You aren't kidding about that. A buddy of mine bent an armorers wrench after needing to stick a two foot breaker bar on it to get his PSA-assembled barrel nut off and the receiver threads were a write-off at that point.
And it would have been incredibly easy considering the Vietnamese with practically no industrial capacity were able to convert the 9mm MAT-49 into 7.62 Tokarev. I guess they just saw the CZ-75 as something purely for western markets which didn’t have any demand for 7.62 Tokarev.
I'm sure PSA uses a machine and stops it when the upper starts shaking and twisting in the vice or they hear grinding noises.
5.56 works plenty well still for modern engagements. The 6.8 contract the military has is dubious in a lot of ways.
It's complicated. First they're switching to .277 Fury. 6.5 Creedmoor is a completely different round. They do use it for sniping, but that isn't a assault rifle role. Second, unless you have a intruder packing Level IV ceramic plates, which cost a shit ton, 5.56 works fine. The army is honestly being retarded.
the US military is adopting 6.8x51 to replace 5.56x45 not 6.5 creedmore. 6.8x51 is a very powerful round meant to have a longer range than 5.56 because 5.56 just didn't cut it at long range in Afghanistan. its also meant to have better armor penetration capabilities with the right projectile.
I mean, I might.
Ceramic plates also break up when shot. Its a trade off. At that point you dump your mag. 5.56 will punch through after enough rounds, and they'll be knocked on their ass while wearing over 20 pounds of kit, with brokenribs and internal bleeding from all that force you dumped into them. They aren't getting back up.
If you're worried about the inside of your home something like 00 buckshot will absolutely decimate, if the attacker has plates being so close you're going to be easily able to hit the upper torso without much issue, iirc you're looking at a ranch right? So overpenetration isn't much of a concern.
Not to mention that a bunch of AP rounds will go through level 3 but still won't go through level 4.
If he's worried about somebody coming in with armor, 00 buck will be stopped by soft armor.
Yeah but that's kinda why I asked him what he wants specifically, if you're inside the home you're able to aim at the upper torso/neck area and with 00 buck nearly decapitate regardless of what the guy is wearing, but best not to assume too much and just ask.
6.5 creedmore is more of a target shooting round for punching paper at long distances. If you want an AR platform but higher caliber, I would just get a .308 AR 10, higher grain bullets available than 6.5 and ammo is a lot more available/cheaper than 6.5.
protip, the pelvic girdle is not covered by armor and pretty much any hit in that area is instantly incapacitating. they can't walk with a broken pelvis or spine or both, and there are a shitload of important arteries running through there that tourniquets can't be applied too.
Worth buying a case or two to check out?
I recommend you aim for the upper chest/neck areas. Yes, you can punch some holes in the pelvis or arms and that does make someone less combat effective and can kill. On the other hand, even with pistol rounds, folks that take a few in the upper chest/neck rarely make it even with next level medical care.
For a normal person, I'd say the cost and availability of creedmore isn't worth it. For you, though. Well, maybe skip the AR platform entirely and just get the tax stamp to have an m1919 browning mounted and pointed at your front door. Plates won't stop things if they become playdoh.
Disagree because shooting somebody in the pelvic girdle has a major chance to hit arteries that will kill you extremely quickly, as well as incapacitating from a spinal shot. Neck moves too quickly to reliably target, and a miss on the upper chest can just fly over their shoulder. If you miss the pelvis, you can hit either leg, stomach, etc.
Yes, if you're disappointed I will eat the last magazine you shot that disappointed you. Again, they're new so they're still working some things out. But the ammo seems rock solid. And besides, every dollar you send their way will be used to make their operations better, and every single gun owning American benefits from PSA over-succeeding.
.277 fury (the XM7 cartridge) is a more powerful cartridge than the average 6.5 creedmore load. 3600 Joules vs 3000 joules. 5.56 is usually 1000-1500 joules.
