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A brother who needs social media traction?
Still, doesn't he have a girlfriend if he wants to take vag shots of someone?
Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once
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Still, doesn't he have a girlfriend if he wants to take vag shots of someone?
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After reading parts of Jazz' autobiography posted here, and working with kids for 30 years, I will never be convinced that Jazz and likely the other siblings weren't molested. What he described as his early behavior at school is classic molested kid behavior.
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I agree, I think the twins did something to him and that's why Sander won't leave him alone.
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Eh... as loathe as I am to defend Sanders who I do think have no healthy boundaries with Jazz, I kinda feel this is misleading. These are screenshots from a video in which the family goes from being dressed casualty to bathing suits. The camera IS positioned in a very unfortunate place, which honestly I don't know if on purpose or not... But it's not like he took these pictures of Jazz and posted them on in his Instagram like that.
I honestly don't know how much of this book is authentic and how much is made up... But regardless, has no one actually read it before it was published, like someone outside of the family maybe, and was like "ehhhhh wait a minute, this sounds... Weird? Kinda preverted? Maybe we shouldn't publish this..."
I don't know. It's so weird.
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What’s next? “Family Upskirt Dinner Date”?
Thanks, Sander.
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I finally got around to reading the Ovarit post about the Harvard article on Jazz Jennings and one line very early on caught my attention.
I'm no expert in child development, but two things stood out to me:
1. That's a surprisingly complex statement for a 2-year-old. That level of articulation seems more fit for a kindergartener. I'm stunned anyone believed a toddler said that.
2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't advanced knowledge of sexual anatomy a telltale sign of sexual abuse? A 2yo boy knowing the word penis isn't worrying. It's an external part of his body that he sees and touches whenever he pees. A 2yo boy knowing what a vagina is - that's concerning. It's a body part he doesn't have and should not be familiar with. He absolutely shouldn't know that the two are counterparts.
While I don't believe Jazz ever said those words, it's not hard to believe he knew or at least had some concept of what a penis is and what a vagina is.
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A child may know opposite sex genital terminology due to several perfectly innocent reasons: bathing or changing around like aged siblings and noticing the difference; being informed outright that females have X, males have Y; watching Kindergarten Cop.
The heart of the matter is that Jazz ever saying that is a lie. You can’t go beyond that into analysis of the statement because it never happened. A two year old is not articulate enough to even verbalize that statement much less conceive it.
The heart of the matter is that Jazz ever saying that is a lie. You can’t go beyond that into analysis of the statement because it never happened. A two year old is not articulate enough to even verbalize that statement much less conceive it.
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The bizarre thing is not that Jaron knew "penis" and "vagina"; it is the suggestion that he came up with an entity called "vagina fairy". Jeanette must have reasoned, "All kids knows 'tooth fairy' and Jazz knows 'vagina', so what's so outlandish about 'vagina fairy'?". But this is a form of abstraction that is quite beyond the average 6 (not to mention 2) year old -- and Jaron is hardly even "average".
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I guess I was thinking more in the sense of a 2yo having the capacity to understand the two beyond "boys have an outie and girls have an innie" but I know literally nothing about child development or childrearing. Honestly, I'd think a toddler would lose interest in their genitals once they were dressed and got distracted by their toys or the TV.
It gives r/wokekids vibes. The people who claim gender is a spectrum have quite the black-and-white view of gender. A boy likes dress-up? Nope, he's a girl. A girl like cars? Definitely a boy. A boy hates his voice cracking and his penis popping up unannounced at embarrassing times? Girl. A girl hates constantly outgrowing every new bra she gets? She's a dude.
Teaching boys the concept of a "vagina fairy" as a counterpart to the tooth fairy is terrifying. The tooth fairy takes something useless (a tooth that's fallen out) and replaces it with something valuable (money). Having the "vagina fairy" work as a counterpart to the tooth fairy would imply that their penis is worthless and unwanted, but if they get rid of it, they can get a much more valuable vagina. Give me puzzle pieces. This is definitely autism on my part.
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Correct. Toddlers/really little kids will often go through (potentially more than once in their life) a "question phase" where they have to ask about everything with zero discrimination as to what they're asking about.
In my experience, if little kids, who clearly aren't being abused, are asking about genitals, it's usually during this phase and they're asking about it the same way they ask about literally everything else.
Asking questions until mommy and daddy are just about to go insane is part of what the human brain goes through as it's developing in a healthy and normal manner.
Asking questions until mommy and daddy are just about to go insane is part of what the human brain goes through as it's developing in a healthy and normal manner.
I have read some accounts, granted they are autobiographical, of (usually HSTS) men saying when they were really little (3-4), they would express that they wanted to "cut off" their penis or "make it go away."
That sounds a little bit more realistic to me, for a really little kid kid to say, rather than something like "vagina fairy."
Jaron was actually well above average as a child; watch his first interview at age six. Very advanced verbally. Puberty blockers dumbed him down. He could well have known the words "penis" and "vagina" (some parents use those instead of "pee-pee" and "wee-wee") but yeah, no, no one believes he formed that complex sentence at age two unless the line was fed to him.
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If (and it's a big if) Sander and Griffen molested Jazz in any way, then it's very likely they were molested first or saw something they then tried to copy using Jazz. Kinda like how Lena Dunham did those awful things to her little sister. She acted in that way because she was raised in a house full of degenerates and didn't think it was odd because she never knew boundaries.
There is a chance someone in the household was a sex pest, either someone from the family or someone close to them, a friend, a relative, the help, whatever, and whoever it was, they did something to the twins or to Jazz directly.
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While I wouldn't be surprised if there was sexual molestation in the family or even in the house, and the speculation is interesting, it's also kind of beside the point. You don't accidentally go from zero (normal healthy approach to sexuality), to eleven (ending up on television "joking" about how you're going to sexually assault your child with a medical dildo).
I believe there has 110% been been sex abuse of some kind in that family all along, and that it is evident by a very casual viewing of the show. At the very least, talking to kids about their genitals with the detail and to the extent that someone clearly was, is not normal or healthy for his age when he was introduced to the world. If Jazz was acting out in school the way they claim he was (as part of their "he was a troon from birth!" narrative) then there was some kind of covert emotional incest AT LEAST and it was focused on his penis. That's weird and abusive even if nobody laid a finger on him. And if it was all made up for the book, and he wasn't really distressed or acting out, and it was made up by Jeanette/her cousin/a therapist/whomever, and then published as a rewriting of his life, THAT'S also insanely manipulative. How do you come back from that, from your mom and your family publicly writing the life story of you hating yourself and your dick? If your crotch was blown apart by a landmine at least you could tell your own story about it and form your own thoughts around recovery.
That's why I severely dgaf about the red herring of ~~cousin Debbie~~ convincing the family of troonism. I wouldn't care if she wrote the entire book herself and directed the show. Lots of families get taken in by the trans mind virus, lots of moms even clearly Munchausen out their kids and delight in it. But Jeanette is worse than all that. Because she's a sex abuser, at least on an emotional level, and always has been. That home has zero healthy boundaries. She has always been so specifically focused on his genitals, his penis, his new "vagina," and forcing the narrative down his throat about what it all means and what he needs to say and feel (and NOT say) about it. It's all there on the show in plain view.
Whether it's Ari and the slightly less retarded twin, who have withdrawn and moved away, or Sander the failure to launch, or the incredibly cucked father, everyone in that family has been traumatized by that mother. The subtext of their lives for years has been "mommy controls everything and can cut your dick off."
I believe there has 110% been been sex abuse of some kind in that family all along, and that it is evident by a very casual viewing of the show. At the very least, talking to kids about their genitals with the detail and to the extent that someone clearly was, is not normal or healthy for his age when he was introduced to the world. If Jazz was acting out in school the way they claim he was (as part of their "he was a troon from birth!" narrative) then there was some kind of covert emotional incest AT LEAST and it was focused on his penis. That's weird and abusive even if nobody laid a finger on him. And if it was all made up for the book, and he wasn't really distressed or acting out, and it was made up by Jeanette/her cousin/a therapist/whomever, and then published as a rewriting of his life, THAT'S also insanely manipulative. How do you come back from that, from your mom and your family publicly writing the life story of you hating yourself and your dick? If your crotch was blown apart by a landmine at least you could tell your own story about it and form your own thoughts around recovery.
That's why I severely dgaf about the red herring of ~~cousin Debbie~~ convincing the family of troonism. I wouldn't care if she wrote the entire book herself and directed the show. Lots of families get taken in by the trans mind virus, lots of moms even clearly Munchausen out their kids and delight in it. But Jeanette is worse than all that. Because she's a sex abuser, at least on an emotional level, and always has been. That home has zero healthy boundaries. She has always been so specifically focused on his genitals, his penis, his new "vagina," and forcing the narrative down his throat about what it all means and what he needs to say and feel (and NOT say) about it. It's all there on the show in plain view.
Whether it's Ari and the slightly less retarded twin, who have withdrawn and moved away, or Sander the failure to launch, or the incredibly cucked father, everyone in that family has been traumatized by that mother. The subtext of their lives for years has been "mommy controls everything and can cut your dick off."
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If it was all made up it's in fact quite funny that their idea of what's a tragic story of troonism in early age is is something everybody immediately recognised as the story of someone with obvious signs of sexual abuse. Kinda like someone, say a woman, explaining she's promiscuous because she chose to start having sex with her uncle since she was 12. "No, you don't get it: I liked it and wanted it, he didn't force me, ok, bigot?".
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Agreed.
Some people seem to forget that the twins are just 2 years older than Jazz. Lena Dunham is 8 years older than her sister. According to the story of Jazz's "gender journey" he started this weird sexual-ish acting out when he was between 2 (liberal estimate) to 4 (conservative estimate). Sander and Griffen would still have been pre-schoolers themselves at that age. Could a 5-year-old technically sexually assault a 3-year-old? Perhaps there could be inappropriate touching that might be classified as some kind of abuse, but a child that age is not cognitively advanced enough to be able to conceal their behavior. Lena was 10 when she admitted to stuffing crayons up her infant sister's vagina. Granted 10-year-olds are not great at realizing the long-term consequences of their actions, but that behavior from a 10-year-old toward a fellow human that is essentially helpless displays a staggering lack of empathy on Lena's part.
I don't buy that Sander is/was the cause of Jazz' distress with his body and self-perception. If he was molested, it wasn't by the twins.
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Kinda OT, but often in this thread or Desmond's, we end up talking about sex and small kids and it's so awful... I have no problem talking about sex with my own kids according to their development and in matters of personal care, personal safety, or hygiene. Or answering questions they have... but here, we end up talking about kids being molested and I end up feeling I need to get drunk to carry on.
Meanwhile, all these activists talk so openly about children's genitals. Small children, on top of it. Whenever I taught my kids how to proper wash their own, never I imagined or pictured "mmmh, I hope this has the proper size for when they have sex!" aside from a brief abstract thought that they're healthy so one day when they find someone, they can be happy and have a family.
I have a stomach strong enough to talk about the consequences of this madness and how many kids might have been in fact victims of sexual molestation that's flying very low under the radar. And that's a topic we need to talk about because it's children in real danger. But it still feels very odd and it's a topic I'd rather avoid in my life. And yet, all the activists, the troons, the groomer teachers, they look so gleeful whenever they talk about children and sexuality and how they "express" their sexuality. It's so repulsive.
Meanwhile, all these activists talk so openly about children's genitals. Small children, on top of it. Whenever I taught my kids how to proper wash their own, never I imagined or pictured "mmmh, I hope this has the proper size for when they have sex!" aside from a brief abstract thought that they're healthy so one day when they find someone, they can be happy and have a family.
I have a stomach strong enough to talk about the consequences of this madness and how many kids might have been in fact victims of sexual molestation that's flying very low under the radar. And that's a topic we need to talk about because it's children in real danger. But it still feels very odd and it's a topic I'd rather avoid in my life. And yet, all the activists, the troons, the groomer teachers, they look so gleeful whenever they talk about children and sexuality and how they "express" their sexuality. It's so repulsive.
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Thank you for saying this.
People who have survived childhood sex abuse and/or people who are simply somewhat sane and healthy and/or those who want to protect their children recognize how disturbing all of this stuff is. And yet, these monstrous weirdos, after devoting a lifetime to promoting the castration and cross-dressing of little boys, will point to threads like this one and say "wow, looks like YOU'RE the one obsessed with kids genitals! Over 900 pages, seems pretty sus to me!"
It's like starting a foundation that helps stop FGM and then someone calls you a groomer obsessed with little girls. Like nah, nigga I don't want to have to think of this ever again, wtf. Completely wicked and obviously an attempt to draw attention away from their own bad actions.
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TBH I am more prone to believe that Jazz' early signs of gender non-conformity originated from him basing his behavioral template off of Ari rather than his two more similarly aged brothers, because Ari was likely more available to him. Twins - especially identical twins - tend to be a closed unit. If Jazz had been allowed to develop without interference, I believe it's very probable that he would have outgrown those behaviors in kindergarten when exposed to a more varied group of age peers. Instead his sick family latched onto the idea that he was a "girl in a boy's body" and taught him that his body is "wrong" and needed to be changed.
A while back somebody mentioned that Jeannette also likely received a lot of attention for her twin pregnancy and being a narcissist, she sought to replicate that "success" with her youngest child.
All in all, many small circumstances that would have been minor on their own converged and created the monster that became I Am Jazz, a truly sad and horrific spectacle documented in real time.
A while back somebody mentioned that Jeannette also likely received a lot of attention for her twin pregnancy and being a narcissist, she sought to replicate that "success" with her youngest child.
All in all, many small circumstances that would have been minor on their own converged and created the monster that became I Am Jazz, a truly sad and horrific spectacle documented in real time.
I'm also in the camp that the twins didn't let baby brother into their unit, so he identified with and modeled himself after Ari. In plain language, he played with her and her toys instead. Yes, Jeanette's a narcissist. But I honestly don't understand why the cousin who was close to and involved with the family who also just happened to be a student of childhood transgenderism at the time is so heavily discounted in this. So obviously the key.
Where's this "autobiography"?
Where's this "autobiography"?
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