Trainwreck Blair Zoń / Blair Victoria Kristy / iilluminaughtii / iilluminaughtea / illumisoapy / casperthefriendlyfloof - Anti-MLM channel on the decline, destroyed her own reputation + online career due to a misunderstanding

From The Uncanny Valley said:
Oz is a he/they. Just saying
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That's what he said, because Kiwifarms is famous for how much we respect the pronouns of gender non-conforming people.
GenociderSyo said:
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Looks like the person made the donation 5 days ago during the original stream and then waited a week to charge back.
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Absolute dick move on the donor's part. Worst part is Paypal will often side with the sender unless there's proof of delivery, regardless of whether the payment was for something like digital art comms or donations like these, so there's a non-zero chance he gets fucked out of $3k+dispute fees.

And with that in mind, it's pretty likely Blair was the sender.
 
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GenociderSyo said:
Oz said in his latest live stream that her lawyers got back to him and stated she is out of town and would like an additional week to reply.
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The pig is stalling, a deliberate tactic.

GenociderSyo said:
Looks like the person made the donation 5 days ago during the original stream and then waited a week to charge back.
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Paypal would usually side with the "customer". Most of the time, all you have to do is claim something didn't arrive, despite being signed for with photo proof (some couriers do this), Paypal would refund. That's unless the buyer somehow gets the cops involved, or makes a financial abuse complaint with the government. It's one of the worst companies to do business with. Google would reveal a myriad of horror stories. They'll even send a debt collector after you over fraudulent scam refunds.

h2_jGX said:
IIRC, you're allowed to own more than one PayPal.
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Yes and no. Technically no.
If your transactions are tiny, you can get as many accounts as you like. If you're using it to buy stuff only, you can have many accounts.
In Oz's case, his transactions are what would be considered huge. He's receiving money, not sending, that's completely different.
His transactions are in the thousands, if not tens of thousands. In that case, the state will require identity verification in the name of combating money laundering. The threshold is different for each country. For some, it's $1000 and for others, it could be as little as $200 or as high as $3000.

Honestly, at this point, he should try and get a lawyer to handle the fundraisers. It wouldn't surprise me that this "donation" come from one of Blair's associates. She's the kind of vindictive cunt to do this sort of thing.
 
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AltisticRight said:
Yes and no. Technically no.
If your transactions are tiny, you can get as many accounts as you like. If you're using it to buy stuff only, you can have many accounts.
In Oz's case, his transactions are what would be considered huge. He's receiving money, not sending, that's completely different.
His transactions are in the thousands, if not tens of thousands. In that case, the state will require identity verification in the name of combating money laundering. The threshold is different for each country. For some, it's $1000 and for others, it could be as little as $200 or as high as $3000.
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I guess that makes sense. I would've assumed he would've had a personal PayPal account (buying food and paying for bills, etc) and then a business account (receiving money and spending money related to his online business, etc), instead of using one business account that included personal expenses. But I guess it's less common to do that than I thought.

Either way, not his fault that he was charged back. It was just confusion on my end, but it seems like most people mix their PayPal accounts.

I agree it sounds like something Blair would do... or rather someone Blair knows would do. She already legal has stuff going on, so I doubt she was then wanting to commit chargeback fraud to get back Oz. But as we know from her she doesn't have an issue paying others to do weird tasks on her behalf.
 
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AltisticRight said:
Honestly, at this point, he should try and get a lawyer to handle the fundraisers. It wouldn't surprise me that this "donation" come from one of Blair's associates. She's the kind of vindictive cunt to do this sort of thing.
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but that would mean more money, and more fundraising...an ouroboros of fundraising

She's probably trying to either drain his bank, or make him use credit...to ruin it.
 
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h2_jGX said:
I guess that makes sense. I would've assumed he would've had a personal PayPal account (buying food and paying for bills, etc) and then a business account (receiving money and spending money related to his online business, etc), instead of using one business account that included personal expenses. But I guess it's less common to do that than I thought.
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It's probably different from region to region. I have a so called business account but it's basically connected to my personal one without proper distinction. Rather, I never bothered to implement any. Personal accounts are used to transfer funds between family and friends, where no transaction fee occurs, it's also used to make personal purchases. PayPal runs WorldPay which is just a payment processor. Oz actually went through this in detail in his video. Blair the piggy paid her gimp to find the retard word using her account and the payment was without a fee, so it was made as friends and family. This seems innocuous but I can totally see this being an issue in the legality realm.
 
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Update: Blair said no to the settlement and the case goes on now.

Blair disappeared as expected after demanding the extension to think about things. Oz says her lawyers request from Blair was that he had to publicly announce that he lied to try to hurt her reputation and Oz of course refused to do this. Due to this Blair has ghosted him and the case goes on. Oz is live streaming now and at 5:30pm GMT if Blair does not respond the expose is a go.

At the nth hour someone came into the chat threatening to dox Oz and call issues stating they were in contact with Blair. He is now speaking to his lawyer.
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His audience is a special kind of cringe.
 
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GenociderSyo said:
At the nth hour someone came into the chat threatening to dox Oz and call issues stating they were in contact with Blair. He is now speaking to his lawyer.
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Yeah, THAT won't fuck Blair in court. Jay-sus Christ, if this is actually someone acting on her behalf and not just some little faggot doing a false flag for attention, she's even more retarded than I thought.
 
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GenociderSyo said:
Update: Blair said no to the settlement and the case goes on now.

Blair disappeared as expected after demanding the extension to think about things. Oz says her lawyers request from Blair was that he had to publicly announce that he lied to try to hurt her reputation and Oz of course refused to do this. Due to this Blair has ghosted him and the case goes on. Oz is live streaming now and at 5:30pm GMT if Blair does not respond the expose is a go.

At the nth hour someone came into the chat threatening to dox Oz and call issues stating they were in contact with Blair. He is now speaking to his lawyer.
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I seriously doubt Oz being doxed would matter. I don't even think Blair has enough of a fan base left that anyone would seriously fuck with him.
 
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Yeah, telling the world this gay lawsuit from fat whale Blair is fucking with your family and mental state while many also believe she's out for vengeance was a fundamentally retarded move. She's a vindictive fat cunt, you just gave her fuel, that's after her thirty seven main courses for her morning tea.

My advice to Oz is to just milk the fuck out of this like Karl Jobst vs. Billy Mitchell. Milk the whale. You'll be a shameless grifter but with a good reason. He should pivot to something for his channel, maybe video essays or whatever soytube slop people put on as background noise. I'll put it up just because I dislike Blair on an existential level. Every aspect of her is repulsive.
 
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