2016 US Presidential Election Thread 2 - Always Darkest before Don

first thread devolved into shitposting, here's a new one

 

[IwegalBadnik]

One of the most amusing things about this election has been dipshit college kids and media leftists pushing the idea that Trump will literally become the next Hitler and start chucking brown people into camps if he's elected. Does anyone really believe Trump is intelligent or charismatic enough to be the next Hitler?

To be fair I think Trump will effect millions.

The difference is that I think it'll be by way of entertaining them, not slaughtering them.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

The current situation:

• The odds over who will control the Senate are effectively up to a coin toss now, 50-50.
• Trump is gaining ground on Clinton for the presidency
• For this election cycle, the House is simply a lost cause for the Democrats. They can do nothing with it for the moment given that the break they were hoping for to win some pushback there has not come and undoubtedly won't come this time around.

Should Trump win the presidency and the Republicans take the majority in the Senate, they will have the executive and legislative branches tied up handily. From there, the judicial branch is still functioning at reduced capacity with SCOTUS currently running on 8 seats and other seats looking at vacation due to potential deaths or retirements in the near future. Potentially, the Republicans could gain strong footholds in every branch of government .

If Hillary manages to lose (which is possible) and the Democrats lose the Senate (which is very possible), the Democrats will be fresh out of clout for some time.

Given that the presidential candidate is traditionally the leader of the pack, I'd say Hillary's performance as the vanguard for the Democrats has been less than stellar. But hey...

And yet we've been seeing more post touting the inevitable demise of the GOP as a viable political party than you'd have heard at fucking Woodstock. The Republicans aren't going anywhere. Believing otherwise is magical thinking. The sooner new/youngish Democrats let this sink in, the sooner they will realize the only reliable way of pushing through important liberal causes is through good faith negotiation with your opposition and not pretending you rule the world through fiat and crying when you realize you don't.

 

[muina]

https://twitter.com/HeHasntTweeted2/status/795099474351693824

He has it all figured out

 

[Ruin]

And yet we've been seeing more post touting the inevitable demise of the GOP as a viable political party than you'd have heard at fucking Woodstock. The Republicans aren't going anywhere. Believing otherwise is magical thinking. The sooner new/youngish Democrats let this sink in, the sooner they will realize the only reliable way of pushing through important liberal causes is through good faith negotiation with your opposition and not pretending you rule the world through fiat and crying when you realize you don't.

The Democrats have also got to stop thinking that every person with dark skin is automatically going to accept an extreme left agenda just because they're not white. The majority of recent American immigrants are from Mexico, do the Democrats really think the people who came from the country that coined machismo will enthusiastically endorse feminist shit? Once Muslims become a substantial part of the population will they clamor for abortion on demand and free the nipple? The harsh truth is the majority of these people like the German and Irish immigrants before them vote Democratic for gib me dats and not much else. Once they start becoming a majority the progressive agenda is in serious trouble.

 

[IwegalBadnik]

And yet we've been seeing more post touting the inevitable demise of the GOP as a viable political party than you'd have heard at fucking Woodstock. The Republicans aren't going anywhere. Believing otherwise is magical thinking.

Oh, the "GOP IS DEAD!" crowd are the best. Those buffoons haven't got a clue. The GOP is doing better in the House than they have in decades and remarkably well at the state level too.

The guys who claim the GOP is dead are on the same level as Baghdad Bob and his claims.

The sooner new/youngish Democrats let this sink in, the sooner they will realize the only reliable way of pushing through important liberal causes is through good faith negotiation with your opposition and not pretending you rule the world through fiat and crying when you realize you don't.

I disagree. I think they must first learn that, to have any meaningful success, you must remember that you have not won out over your opposition until you actually have. The GOP is by no means dead, no matter how much these guys say it is so. Yet still they claim victory while GOP edges forward on their watch.

 

[Mungo]

The harsh truth is the majority of these people like the German and Irish immigrants before them vote Democratic for gib me dats and not much else. Once they start becoming a majority the Democratic agenda is in serious trouble.

It's not like they'll ever become aware of that. Both parties are just as self-unaware as any other big organization. They act entirely for the short term, much like big business does.

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

And yet we've been seeing more post touting the inevitable demise of the GOP as a viable political party than you'd have heard at fucking Woodstock. The Republicans aren't going anywhere. Believing otherwise is magical thinking. The sooner new/youngish Democrats let this sink in, the sooner they will realize the only reliable way of pushing through important liberal causes is through good faith negotiation with your opposition and not pretending you rule the world through fiat and crying when you realize you don't.

The Democrats have also got to stop thinking that every person with dark skin is automatically going to accept an extreme left agenda just because they're not white. The majority of recent American immigrants are from Mexico, do the Democrats really think the people who come from the country that coined machismo will enthusiastically endorse feminist shit? Once Muslims become a substantial part of the population will they clamor for abortion on demand and free the nipple? The harsh truth is the majority of these people like the German and Irish immigrants before them vote Democratic for gib me dats and not much else. Once they start becoming a majority the Democratic agenda is in serious trouble.

Not gonna lie, these are pretty optimistic predictions. Personally I still think the GOP is in some trouble especially in terms of demographics. However I think once those demographics start to get older they'll start leaning more towards republicans. I think the GOP has economic policies spot and they should really try differentiating themselves from the dictatorships those immigrants left.

 

[Xarpho]

One of the most amusing things about this election has been dipshit college kids and media leftists pushing the idea that Trump will literally become the next Hitler and start chucking brown people into camps if he's elected. Does anyone really believe Trump is intelligent or charismatic enough to be the next Hitler?

The other thing is the fear that if Trump loses, something else worse will come in his place. I don't remember anything from MSM sources about if Romney losing it would do much besides "GOP has to kowtow to women/LGBT/minorities" concern-troll gloating.

The Democrats have also got to stop thinking that every person with dark skin is automatically going to accept an extreme left agenda just because they're not white. The majority of recent American immigrants are from Mexico, do the Democrats really think the people who came from the country that coined machismo will enthusiastically endorse feminist shit? Once Muslims become a substantial part of the population will they clamor for abortion on demand and free the nipple? The harsh truth is the majority of these people like the German and Irish immigrants before them vote Democratic for gib me dats and not much else. Once they start becoming a majority the progressive agenda is in serious trouble.

Absolutely true. Houston, Texas is a great example, it's highly diverse (I think Hispanics at least have a third of the population if not more) and is progressive in many ways, but highway signs on seemingly every other weekend advise traffic where to park for gun shows. Not everyone loves guns but the last governor ran with open carry as one of his central planks and he won every county in the state except the border counties and the counties where Dallas and Austin are.

 

[Marvin]

This thought occurred to me earlier today and cracked me up, so please enjoy this Election Day fanfiction I wrote about it.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton stepped onto the stage, tears blinding her eyes while the roar of the crowd deafened her. She had done it. She had finally, finally done it. Decades of waiting, of countless favors, of dirtying her hands and selling out her morals had finally paid off. She was the first female president, and her name would live on in the annals of history.

Hillary stepped up to the mike to deliver her acceptance speech. "My fellow Americans, I am humbled and honored to stand before you today as the FIRST. WOMAN. PRESIDENT," Hillary began, waiting for the applause to die down before she continued. "The road has been long, but finally we-"

Suddenly, the lights cut off, causing the crowd to cry out in surprise. A split second later, the stage lights came back on, only now they were a disturbing, eerie red. A swirling column of smoke erupted onstage, the sulfuric smell it gave off causing many in the audience to choke. Finally, the smoke cleared, revealing a tall, thin figure wrapped in a cloak as black as night. It was wearing a featureless, horned mask to conceal its visage, although a bright red light shone through each of the eye holes.

"N-no... it can't be... what the hell are you doing here?!" Hillary screamed in total horror.

"But Mrs. Clinton... oh, I'm sorry, Madame President, have you really forgotten our agreement?" The masked, cloaked figure's voice was absolutely terrifying, striking fear into the hearts of every man, woman, and child present. The crowd began to flee towards the exits in a panic. Casually, the terrible intruder waved a hand, causing all of the doors to slam shut and lock.

"Oh, I remember alright," Hillary began. Initially she had thought of denying her connection to the fiend, but instinctively knew that she would only provoke it. She knew all too well what it was capable of.

"But I also seem to remember that you promised me the presidency, Beelzebub," she said, practically spitting the name. "So what are you doing here?"

"That's exactly right, Madame President. I promised you the presidency as part of our agreement," the figure known as Beelzebub said with a certain levity. "But I don't recall ever saying how long you would remain in that position. And now, I'm here to collect the debt you owe me."

"No... no, no, no, NO!!!!" Hillary was in an utter and complete panic right now. Casting one final look at the audience that was still frantically pounding on the exit doors, she took off across the stage and towards the emergency exit.

"What are you so upset about, Hillary? You got what you wanted. From now until the end of time, you'll be remembered as America's first female president. I'm sure that knowledge will comfort you in the eternity you spend in my domain."

With that, Beelzebub disappeared into thin air, only to reappear in front of Hillary a split second later. Grabbing her, he spun her around in some kind of macabre waltz as she screamed. Faster and faster they spun until they became a blur, smoke rising from the floor to embrace them. The audience stopped its desperate escape attempts, staring in complete shock and horror at the scene before them. The stench of sulfur grew stronger as the column of smoke reached higher, Hillary's screams reaching a fever pitch.

And then, as suddenly as it started, it stopped. The eerie red lights cut off, drowning the venue in darkness before the bright, normal lights blinked back on. Yet Hillary and Beelzebub were nowhere to be seen; only the rapidly dissipating scent of sulfur gave any indication that what happened had been real. Utterly panicked, the crowd shoved against the doors once more, falling right through them as they were unlocked. They ran away from the venue, screaming and scattering in all directions.

Beelzebub was right. Hillary was remembered as the first female president for many years to follow. But she was also remembered for teaching the world a very valuable lesson:

The Devil always, always collects his debts.

This is autistic as shit, yet I love it.

 

[Joan Nyan]

Not gonna lie, these are pretty optimistic predictions. Personally I still think the GOP is in some trouble especially in terms of demographics. However I think once those demographics start to get older they'll start leaning more towards republicans. I think the GOP has economic policies spot and they should really try differentiating themselves from the dictatorships those immigrants left.

The GOP does have a demographic problem but it's almost entirely a marketing problem. There's no particular reason why your skin color should relate to economic policies or even most social issues. It's just that the GOP has successfully been painted as the White Supremacy party and aren't doing enough to fight that.

You're right about them getting older though, young people tend to want free shit, and older people tend to not want to pay yuge taxes to give young people free shit.

 

[Quijibo69]

Candle Jack comes to Tru..

 

[Male Idiot]

I hope a few democrats shit their pants and do nothing, this is what they deserve after sabotaging Bernie so foully. Who would have most likely been more popular than Hillary.

 

[Without A Gout]

I hope a few democrats shit their pants and do nothing, this is what they deserve after sabotaging Bernie so foully. Who would have most likely been more popular than Hillary.

If Bernie was the Democratic nominee, he would be taking Trump to the cleaners. He had a massive following among millenial voters.

 

[Null]

2009: Hillary asks Colin Powell how he managed to get around federal laws on classified information being stored on insecure devices. Colin Powell explains to Hillary in excruciating detail how and why he did it.

Too little, too late.

 

[Spudnik]

2009: Hillary asks Colin Powell how he managed to get around federal laws on classified information being stored on insecure devices. Colin Powell explains to Hillary in excruciating detail how and why he did it.

Too little, too late.

Boy, this almost makes it sound like a certain somebody wasn't "extremely careless", that maybe they were even "grossly negligent"...or maybe they intended to bypass federal law!

 

[Holdek]

Boy, this almost makes it sound like a certain somebody wasn't "extremely careless", that maybe they were even "grossly negligent"...or maybe they intended to bypass federal law!

Or if you read her actual e-mail, that she wanted to know how she'll be able to use her Blackberry at work.

 

[Beaniebon]

 

[Intelligent Calcium]

 

[Pepsi-Cola]

Morning reminder that Hillary Rodham Clinton will be 45th US President of the United States of America.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/u...al-college-trumps-winning-map-is-unclear.html

That's not methodology then because it assumes those statistics (turnout, preference) are constant over elections. Those variables from past elections can certainly inform models, but if that's all there was to it there would be no need to have polling, or even campaigns, for that matter.

Oh, my mistake then.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Cheese Pizza incoming.