Disaster "I wasn't dead enough for an abortion": Texas mom blames Trump for almost losing her life - Actions have consequences.

If Trump wins in November, "he will make this nightmare a reality nationwide," says Lauren Miller​

By CHARLES R. DAVIS

Deputy News Editor

Lauren Miller was pregnant with twins when she landed in the emergency room after 36 straight hours of vomiting. An ultrasound would reveal that one of her expected twins had fluid where the brain should be developing.

"After speaking with multiple doctors and genetic counselors, we kept arriving at the same point: our son would die," Miller recalled during a press call organized by the Democratic Party on Monday. She could die too too, her doctors said, which would in turn kill the viable fetus and leave her toddler at home without a mother.

The course of treatment was obvious: Miller needed an abortion. Before the summer of 2022, that wouldn't have been much of a problem, even in her home state of Texas, as there was a federally recognized constitutional right to terminate a pregnancy. After the Supreme Court's conservative majority overturned Roe v. Wade, however, more than a dozen states imposed strict bans on the procedure. And while Texas, like other states, has exceptions to protect the life of a mother, in practice there is a concern that recommending one could result in a medical professional being liable for what the state GOP argues is an act of murder.

"As my medical providers tried to counsel me on my options," Miller said, "they would just stop mid-sentence, looking for the right words. It was like they were afraid that they would be arrested just for saying the word 'abortion' out loud."

One specialist, Miller recalled, was visibly upset, tearing off his gloves and angrily tossing them in the trash. "I can't help you anymore," he said. "You need to leave the state."

Miller was finally able to terminate the pregnancy when she heeded the specialist's advice and left the Lone Star state.

"I was at risk of organ damage to my kidneys and brain, but I wasn't dead enough for an abortion in Texas, " Miller said.
Texas Republicans imposed a near-total ban on abortion following the Supreme Court's 2022 Dobbs decision, a move that has been followed by complaints, from pregnant people and their doctors, that the prohibition is unclear on when a pregnancy can be terminated to protect a life.

Last week, the state's all-Republican Supreme Court rejected a legal challenge from women who said their lives were endangered as a result of complicated pregnancies that their doctors were hesitant to properly treat; the court said abortions could go ahead based on the "good faith judgment" of a medical professional that an individual would be "unlikely to survive."

But what if a doctor performs an abortion that a court later decides wasn't absolutely necessary? Under current state law, that could mean a sentence of life in prison. Some Republicans want to go even further than that.

As writer Jessica Valenti noted, the Texas Republican Party has adopted a plank that effectively calls for people who perform or obtain abortions to be prosecuted and potentially sentenced to death. The party's platform urges lawmakers "to enact legislation to abolish abortion by immediately securing the right to life and equal protection of the laws to all preborn children from the moment of fertilization." That language was first added in 2022, Valenti reported, "after a lobbying effort by Abolish Abortion Texas," a group that refers to "preborn babies" as being "murdered," the punishment for which includes capital punishment.

"The fact that this platform could even be brought up for a vote is disturbing," Rep. Veronica Escobar, D-Texas, told reporters on Monday. "But it should remind us how extreme and out of touch Donald Trump's MAGA Republican Party has become. If we allow Trump to get to the White House, he will subject all women across this country to his agenda of revenge and retribution."

While boasting of his responsibility for state abortion bans, Trump, who appointed three of the six justices who overturned Roe v. Wade and previously endorsed punishing doctors who perform abortions and patients who receive them, has waffled on just how far he would go if he wins in November. Last month, the presumptive Republican nominee told an interviewer he was "looking at" allowing state bans on birth control, only to walk back the statement after criticism.

Miller, who ultimately received a single fetal abortion and give birth to a healthy son, said she's not confused about the former president's positions when it comes to women and reproductive rights. Trump won't make America great, she said, but he will make it more like Texas, subjecting millions more Americans to the sort of abortion restrictions that now cover a third of the U.S. population.

Should he win in November, according to Miller, "he will make this nightmare a reality nationwide."
 
I don't really care about Trump either way, and I'm neither Democrat nor Republican.

There was a 90 day period where Obama could have put RvW into actual law. He was a dipshit who thought he could use carrot and stick tactics, so he didn't.
There were fifty whole years to put Roe on a statutory footing, and then all the court packing shenanigans would have been rendered moot. In fact, with Roe off the table as an SC issue, a number of nominations would probably have gone to superior jurists rather than those who could be relied upon to take the 'correct' line, depending on which administration nominated them.
The Democrats chose not to do that, and to continue kicking the can full of wasps down the road. Then the road ran out. This situation was completely predictable, and was regularly predicted, particularly loudly by RBG who considered Roe wrongly decided.
The easy way out was taken by Democratic administrations, over and over, and all the chickens came home to roost. Whoever is to 'blame' (or otherwise) for the current state of abortion access in America, the Democrats get to eat a whole ass share of that responsibility. They do not get to act like all of this has been a terrible surprise and nothing-I-could-do-abortion-mechanics-glitched.
 
"As my medical providers tried to counsel me on my options," Miller said, "they would just stop mid-sentence, looking for the right words. It was like they were afraid that they would be arrested just for saying the word 'abortion' out loud."

One specialist, Miller recalled, was visibly upset, tearing off his gloves and angrily tossing them in the trash. "I can't help you anymore," he said. "You need to leave the state."
If your doctor is acting like this while you are genuinely in life threatening danger then go to another doctor that's not completely fucking incompetent instead of using it as an example on why women should be able to abort healthy fetuses because they want to.
 
If your doctor is acting like this while you are genuinely in life threatening danger then go to another doctor that's not completely fucking incompetent instead of using it as an example on why women should be able to abort healthy fetuses because they want to.
Well you can thank Trumps appointmenents for that.
 
If your doctor is acting like this while you are genuinely in life threatening danger then go to another doctor that's not completely fucking incompetent instead of using it as an example on why women should be able to abort healthy fetuses because they want to.
I was under the impression that America was a country where you could sue a doctor for that. Refusing medical treatment because the doctor thinks it might legally sketchy (even though patient meets the legal exception carveouts) sounds like "get a lawyer" to me.
 
Miller, who ultimately received a single fetal abortion and give birth to a healthy son
It doesn’t say WHERE she did. There will always be situations like this which require medical intervention - hard cases make bad law. This is why there are always exceptions built in for the life of the mother and health. Of one of the twins could kill the other one what do you do? It’s a genuinely hard choice. As far as I’m aware Texas has medical exemption built in doesn’t it? That fact there’s no detail on where she got the abortion hints to me it was in fact in Texas.
Spergery about abortions aside, In pregnancies with twins when one is braindead and killing you is there a way to save the normal child? Can't you terminate only the baby thats causing the issue?
You can, early on like @Sweetie Kitty says. Further it depends on if they share a placenta , sac etc. it gets much riskier. The least risky thing to do will depend but it might be rather sadly carrying both to term and accepting one will die very shortly after.
Like I said, hard cases make bad law, but this kind of situation IS accounted for - it would fall under life/significant risk to the mother.
 
I don't understand what the doomed twin's hydrocephalic condition (even if it was severe enough to be incompatible with life) caused this woman to "vomit for 36 straight hours," or why this condition would cause the woman to be in mortal danger herself. I can easily understand how it could cause danger to the other remaining twin, which is an interesting issue in medical ethics certainly.

But I don't even see a way this woman's story is on the level. Typically a fetal abnormality doesn't cause "risk of organ damage to my kidneys and brain," unless they're basically arguing "twins are inherently more risky than a singleton and one won't make it anyway so yeet it."

Can one of our resident doctor types please explain what, if any, conditions in a fetus would result in the mother's life being in particular jeopardy?

Usually the argument here about fetal deformity is "the baby will have horrible quality of life," but this woman is making a very specific claim I've never seen advanced about deformities. Clarification needed.
 
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