Law Sandy Hook families want to seize Alex Jones' social media accounts - Welp

NEW YORK, June 13 (Reuters) - Families of the Sandy Hook massacre victims want to seize Alex Jones' social media accounts in his bankruptcy, saying that the conspiracy theorist's frequent posts to fans are a key part of the Infowars business being liquidated to pay Jones' debts. Jones, who filed for bankruptcy protection 17 months ago, has given up on trying to reach a settlement that would reduce the $1.5 billion that he owes to the relatives of 20 students and six staff members killed in the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

Jones and the Sandy Hook families now agree that Jones' assets should be liquidated in bankruptcy. But the families on Wednesday asked a U.S. bankruptcy judge in Houston, Texas, to additionally take control of Jones' X.com account and prevent Jones from using it to promote new business ventures. The Sandy Hook families asked the judge to make clear that the Jones' "@RealAlexJones" account on X.com, formerly known as Twitter, will be among the assets turned over to a court-appointed trustee in charge of liquidating Jones' assets. Jones' X account, which has 2.3 million followers, is "no different than a customer list of any other liquidating business," the Sandy Hook families argued.

They argued that Jones has used the social media account to push down the value of Infowars by diverting sales from that site to his father's DrJonesNaturals.com, which sells health supplements and other products. Jones' attorney, Vickie Driver, said on Thursday that the Sandy Hook families' request was procedurally improper and that Jones would oppose it at the appropriate time. "The Connecticut Plaintiffs have never wanted money from Jones but to silence him," Driver said.

Jones was banned from the platform for nearly five years, but his account was reinstated in December after a user poll conducted by X.com owner Elon Musk. A U.S. bankruptcy judge is scheduled to hear the families' demand at a Friday court hearing in Houston. The judge is expected to convert Alex Jones' bankruptcy case from a Chapter 11 bankruptcy, which offers more control to a bankrupt debtor, to a Chapter 7 liquidation, which would allow a court-appointed trustee to take and sell Jones' assets.

Jones claimed for years that the Sandy Hook killings were staged with actors as part of a government plot to seize Americans' guns. Jones has since acknowledged that the shooting occurred. The judge overseeing Jones' bankruptcy has ruled that most of the debt will survive after a liquidation, because it resulted from "willful and malicious" conduct. Jones has estimated that he has less than $12 million in assets, meaning that he will carry an enormous legal debt even after Infowars and his other assets are sold.

The Sandy Hook families intend to continue collection actions against Jones' future income, and pursue additional payments from Jones' wife, father, employees and other associates to whom Jones' allegedly diverted assets. A Chapter 7 liquidation will enable the Sandy Hook families to enforce their judgments "now and into the future while also depriving Jones of the ability to inflict mass harm as he has done for some 25 years," said Chris Mattei, an attorney for the Sandy Hook families. Jones has said on a June 7 broadcast of The Alex Jones show that Infowars is "overrun" and "will be completely worthless" without him. He encouraged listeners to buy products from DrJonesNaturals to support his "future" and make sure he can continue to broadcast after the shutdown of Infowars. "I've already sold everything but my house," Jones said on June 7. "I'm down to my last moves on this."

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Guys, you have to understand, this is TOTALLY not an attempt to use civil procedure to subvert the 1st amendment.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

God Damn, these actors must be making Friends money to keep the act up this long.

 

[Ghost of Biden]

I’m looking forward to infowars bulletproof backpacks.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

As a reminder, while Alex Jones is a grade-a moron, there's some evidence that something fishy took place at Sandy Hook. There was a shooting, no doubt about it, but exactly who did what, and why, is in doubt.

 

[GumballFapper]

Holy fucking grift, they got a billion and still want more?

Can't believe they got me siding with a conspiratard

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

These people are proving that the gay frog guy is right.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

These people are proving that the gay frog guy is right.

It's hard not to think that they are hiding something.

It's becoming harder to sympathize with these people. I never thought "My child was murdered in school by an autistic nutcase" is a club any parent would want to belong to, but there you go.

It's like pol's razer, if Sandy Hook happened exactly how they said it was wouldn't they be more concerned with the guy who killed their children or heroizing the first responders? They've become so obsessed with trying to destroy Jones and pushing gun control that whatever memory of their children doesn't seem to matter to them anymore.

 

[Sniperwoof]

A literal billion dollars isn't enough for these greedy pigs.

Fuck them, this isn't even about their children anymore.

 

[DoomsdayElite]

It's hard not to think that they are hiding something.


It's like pol's razer, if Sandy Hook happened exactly how they said it was wouldn't they be more concerned with the guy who killed their children or heroizing the first responders? They've become so obsessed with trying to destroy Jones and pushing gun control that whatever memory of their children doesn't seem to matter to them anymore.

Their children are an afterthought. Once they smelled an easy payday, that was it.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

A literal billion dollars isn't enough for these greedy pigs.

Fuck them, this isn't even about their children anymore.

That's why you see all those ads with that bald FBI agent Mark Barden talking about wanting gun control and to donate to them. Surprised he hasn't been unmasked.

 

[WonderWino]

This isn't legal or legally enforceable. You can't stop someone from having social media accounts, you can't award them to someone else. They are literally tied directly to your personal identity. There is no purpose to attempting to do so other than either using them impersonate the owner of the account or post nonsense under their identity, which is illegal or to try to shut them up, which is also illegal. They also have no monetary value and are not legal assets subject to seizure. To say nothing of the fact there is nothing stopping anyone from simply creating another one. Its not like they could go after that either, that would be instant harassment and an instant first amendment violation

This level of retardedness is like your wife trying to get your facebook and twitter accounts in your divorce settlement. She'd be told to fuck right off with that kind of lunacy

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

How much is @XJosh worth?

I'd say between $250,000 and $6 million.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

As a reminder, while Alex Jones is a grade-a moron, there's some evidence that something fishy took place at Sandy Hook. There was a shooting, no doubt about it, but exactly who did what, and why, is in doubt.

The best and most plausible theory I ever heard on Sandy Hook was that it was a legit and organic school shooting, but the Obama administration used it to unleash a entire new type of glowniggery on the world by deliberately stoking conspiracy theories so they could then discredit and vilify alternative media and skeptics.

https://www.unz.com/runz/alex-jones-cass-sunstein-and-cognitive-infiltration/

 

[Escaped Abortion]

Honestly, they deserve their dead children. Fuck these assholes. I hope eventually karma gets back to them, maybe while on a boating trip with Obama or Hillary.

There's no excuse for stifling free speech. From anyone. Letting lawfare destroy people you might personally disagree with is a devil's bargain that's only going to imprison us all.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Geeze, at this rate, one would think Alex Jones was the one pulling the triggers at all mass shootings in the past decade and a half.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

I hope the Sandy Hook families do the one thing their children never did.

Die.

 

[TowinKarz]

A literal billion dollars isn't enough for these greedy pigs.

Fuck them, this isn't even about their children anymore.

Well, to be fair, they're NEVER going to collect a billion, and they know it.... but they certainly thought this deficit could be forgiven by being traded for ritualistic humiliations. Like a guy in so deep with his bookie, he has to start doing "favors" like laundering their money and leaving his employer's back doors unlocked.....

But, that hasn't happened, Jones is still maddeningly not living in a refrigerator under a railroad bridge, pathetically begging favors of the Don.

Those who thought he would are now coming down off that endorphin high of "winning" in court and realizing that no, you can't put someone on the hook for more than they could ever make across several lifetimes, AND jail them/seize their assets down to their underwear when they can't come up with the cash.

And they don't like it.

They LIKED having him metaphorically bent over their knee, run through the muck in all the papers, the amount they decided he owed for his insolence growing larger and larger each day as they added more "0"s to his debt, but it ultimately didn't kill him, didn't cause him to vanish in puff of purple smoke and a last scream of 'Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!", didn't even seem to make him slow down for one lousy second.....

So they want to do it again to reassert their flagging morale.

They want him back in court where they can peck, and poke and prod him because they LIKE that. They are addicted to humiliation of their enemies. To the point they no longer see reality and think pragmatism is cowardice.

Like Hillary in 2016 going back to California again and again? They want to go back to court for some more wins and more cheering crowds to meet them upon leaving for the day to tell them how great they all are and how big that statue they'll surely someday get will be.

They're willing to destroy ANYTHING they can within 5 degrees of him to keep the "wins" coming.

Why? Because their own ideology can't square the circle that you can "win" as hard as they have, and have nothing of consequence to show for it but uncollected judgements..... their whole lives have been spent in the embrace of a worldview that says "you are entitled to destroy another person if they have the wrong opinions, because that means they're evil and you'll always win! You'll win so much you'll practically never have to work another day in your life! Utopia may even arrive at last because of the heroics YOU did!!!!!" But now? They're wondering where all the "destruction" and "always win" they were promised is? The hero can't lose!

I don't know if they were sold by their attorneys on some false notion that Jones would end up in a debtors prison by now?

Or they thought they'd have driven him to suicide by now or that he'd be dead by vigilante mob?

Or just assumed assorted "Bad things" would now always happen to him, HOW could they not when you're TEN figures in the hole?????

Either way, their rage is one where they just can't admit that they made a misstep, they read the room wrong, or that they just didn't get all that they wanted.....

America, for all it's faults, is not a socialist country where traitors to The Party get a gulag/bullet, no questions asked and the courts are merely performative.

And courts are not social media where the loudest complainer with the fastest hands on the "report" button and with a few sympathetic friends in the system gets their way all the time.

We still live under the rule of law and rules of evidence and procedure still rule in court.

They FREAK and then double-down when forced to confront this.

Because to acknowledge otherwise is to be forced to admit that the Right Side of History (tm) is not coming to save them.

 

[tehpope]

This isn't legal or legally enforceable. You can't stop someone from having social media accounts, you can't award them to someone else. They are literally tied directly to your personal identity. There is no purpose to attempting to do so other than either using them impersonate the owner of the account or post nonsense under their identity, which is illegal or to try to shut them up, which is also illegal. They also have no monetary value and are not legal assets subject to seizure. To say nothing of the fact there is nothing stopping anyone from simply creating another one. Its not like they could go after that either, that would be instant harassment and an instant first amendment violation

This level of retardedness is like your wife trying to get your facebook and twitter accounts in your divorce settlement. She'd be told to fuck right off with that kind of lunacy

That's always been the left's modus operandi. Do something blatantly illegal. Wait for the courts to catch up to you. Have them give you a slap on the wrist. Continue until you rule over everything.

Until the courts give out some actual fucking consequences, like length jail sentences for shit like this, this tactic will continue.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I hate posts that quote 10 other posts and give their hot takes on a bunch of stuff, but dammit a lot of people ITT say some interesting stuff and this topic has riled me up:

WTF is this shit. I hate this world now. We have headland starwars wrecking all our shit, and these people saying if you even dare say anything bad means you have to die.

This is the logical end of cancel culture. Especially since now people are becoming inured to being accused of racism or whatever, the next step is full unpersoning through civil and corporate means.

The sheer insanity of these attacks on Jones have done more to convince me that Sandy Hook was fake than anything Jones ever said.

As a reminder, while Alex Jones is a grade-a moron, there's some evidence that something fishy took place at Sandy Hook. There was a shooting, no doubt about it, but exactly who did what, and why, is in doubt.

As to these two points, my belief is Sandy Hook was real. The parents grief and their dead kids are real. But the impetus behind this unrelenting assault on Jones is motivated behind the scenes by Other Powers. Jones must have been right on some other things. Gay Frogs, jet fuel can't melt steel beams but Saudis can, Reptilians from Arcturus, something. And some Powers want him gone and are ginning on the parents and lawyers to end him and his voice.

This isn't legal or legally enforceable. You can't stop someone from having social media accounts, you can't award them to someone else.

You would thinks so, my friend, but in case you haven't noticed, we live in now, and our legal system has become something like Lewis Carroll would write in the Alice books. Nothing is impossible now.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Honestly, they deserve their dead children. Fuck these assholes. I hope eventually karma gets back to them, maybe while on a boating trip with Obama or Hillary.

There's no excuse for stifling free speech. From anyone. Letting lawfare destroy people you might personally disagree with is a devil's bargain that's only going to imprison us all.

A boating trip with Obama or Hillary or they said by accident the n-word in front of a black man. Also I wish some James O'Keefe wannabe could interview them with a hidden camera and tell some secrets after one drink too many.

 

[Rich Evans Simp]

I agree that this is insane and unconstitutional. But I don’t agree that the parents are acting suspiciously. Irrationally, yes. If my child was murdered and someone said she never existed, I would want to bash them until they were a pile of goo. I’d use every ounce of my clout to ruin them until they were begging and bleeding in a gutter. Not sure why this is hard to understand if you’re a parent?