US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Snekposter]

He looks like an 80 year old man who was turned into a vampire then locked in a coffin for 4000 years

At least when Prince Philip degenerated it was into a ghoul, which are still technically alive.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Joepedo is at the G7 in Italy, and seeing these faggots try and protect him is sad. Very disrespectfur to Trump-sama, Japan! The japanese translator in the back just looks like he's seeing the futility of politicans up close and is trying to hold back a laugh.

Meloni seems to be playing the role of caretaker/nurse. Good, a worthy fate for such a traitorous cunt. I hope Biden shit his pants right in front of her.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Jimmy Carter's time might be within the month, this is rough:

I am sending my energy to the Peanut Farmer because the idea of Carter outliving Biden is extremely funny to me.

At least when Prince Philip degenerated it was into a ghoul, which are still technically alive.

Phillip looked physically worse but mentally he was much better. He was still talking and having conversations until almost the last few days.

 

[verissimus]

At least when Prince Philip degenerated it was into a ghoul, which are still technically alive.

He still had a sense of humor at old age.

 

[X Prime]

ACLJ was saying that Thomas's separate statement had an important bit.
Since this was thrown out on standing, that the individual affected needs to sue, not the group doing it on a hypothetical person or persons, this would mean that Planned Parenthood and others wouldn't be able to sue on behalf of miscellaneous women seeking abortions, which is apparently a big method of operation for getting abortion law rulings.

You forget that it's (D)ifferent when the left does it.

Show me when a case from Planned Parenthood gets tossed out by SCOTUS on the same basis and you'll have a point. Until then, it's empty words.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

You forget that it's (D)ifferent when the left does it.

Show me when a case from Planned Parenthood gets tossed out by SCOTUS on the same basis and you'll have a point. Until then, it's empty words.

you may notice there was nothing in my post about "and here's why I expect this will actually come to pass"

 

[Screamer_2]

I really hope he debates Orange Man
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If something occurs, I don't think it would meet the definition of a debate. I assume they'll just say, "It doesn't fit the dignity of the office to debate a convicted criminal."

 

[X Prime]

you may notice there was nothing in my post about "and here's why I expect this will actually come to pass"

A fair point. I am used to that kind of omission actually meaning someone buys it hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Ghost of Biden]

If something occurs, I don't think it would meet the definition of a debate. I assume they'll just say, "It doesn't fit the dignity of the office to debate a convicted criminal."

I wonder if they will snub Trump’s inauguration ceremony.

 

[Screamer_2]

I wonder if they will snub Trump’s inauguration ceremony.

If/when Trump wins, do you really think they'll let him have an inauguration?

 

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If/when Trump wins, do you really think they'll let him have an inauguration?

They didn't in 2021, so, who knows about 2025.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

A fair point. I am used to that kind of omission actually meaning someone buys it hook, line, and sinker.

tbf even they can be pretty realistic about "now yes, this would matter if the rules were enforced equally, but it's probably worth at least pointing out even if we're in clownworld"
they're very Greatest Ally but they're not bad for takes about SCOTUS 5d chess, they argue at the supreme court often enough they got cited in the Dobbs decision, so if they say "woah, Thomas going hard on this is some shit" it's probably a little more interesting than some rando

 

[Gehenna]

The DOJ has laid out its Garland protection strategy.

Garland, you fucking idiot.

So, at the exact time they have multiple cases against Trump which they are now desperately hoping to get anything out of, almost all of which have some level of executive privilege as a defense, after you and your crony's have spent countless hours and dollars trying to tear apart the very idea of executive privilege in the public eye.... you use it for our own defense.

There is no way this doesn't backfire. When they do the "it's okay when we do it" stuff it is never -at the same time- as the thing they are being hypocrites on. This is important to their strategy as they pair doing it with an obfuscation media blitz. Effectively gaslighting the public about what happened to make their memories feel fuzzy on it. The public is left with the impression that they are not sure why its different but it is different, and since nothing is refreshing their mind on the truth it stays that way.

This. Doesn't. Work. When. It's. Still. Ongoing.

This creates a situation where both are fresh in the publics mind and therefore sharp in focus. So there is no good result here, it backfires no matter what. Either they call bullshit on Garland's defense ruining his public credibility, and putting light to his shadiness. Or they in turn view Trump's prosecution as wrong and he gains support of people who thought the charges legit but now view them as lies.

Both of these are horrible outcomes! They both have massive knock on effects that are entirely deleterious. Why would you do this!?

 

[The Last Stand]

Garland, you fucking idiot.

Who is Garland (no Judy) and what did he do?

 

[tehpope]

Who is Garland (no Judy) and what did he do?

Merrick Garland. Head of the DOJ, attorney general. and he refused to release the tapes of Biden and his biographer. They releases transcripts of them. But congress wants the real deal.

 

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This creates a situation where both are fresh in the publics mind and therefore sharp in focus. So there is no good result here, it backfires no matter what. Either they call bullshit on Garland's defense ruining his public credibility, and putting light to his shadiness. Or they in turn view Trump's prosecution as wrong and he gains support of people who thought the charges legit but now view them as lies.

Both of these are horrible outcomes! They both have massive knock on effects that are entirely deleterious. Why would you do this!?

Those outcomes are second order effects. Those don't exist in the leftist mind.

In the leftist mind, Garland can claim Executive privilege and all that happens is the DOJ goes away. It sets no precedent, it affects nothing else in the world. He does X, gets Y result, that's it.

That's as far as Garland is thinking, if he's even thinking anything beyond "fuck you I'm a member of the party you can't use our weapons against me."

Everything you see the left do for as long as I've been paying attention betrays this unspoken worldview. They genuinely believe complex systems are absolutely static unless acted upon, only react in a SPECIFIC static way, can only move in one direction (i.e., more progressive), and only they are allowed to act upon them.

Use lawfare against your political opponents? Your opponents suffer and die, that's the ONLY response allowed. It doesn't normalize lawfare. It doesn't open your tribe up to lawfare. It doesn't shatter the rule of law opening us up to horrible things. Nope, it just destroys our tribe's enemies and that's it.

 

[Bakarina]

Who is Garland (no Judy) and what did he do?

Marrick Garland is the current Attorney General for the US. He was cucked out of a SCOTUS seat during Obama's term and has been salty ever since. He's the one that ordered the raid on Mar-A-Lago and is a giant piss ant with the DOJ as his weapon.

 

[clipartfan92]

A defiant Fani Willis appears to call out her critics in Trump case in speech at Black church
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Kate Brumback
2024-06-13 20:13:43GMT

Spoiler

Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis speaks at Turner Chapel AME church Thursday, June 13, 2024, in Marietta, Ga. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

MARIETTA, Ga. (AP) — Fani Willis called out her critics in a defiant speech Thursday at a Black church outside Atlanta, not naming names but appearing to refer to Donald Trump and others who have attacked the Georgia prosecutor’s investigation of the former president’s efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss in the state.

Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, obtained an indictment last year against Trump and 18 of his allies. She has faced months of criticism over her handling of the case — with some of the attacks playing on racist or sexist tropes — as well as for hiring a special prosecutor, now off the case, with whom she had a romantic relationship.

Speaking to a gathering of Black church clergy and congregants, Willis said friends often express concern for her.

“I live the experience of a Black woman who is attacked and oversexualized,” she said. “See, I’m so tired of hearing these idiots call my name as ‘fanny’ in a way to attempt to humiliate me because, like silly school boys, the name reminds them of a woman’s rear, of her behind.”

Trump has used that pronunciation to mock Willis — whose first name is pronounced FAH'-nee — notably during a rally in Ohio in March when he said “fanny, like your ass,” when talking about her name. His campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday. Willis said her father, “a strong, educated, conscious Black man,” gave her the name Fani Taifa, which she said means “prosperous people” in Swahili.

Willis’ outspokenness in response to critics is not new. But her out-of-court statements have been seized on by defense attorneys for Trump and drawn admonishment from the judge in the case, which is mostly on hold as a Georgia appeals court reviews whether she should be allowed to stay on it.

At the annual planning meeting of the Georgia AME church, Willis told the crowd gathered in the sanctuary of a church in suburban Marietta that friends often express concern about the attacks on her but that she shakes off the ugliness.

“What I’m here to tell you is to not concern yourself with insults of me. I promise you, I don’t concern myself with them,” she told the supportive audience, drawing shouted affirmations throughout her 25-minute remarks. “I am too busy working 15-hour days trying to use every talent God gave me to fulfill my God-given purpose.”

Willis also said that she works hard “to hold all — all, there are no exceptions — who dare to come into our community and break the law accountable.” That mirrors her standard response when she’s asked about prosecuting a former president — that no one is above the law.

The August indictment accuses Trump and the others of participating in a sprawling scheme to illegally try to overturn the 2020 presidential election in Georgia, which Trump narrowly lost to Democrat Joe Biden. Four defendants have pleaded guilty after reaching deals with prosecutors, but Trump and the others have pleaded not guilty.

Republican lawmakers in Atlanta and Washington have targeted her since the indictment, opening investigations into her office. She has had a particularly barbed exchange with U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan, the Republican chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, who has questioned her motivations and demanded that she produce records.

She appeared to take another swipe at Jordan Thursday, saying, “We have politicians that spend no time doing their elected purpose. In fact, we got a clown in Washington D.C. who’s been elected for the purpose to make his community safer and pass laws. But he’s been sitting there for 17 years and passed zero laws.”

Jordan entered Congress in 2007, 17 years ago. His office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Defense attorneys for Trump and others have pointed to a speech Willis gave at a historic Black church in Atlanta in January, saying she inappropriately inserted race and God into the case, potentially prejudicing potential jurors against their clients. Those arguments have come in an ongoing effort to get Willis and her office removed from the election interference prosecution or to have the case dismissed entirely.

The Willis removal effort began with the revelation that she had had a romantic relationship with attorney Nathan Wade, whom she had hired as a special prosecutor for the case. Defense attorneys argued that Willis improperly profited from the case when Wade used his earnings to take her on vacation, resulting in a conflict of interest.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee in March ruled that there was not a conflict that should force Willis off the case, but he said there was an “appearance of impropriety.” He allowed Willis to remain on the case as long as Wade did not, and the special prosecutor resigned hours later.

The Georgia Court of Appeals last month agreed to take up the case and lawyers for Trump earlier this week asked the court to hear oral arguments. Willis’ team on Wednesday filed a motion to dismiss the appeal, arguing there is insufficient evidence to support reversing the lower court’s order.

The case against Trump and the other eight defendants involved in the appeal has been halted by the appeals court while it reviews the lower court ruling. That means the case against Trump, one of four criminal cases against the former president, almost definitely will not proceed to trial before the November general election, when Trump is expected to be the Republican nominee for president.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

The GOP won the gay softball game last night, 31-11.

not to get into it but i sort of naturally assume the GOP has been kicking ass in their gay softball game the last 50 years. the average age of the GOP is like 30 years younger than the Dems as well, and that doesn't even factor in stuff like health.

plus the GOP is so retarded they actually care more about those stupid "fun" events for charity vs actually helping the American people.

 

[The Last Stand]

MARIETTA, Ga. (AP) — Fani Willis called out her critics in a defiant speech Thursday at a Black church outside Atlanta, not naming names but appearing to refer to Donald Trump and others who have attacked the Georgia prosecutor’s investigation of the former president’s efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss in the state.

So much for separation of church and state.