Poppy Diabolique / Jessica Routhier / Joshua Routhier / Bryce Routhier / Zena & Poppy: Wholesome Degenerates - Middle aged crazy tranny, his polycule of enablers and his BPD filled breakups. Abusive Parent. Fakes having multiple personalities. Serial Sex Pest. Grooms minors and SA victims with furry porn. Fired from their job for being terminally online

[Karellen]

Not content with stanning the two pedos in their midst (Anniegal and Willyotterpedo), Poppy has decided to bury the hatchet and forgive Lily Orchard for posting their work email and doxxing them, which is what led to the initial work complaints and eventual termination, saying that Kiwifarms and their current “stalkers” are so much worse. (Thanks anon for passing me these so I don’t have to create a discord but FYI y’all when you create screenshots do better )


The fact that half a year later Poppy STILL is too dumb to figure out that their behavior is to blame for all their misfortune, refuses to take ANY responsibility for their ridiculous behavior, and now wants to surround themselves with someone as DISGUSTING as Lily in addition to the already dubious characters they already have around them, and then BLAMES people calling out their odious behavior continues to amaze me.

 

[Shiki Ouji]

I know this post was supposed to feature Zena but..

Holy shit Josh’s voice hasn’t changed, like at all.

It was fascinating to watch him standing; he can't take a strong, rooted stance in one place. Instead, I don't think he (or his listeners) realizes it, but his body and motion is working to "hypnotize" his audience

Even his body language is predatory

 

[Poonocchio]

Not content with stanning the two pedos in their midst (Anniegal and Willyotterpedo), Poppy has decided to bury the hatchet and forgive Lily Orchard for posting their work email and doxxing them, which is what led to the initial work complaints and eventual termination, saying that Kiwifarms and their current “stalkers” are so much worse. (Thanks anon for passing me these so I don’t have to create a discord but FYI y’all when you create screenshots do better View attachment 6076937 )
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The fact that half a year later Poppy STILL is too dumb to figure out that their behavior is to blame for all their misfortune, refuses to take ANY responsibility for their ridiculous behavior, and now wants to surround themselves with someone as DISGUSTING as Lily in addition to the already dubious characters they already have around them, and then BLAMES people calling out their odious behavior continues to amaze me.

Splitting is such a fucking bizarre phenomenon. Nothing these raging BPD people say can be seen as anything but fickle, disingenuous and vacuous.

 

[Big Beefus]

It was fascinating to watch him standing; he can't take a strong, rooted stance in one place. Instead, I don't think he (or his listeners) realizes it, but his body and motion is working to "hypnotize" his audience

Even his body language is predatory

There’s like so much to unpack about it, it’s wild. If I were being charitable, I’d just say he was just doing the ADHD shuffle as he spoke, but there’s a predatory vibe here for sure (why does he almost take a full step forward only to immediately step back?). I want to give it a relisten to make sure I’ve got sense of his babble, but I love how his example about being stuck in a pattern is “having the same fight with your partner over and over”, given his discord messaging habits.

 

[Big Beefus]

Not content with stanning the two pedos in their midst (Anniegal and Willyotterpedo), Poppy has decided to bury the hatchet and forgive Lily Orchard for posting their work email and doxxing them, which is what led to the initial work complaints and eventual termination, saying that Kiwifarms and their current “stalkers” are so much worse. (Thanks anon for passing me these so I don’t have to create a discord but FYI y’all when you create screenshots do better View attachment 6076937 )
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The fact that half a year later Poppy STILL is too dumb to figure out that their behavior is to blame for all their misfortune, refuses to take ANY responsibility for their ridiculous behavior, and now wants to surround themselves with someone as DISGUSTING as Lily in addition to the already dubious characters they already have around them, and then BLAMES people calling out their odious behavior continues to amaze me.

This combined with Poppy’s recent Malcolm tirade makes me think Poppy’s splitting over “enemy of my enemy”. Malcolm did a huge stream a week or two ago on LO’S crazy ass “addressing the allegations video” that did pretty well. Poppy could also be so bitter about losing one of his own LO videos that he’s splitting to cope. “Fine you know what? LO is innocent”.

Seems inevitable in hindsight, they both have some weird ideas about what’s publically acceptable behavior and they both get a lot of shit for it. LO seems to at least be smart enough to try to hide that shit. (emphasis on try)

 

[AMHOLIO]

This combined with Poppy’s recent Malcolm tirade makes me think Poppy’s splitting over “enemy of my enemy”. Malcolm did a huge stream a week or two ago on LO’S crazy ass “addressing the allegations video” that did pretty well. Poppy could also be so bitter about losing one of his own LO videos that he’s splitting to cope. “Fine you know what? LO is innocent”.

Seems inevitable in hindsight, they both have some weird ideas about what’s publically acceptable behavior and they both get a lot of shit for it. LO seems to at least be smart enough to try to hide that shit. (emphasis on try)

They should just meet and fuck and we can quarantine their houses so they can only be within a very small radius of normal people.

I love that nothing Lily did TO OTHERS was bad enough to count as so wrong Poppy stopped associating with Lily, only what Lily did TO POPPY. Me, me, me... They likely have more in common than differences anyway.

Poppy is a low iq manipulator and no one in the thread would have sex with him.

 

[MoxieWhoreOn]

IIRC, Milena/Adrian chose that name for the docs. I haven’t seen a trace of Adrian’s online activity and what I hope is that they’re one of the few people just trying to stay FAR THE FUCK AWAY from this shit. Full rainbow take here is that maybe they can live their own life now and not have their name attached to the story of their lolcow dad. Genuinely curious if they’ve been openly hanging around in drama streams like a lot of the other PZU peeps.

IIRC, Milena/Adrian chose that name for the docs. I haven’t seen a trace of Adrian’s online activity and what I hope is that they’re one of the few people just trying to stay FAR THE FUCK AWAY from this shit. Full rainbow take here is that maybe they can live their own life now and not have their name attached to the story of their lolcow dad. Genuinely curious if they’ve been openly hanging around in drama streams like a lot of the other PZU peeps.

I’ve seen someone who goes by Spawn in the Malcolm streams sometimes but I don’t think it’s ever been confirmed 100% it’s THE Spawn.

I prefer to call them Spawn because yes, I know what their name is but I do not want them associated with their terrible parent as much as I can help it.

Same, and this may have already been said, but I'm pretty sure on Tumblr earlier this year it was stated that "Spawn" was Adrian's chosen online name?

 

[Knock-off Ramona Flowers]

Poppy's willingness to truce with Lily is really fucking gross to me. Isn't the reason most people know about you because you interviewed someone who made rape allegations against Lily? And that's all out the window because you had a falling out with said victim? Really shows his priorities.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Poppy's willingness to truce with Lily is really fucking gross to me. Isn't the reason most people know about you because you interviewed someone who made rape allegations against Lily? And that's all out the window because you had a falling out with said victim? Really shows his priorities.

As we all know, rape victims love to side with accused sexual abusers. All rape victims want to accept belligerent and at the very least overly sexual people into their lives. Now Poppy would have said "get away from me, sexual abusing scumbag!" if Poppy was LYING about being raped, he's a certified therapist and knows the difference.

Spoiler

That was so stupid and scummy sounding I can't continue. Poppy is treating this like he would any normal, non-sexual abuse related trauma like it was all a lie and attack on Lily because Poppy was mad at Lily, not because Poppy believed Courtney or any of his other detractors. It was just revenge ammo, nothing more, teehee, I have learned my lesson and have been humbled, LET'S BE FRIENDS BECAUSE NOW I HATE YOUR SISTER AND KIWIFARMS TOO!

Both are intolerable walking trash fires of human waste, and so are their main partners. They're idiots who want both love and affirmation but have to lie about their horrific sex pest and general asshole nature or attempt to normalize it to get those sweet, sweet asspats... all while doing things they condemn verbally.

I hope Noehflake and others find satisfaction in their lives and peace for their mistakes. I hope Poppy and Lily form a suicide pact or more hilariously, get arrested and spend a long period in jail away from social media and people they could hurt.

 

[Karellen]

This combined with Poppy’s recent Malcolm tirade makes me think Poppy’s splitting over “enemy of my enemy”.

I’m not too familiar with the Lily lore, but from what I understand they used to get along (or at least Poppy wanted to), but then Lily blocked Poppy on twitter, which led to the initial fallout and Poppy covering Lily on stream initially.

Much of Poppy’s style is copied from Lily. Their opening music is from Lily. I’m also pretty sure Poppy uses artwork from Lily in their opening scenes; the glaring stick figure with a notebook is definitely from Lily (copyright strike??).

I believe it was last November that Lily dropped Poppy’s work dox; Lily did it because it came to light that Poppy was creeping on Courtney. Noehflake has said that when she made her initial complaint to Poppy’s office to not include anything prior to November of 2023, so it’s likely someone emailed Poppy’s work using the info Lily provided around that time (there were multiple known complaints when Noeh emailed in early 2024)

Tl;dr, Poppy wants to be friends with a pedophile dogfucking rapist who doxxed them and is one of the primary reasons they got fired.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Tl;dr, Poppy wants to be friends with a pedophile dogfucking rapist who doxxed them and is one of the primary reasons they got fired.

Listen, it's hard for Poppy to find friends who also like being creepy, Joshy is willing to forgive a lot as long as you too enjoy being a massive degenerate sex pest.

If Lily snubs him again it would be perfect.

 

[Shaneequa]

Yo, this has nothing to do with P&Z, but this thread the closest thing because this guy is one of Liana's dingleberries who, in turn, is a P&Z dingleberry.

Asher is an epic debate bro gay furry goes on hours-long tirades against Christianity. Scroll through his Xitter to get a feel of his ~energy~.

Xitter (Asher Wolfstein)

Now, I've been "aware" of Asher for a little bit, I became interested in him cause someone posted a link to him suicide baiting a while back and in that thread he confessed, unprompted, that his therapist had recommended (read: forced) that he get ELECTROSHOCK FUCKING THERAPY (like its the goddamn 1940s) because they believe him to be dangerous.

I check up on him every once in a while cause he's funny and he recently published a blog post that serves as an autobiography of sorts.

Link to his personal website
Link to archive

In this blog post he goes over the most interesting parts of his life, notably the ECT, him being a cluster B (no shit), the fact that he got BANNED from his college/uni (so Chris-Chan of him, tbh) and a shocking little snippet that prompted me to make this post today.



Text:

I will give one example, though: I have sexual violence in my past as a very young child, but rather than being the victim (which would be more acceptable), I am the perpetrator. You didn’t see that one coming, did you? See what I mean? Either way, although I regret my wrongful actions, I am scarred just as much as any other child who’s been disturbed in such a way.

Ok, will any kiwi-sister who is versed in schizo-babble please enlighten me on WHAT THE FUCK this means?

Is he confessing to being a sexually violent pedo, a sexually violent child, both? Is he saying he was preyed upon and fears he will continue the cycle?

 

[Justafish]

Ok, will any kiwi-sister who is versed in schizo-babble please enlighten me on WHAT THE FUCK this means?

Is he confessing to being a sexually violent pedo, a sexually violent child, both? Is he saying he was preyed upon and fears he will continue the cycle?

This is an admission to child molestation when he was a kid. Bit of a PL but I've known a few people in passing who used this retarded fucking backwards speak to obscure the fact they hurt a kid. It's transparent in the fact he doesn't say what the encounter was like and tries to brush over it by acting like it's a "twist"? No, retard, you're a child rapist. Rope yourself.

Him talking about regret is just to cover his ass. Males who admit to committing COCSA like to act like it's a grey area or their victim wanted to be molested, so this guy is retarded and expects sympathy for raping a child even younger than him when he was a kid.

I'm unsure about the stats on this, but in my anecdata, it is rarely female children initiating COCSA. It is nearly always males initiating it. It's easier to be a molester if you have a penis.

But Poppy knows all about that. That's why he doesn't care there are pedophiles and men who admit to raping children in his audience. They're all cut from the same predatory cloth.

 

[Big Beefus]

This is an admission to child molestation when he was a kid. Bit of a PL but I've known a few people in passing who used this retarded fucking backwards speak to obscure the fact they hurt a kid. It's transparent in the fact he doesn't say what the encounter was like and tries to brush over it by acting like it's a "twist"? No, retard, you're a child rapist. Rope yourself.

Him talking about regret is just to cover his ass. Males who admit to committing COCSA like to act like it's a grey area or their victim wanted to be molested, so this guy is retarded and expects sympathy for raping a child even younger than him when he was a kid.

I'm unsure about the stats on this, but in my anecdata, it is rarely female children initiating COCSA. It is nearly always males initiating it. It's easier to be a molester if you have a penis.

But Poppy knows all about that. That's why he doesn't care there are pedophiles and men who admit to raping children in his audience. They're all cut from the same predatory cloth.

Of course it’s this thread where I learn the acronym COCSA. If you took the time since I started following the Poppyverse (a few months ago) and my whole life prior to that, I’ve definitely heard more way about COCSA cases in just these past few months. The extended Poppyverse isn’t just a rabbit hole, it’s the abyss.

 

[Justafish]

Of course it’s this thread where I learn the acronym COCSA. If you took the time since I started following the Poppyverse (a few months ago) and my whole life prior to that, I’ve definitely heard more way about COCSA cases in just these past few months. The extended Poppyverse isn’t just a rabbit hole, it’s the abyss.

Poppy himself admitted to sexually abusing a female relative of his. It does not surprise me at all that this is the audience he's courting. Or that he's suddenly fine with Jerry Peet, someone he dragged over the coals for raping his kid sister. Poppy is so pathetically transparent with how conditional his hatred for rapists and child molesters are. Someone a decade younger than him dumps him after he browbeats them into pity sex? RAPIST! Someone has a documented past of raping children, sometimes even relatives? Ah, water under the bridge. Everyone makes mistakes! Welcome to the Poppycule!

 

[Shaneequa]

tries to brush over it by acting like it's a "twist"?

He says that like it's a heehee cute little fun fact abt me so quirky xD instead of what it actually is.

 

[MoxieWhoreOn]

Not content with stanning the two pedos in their midst (Anniegal and Willyotterpedo), Poppy has decided to bury the hatchet and forgive Lily Orchard for posting their work email and doxxing them, which is what led to the initial work complaints and eventual termination, saying that Kiwifarms and their current “stalkers” are so much worse. (Thanks anon for passing me these so I don’t have to create a discord but FYI y’all when you create screenshots do better View attachment 6076937 )
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The fact that half a year later Poppy STILL is too dumb to figure out that their behavior is to blame for all their misfortune, refuses to take ANY responsibility for their ridiculous behavior, and now wants to surround themselves with someone as DISGUSTING as Lily in addition to the already dubious characters they already have around them, and then BLAMES people calling out their odious behavior continues to amaze me.

Funnily enough, your critique right there is exactly what Lily Orchard thinks of Poppy, when they said on that stream clip (a page or two back) that they'd never known anyone so unwilling or unable to own their own bullshit as Poppy. Guess Pops didn't hear that before posting that psycho Twitter paen to Lily's noted compassion and honor, etc.

I can guess what's going to happen: Lily will see or hear about it and will not at all gently remind Poppy that they aren't friends, will never be friends and in fact Lily still (stupidly, but anyway) considers Poppy to be a stalker.

 

[Poonocchio]

Poppy himself admitted to sexually abusing a female relative of his. It does not surprise me at all that this is the audience he's courting. Or that he's suddenly fine with Jerry Peet, someone he dragged over the coals for raping his kid sister. Poppy is so pathetically transparent with how conditional his hatred for rapists and child molesters are. Someone a decade younger than him dumps him after he browbeats them into pity sex? RAPIST! Someone has a documented past of raping children, sometimes even relatives? Ah, water under the bridge. Everyone makes mistakes! Welcome to the Poppycule!

I will never understand why they freely share this information and aren't deeply fucking ashamed and horrified by it like I'd imagine one should be. Obviously a child doing very fucked up things like this is indicative of a very sad and damaged childhood, but even so there's absolutely no remorse or guilt there for actions stemming from that, which I would think would make even thinking about that shit too disturbing for someone truly repentant of their experiences.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I will never understand why they freely share this information and aren't deeply fucking ashamed and horrified by it like I'd imagine one should be. Obviously a child doing very fucked up things like this is indicative of a very sad and damaged childhood, but even so there's absolutely no remorse or guilt there for actions stemming from that, which I would think would make even thinking about that shit too disturbing for someone truly repentant of their experiences.

I think there's something wrong in their brains that has them think of other people as objects instead of beings who think like them. They're either objects to use or obstacles to get around/destroy.

I think some find using other people for sex as natural as sleeping and eating since it's a bilogical urge they have and need to satisfy, and their theory of mind is bad so they think everyone sees it the same way, sometimes even after told otherwise. Others are likely low key bragging about it since they see it as a conquest/accomplishment, which is super evil. It's one of those things where it might have to do with damage to the brain or underdevelopmemt of some parts that causes it - brain scan studies on BPD and NPD turn up interesting results.

 

[MoxieWhoreOn]

Listen, it's hard for Poppy to find friends who also like being creepy, Joshy is willing to forgive a lot as long as you too enjoy being a massive degenerate sex pest.

If Lily snubs him again it would be perfect.

Oh Lily will either ignore or snub Poppy again, I am 100000% sure of that.

Aside from I believe Lily being genuinely sincere (well that felt gross to type out) about only wanting to be left alone from Zoppy, Lily also has an odd habit of....how to put this? Showing animosity towards those who harass Courtney. Like a "that's my sister and only I can abuse my sister" sort of vibe, but in the grossest way possible.