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Conspiracy Mawile said:
Sanderson's quality in writing has really dropped imo
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Mistborn Era 2 was awful, though I admit haven't gotten around to the fourth book. Might see if I can pirate them in audiobook format somewhere and try them that way.

Pity because the first three Mistborn books are some of the most entertaining fiction I think I've ever read.
 
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Sanderson = Superman problem 2, 3, and 4; it works for YA. Sucks that the guy will end up purity spiral canceled because he's a weak man that refuses to move to the front line of the current day culture war. It is what it is. Maybe one day he'll buckle down and make a good high fantasy that doesn't lean toward comic/game tropes.
 
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Gnillik Yot said:
This meme is spot on. It seems every other week, some big conservative account bemoans the lack of RW art. Half of the replies are always indie authors who point to their self-published books. Does the big account boost them be retweeting or reviewing their work? Nope! They just pretend these people don't exist, and two months later make the same complaint.

Just look at all the quote tweets & replies to Last Things. I lost track of all the RW artists linking to their material. How many of them did Last Things repost? Zero.
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Why? I guess because indie art tends to be both crazy and political. If they retweet some work on a whim they might associate with something the masses would find distasteful. If they review some work they might do the same thing, only after spending their precious time helping someone who's not them. Lots of these accounts are run by grifters who just want money and don't care about the cause, so it could be simple selfishness - unwillingness to spend your time on something you won't benefit from.
 
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I've posted this to the Lindsay Ellis thread, but I really want an answer to this:
Celebrity books are apparently a big deal for the publishing companies, and the companies heavily depend on their sales.
The question is: Does anybody actually read these celebrity books? Apparently they are a big deal for the big publishing companies. When was the last time you heard someone talk about what they've read in Michelle Obama's book? This is a genuine question? Has anyone in your life ever quoted the book of a failed presidential candidate? Do people cook using Snoop Dogg's cookbook?

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Hirbowedge said:
I've posted this to the Lindsay Ellis thread, but I really want an answer to this:
Celebrity books are apparently a big deal for the publishing companies, and the companies heavily depend on their sales.
The question is: Does anybody actually read these celebrity books? Apparently they are a big deal for the big publishing companies. When was the last time you heard someone talk about what they've read in Michelle Obama's book? This is a genuine question? Has anyone in your life ever quoted the book of a failed presidential candidate? Do people cook using Snoop Dogg's cookbook?

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They are coffee table books you buy a relative for Christmas or their birthday which get opened once or twice. I usually see one or two every Christmas. That's where the sales are coming from.
 
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Hirbowedge said:
I've posted this to the Lindsay Ellis thread, but I really want an answer to this:
Celebrity books are apparently a big deal for the publishing companies, and the companies heavily depend on their sales.
The question is: Does anybody actually read these celebrity books? Apparently they are a big deal for the big publishing companies. When was the last time you heard someone talk about what they've read in Michelle Obama's book? This is a genuine question? Has anyone in your life ever quoted the book of a failed presidential candidate? Do people cook using Snoop Dogg's cookbook?

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I have no idea if anyone reads them, but you'd need somebody with access to Bookscan to figure what it is that sells and what doesn't.

I do know shit like this happens...

As of Oct. 9 of this year, "All Things Possible" had sold a total of 3,800 copies total, according to NPD BookScan. Cuomo's tax records showed he was paid an advance of $783,000 by publisher Harper Collins for that book, which worked out to about $206 per book sold.
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...and yet they published ANOTHER book by him, go figure.

So at least some of these celebrity/politician tell all books do in fact sell like shit sandwiches even when given big advances. And a publisher will go back to the well in at least one instance. (Maybe being obligated by contract?)
 
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Elwood P. Dowd said:
I have no idea if anyone reads them, but you'd need somebody with access to Bookscan to figure what it is that sells and what doesn't.

I do know shit like this happens...


...and yet they published ANOTHER book by him, go figure.

So at least some of these celebrity/politician tell all books do in fact sell like shit sandwiches even when given big advances. And a publisher will go back to the well in at least one instance. (Maybe being obligated by contract?)
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The article mentions Cuomo already.
Even celebrities, though sometimes you think it’s going to be a big best seller, it flops. It happens… I mean, Andrew Cuomo’s book was sold at the height of his being America’s governor during the COVID crisis. I mean, that book was sold for $5 million, I believe. I don’t know for a fact. But by the time it came out, the nursing home scandal had happened, the Me Too issues, and the book didn’t do any business.
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Some of the celeb books fail, but some of them apparently sell.

I'm not doubting the numbers. People buying the books to virtue signal was my assumption.

What I'm curious about is, does anybody actually read this shit. Like, if you are selling millions of copies of the last ghostwritten Obungler chronicle, somebody must be talking about it, right? Where are these people? Am I missing them because I don't go on booktoq? Reddit? Niche youtube communities?

I'm trying to find any other explanation than millions of dollars worth of paper and ink being churned out just so libs can take selfies with a book and never ever look at it again.
It's not even a political thing. I've mentioned Snoop already. How many people have actually read the Britney Spears book? If there is a significant number of them, where the fuck are they? Is it just me being disconnected from the normies?
 
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I remember reading Rand Paul's book after he became a senator. Also Jesse Ventura's book on conspiracy theories. Political people read these kind of books, but probably the market is composed of mostly boomers.
 
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Gnillik Yot said:
I remember reading Rand Paul's book after he became a senator. Also Jesse Ventura's book on conspiracy theories. Political people read these kind of books, but probably the market is composed of mostly boomers.
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you'll also hear them referenced by pundits. If you listen to some political podcasts you'll hear all the time "oh this incident was recounted in so-and-so's book..."

Basically it's all the kiwi farms, and the only ones reading those books are the shitposters who want to dig up dirt on their chosen lolcow.
 
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Hirbowedge said:
Celebrity books are apparently a big deal for the publishing companies, and the companies heavily depend on their sales.
The question is: Does anybody actually read these celebrity books? Apparently they are a big deal for the big publishing companies. When was the last time you heard someone talk about what they've read in Michelle Obama's book? This is a genuine question? Has anyone in your life ever quoted the book of a failed presidential candidate? Do people cook using Snoop Dogg's cookbook?
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In addition to the aforementioned bribes and money laundering. It allows a politico or figure of note to attempt to control the historical narrative around them. In the hopes that their version of events becomes the definitive one.

As for who reads them, I assume most are bought to look good on a shelf or some by diehard fans/supporters. They very rarely have anything interesting in them that is already unknown, and it's rare that they drop new gossip or insights. One of the reasons I think Harry's Spare sold so well is that is filled with gossip about the Royal family. The only one on the horizon I see matching that, would be a possible memoir from Trump about his time as President. Because you know that book would be wild.
 
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Hirbowedge said:
I've posted this to the Lindsay Ellis thread, but I really want an answer to this:
Celebrity books are apparently a big deal for the publishing companies, and the companies heavily depend on their sales.
The question is: Does anybody actually read these celebrity books? Apparently they are a big deal for the big publishing companies. When was the last time you heard someone talk about what they've read in Michelle Obama's book? This is a genuine question? Has anyone in your life ever quoted the book of a failed presidential candidate? Do people cook using Snoop Dogg's cookbook?

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I read the Stacey Dash book years ago and don't really know why. I tried Sporty Spice's book recently but quit after a couple chapters because her early life was boring family drama and she had a lot of gay pride shit in it.

They all suck. The only interesting celeb book I've ever read was Jackie Chan's '90s book, "I am Jackie Chan", which went into great detail about the making of his early movies and revealed Sammo Hung is fat because he broke his leg when he was a kid and got to eat candy all day while the other students worked out.
 
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