now I'm even more confused...

 

[Mola Ram]

Veilguard sounds like a medical product or DDOS service.

It's a VPN. A shitty one that has a massive data breach six months after you subscribe.

Only two companions at the time? In a RPG? Are you fucking kidding me?

Not only that, this is the fewest number of companions in a mainline Dragon Age game. DAO had nine, ten if you count Loghain; DA2 had eight with Sebastian (nine if you count both of Hawk's siblings), DAI nine. Awakening had six, but that was technically just DLC. I suppose you could argue that fewer companions means each one will be more polished, but I'm expecting most of these characters to range from bland to offensive disasters.

 

[Absolutego]

The existence of this game in a post Baldur's Gate 3 world confuses me.

Given Bioware's extreme incompetence what could this possibly do better than that game?

At least I'll get to laugh at the ugly characters.

It's their ultimate report card. If it bombs, the Austin branch is definitely shuttered, and Edmonton might get downsized too. They're out of cash cows making them useful to the bean counters, all the value in the Bioware name is in IPs that can be farmed out to more competent studios.
I can't wait to see what kind of shallow features aping BG3, inserted last minute by a nervous management, were able to be crowbarred in.

 

[Sniperwoof]

It's their ultimate report card. If it bombs, the Austin branch is definitely shuttered, and Edmonton might get downsized too. They're out of cash cows making them useful to the bean counters, all the value in the Bioware name is in IPs that can be farmed out to more competent studios.
I can't wait to see what kind of shallow features aping BG3, inserted last minute by a nervous management, were able to be crowbarred in.

I don't think EA will ever greenlight full frontal nudity but if they do in an attempt to capture Larian's audience the parodies and mods will be hysterical.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Inquisition had a lot of great parts about it, it just fell short on a lot of them. Call me a mong, but I believe that Bioware has the ability to make a great game, if they just pushed it and polished it a little bit, Inquisition would have been a great, focused, DA game.

With how radio silent Bioware have been and haven't been giving the charlie-big-ones on what they're making and how great it will be, I think DA4 could be a return to form.

 

[Super Hans v2]

Great, another Bioware game that's going to be soft-announced by having the real villain hidden behind dlc. Who could have seen that coming?

 

[Rick The Stick]

Inquisition had a lot of great parts about i

Yeah like when the credits finally rolled