US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

If the feds made enough promises people would jump at the chance and they could always entice illegals and foreigners with citizenship.

Serving will grant someone citizenship. It's been that way since at least the Civil War where European immigrants coming off the boats would be swarmed by recruiters.

If the feds make promises to anyone, it'll be convicts in prison.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Good fucking luck enforcing the draft with everyone being armed to the teeth (like gangbangers and spics)

that goalpost is going to get pushed when the draft comes. the only guy who did anything with his rifle during government sanctioned riots and lootings was a kid namef kyle rittenhouse. and this includes riots outside the ghetto.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[God of Nothing]

i had to stop because that demo's dickriding was too much

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm still confused as to who we would be fighting against in this war that we get drafted to fight in. China can just do a trade embargo on the States and implode the American economy, and Russia has nukes and high speed missiles and will just hit the major army bases and political nerve centers directly now that they can't avoid escalation anymore.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I heard ordinary Americans Aged 18 - 26 are gonna be drafted when war begins.

17-44

 

[Breadbassket]

If a draft occurs the young are in the front of the line, the old are in the back. The situation would have to be really, really bad to pull in 44 years old. Vietnam only ever called on 18 to 26 years old meanwhile World War 2 for all of its combat and fighting, only men between the ages of 18 to 38 were drafted.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

They hit Guam and Taiwan, they will get what's coming in the form of landing ships.

"Landing ships"? I don't know if you've looked at the navy recently, but it isn't exactly built for amphibious invasions anymore.

 

[WelperHelper99]

"Landing ships"? I don't know if you've looked at the navy recently, but it isn't exactly built for amphibious invasions anymore.

Have you even heard of the Wasp class motherfucker?!?

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

It’s just another case of the powers that be having a complete lack of understanding of the actual people.
This ain’t the 60’s, this ain’t WWII, the default position now is complete distrust of war and of the government. What will they do when no one even shows up for the draft? Throw everyone in jail? Shoot them? Deperson them? Yeah right, you can’t just throw your young male working population in a hole and not have it completely collapse the nation overnight.
I’m not worried about a draft, they can’t convince people to take a shot anymore much less die for the military industrial complex.

 

[Ghost of Biden]

If a draft occurs the young are in the front of the line, the old are in the back. The situation would have to be really, really bad to pull in 44 years old. Vietnam only ever called on 18 to 26 years old meanwhile World War 2 for all of its combat and fighting, only men between the ages of 18 to 38 were drafted.

Those are rookie numbers. This is World War 3. 3 times the fun. It’ll really be 12 to 81 If a man can ride a bike or be president he can shoot a gun.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

It’s just another case of the powers that be having a complete lack of understanding of the actual people.
This ain’t the 60’s, this ain’t WWII, the default position now is complete distrust of war and of the government. What will they do when no one even shows up for the draft? Throw everyone in jail? Shoot them? Deperson them? Yeah right, you can’t just throw your young male working population in a hole and not have it completely collapse the nation overnight.
I’m not worried about a draft, they can’t convince people to take a shot anymore much less die for the military industrial complex.

Not to mention they keep ignoring the reality of and facts of what actual peer-to-peer wars in the modern day might look like.

If a war with China or Russia actually breaks out and for some reason it doesn't go to nukes immediately, it will still mean a complete collapse in trade. You think Ivan will let the massive cargo ships keep feeding the UK and bringing chinkshit to the USA? You think China wouldn't just nationalized everything they have that is american "owned" in their own country?

There is no reality where a war like this happens without a complete collapse of the economy. And China is in no position to handle it either. Russia got away with it because they spent a good 10 years working to built something of a autarky system and hardening their own internals to take the strain of western sanctions and pull outs, and even then they still are getting a shitload of western stuff by just trading through middlemen like India and Saudi Arabia.

We have a bunch of paper tigers convinced of their own strength just huffing copium about WW2 mobilization and Cold War peak readiness as if nothing changed since 1991.

Truth is if shit broke out, it would take about 2 hours for both USA and China to cripple each other into total collapse. One well aimed missile at Three Gorges by the USA, and a few dozen power substation in the USA, add in some cyberattacks on internet banking and infrastructure and it's done.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Those are rookie numbers. This is World War 3. 3 times the fun. It’ll really be 12 to 81 If a man can ride a bike or be president he can shoot a gun.

I have been saying the Ukraine is a proving grounds for two years, and its not limited to the battlefield.

Spoiler: What conscription looks like in the Ukraine

This will be the US when they they start WWIII. You better hope you have women like the hoholinas who rescue their men from the meatcatchers or else your life expectancy will be measured in hours when you're under drone drops, artillery and TOS strikes.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Have you even heard of the Wasp class motherfucker?!?

Yeah, there's 7 of them. That's a grand total of 14 LCACs and 21 LCUs they can carry to theater. It ain't exactly the Normandy invasion.

Assuming the landing craft even survive to reach shore, at best you'd get a few dozen Abrams and maybe a few thousand men on the beach, against 50K+ dug-in Chinese troops, artillery, tanks, and anti-ship missiles, who have near limitless reinforcements heading their way.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Yeah, there's 7 of them. That's a grand total of 14 LCACs and 21 LCUs they can carry to theater. It ain't exactly the Normandy invasion.

Assuming the landing craft even survive to reach shore, at best you'd get a few dozen Abrams and maybe a few thousand men on the beach, against 50K+ dug-in Chinese troops, artillery, tanks, and anti-ship missiles, who have near limitless reinforcements heading their way.

My guy that is what the rest of the navy is for. You bomb them so they can land. There are also smaller landing craft you haven't accounted for, nor airborne assets. You're retarded.

 

[Flan Handler]

We have a bunch of paper tigers convinced of their own strength just huffing copium about WW2 mobilization and Cold War peak readiness as if nothing changed since 1991.

Everyone keeps talking about WW2 and Vietnam, but I say the closest analogy in recent history is the years leading up to WW1, when the monarchies and empires of Europe were exhausted and rotten. They had all these treaties pledging mutual aid to each other… and some otherwise minor incidents snowballed into a continent-spanning meat grinder because the world had changed without the leaders noticing.

And that whole world and power structure, plus a generation of the best young men burned away.

I worry that the feeling we have here, that nothing is real and it’s all unsustainable debt, politics and psychology; I worry that we’re right and some real bad shit is coming. It’s the end of the era that started a century ago and what comes next is unimaginable at the moment.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Yeah, there's 7 of them. That's a grand total of 14 LCACs and 21 LCUs they can carry to theater. It ain't exactly the Normandy invasion.

Assuming the landing craft even survive to reach shore, at best you'd get a few dozen Abrams and maybe a few thousand men on the beach, against 50K+ dug-in Chinese troops, artillery, tanks, and anti-ship missiles, who have near limitless reinforcements heading their way.

the smart thing to do in that situation would be to soften the defenses with nukes preferably with enhanced radiation weapons aka neutron bombs. low yield, low damage and with a 100% fatality rate within a few hours. since a ERW produces high doses of short half life radiation it would be safe for combat troops within a few hours. its essentially a death ray.

I've been reading a book by the creator of the US neutron bomb. its basically a long form rant about the stupidity of the US defense establishment's policy on nuclear weapons which according to him was more concerned with blowing up Russia than killing Russian soldiers, and he seem pretty ass-blasted that the USAF only wanted his bombs for missile defense. He also goes on weird tangents on how humane his neutron bomb but whatever.

pretty good book so far, i recommend it if you are interested in this stuff. its availble for free on annas archive.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

My guy that is what the rest of the navy is for. You bomb them so they can land. There are also smaller landing craft you haven't accounted for, nor airborne assets. You're retarded.

Amphibious assaults only really work against enemies that don't have air power or navies of their own, or any modern anti-ship missile systems. China has all of those, and enough soldiers to mount a defense, so trying to invade them with landing craft is pointless. You can't land people fast enough and in anything like the quantity needed to establish a beachhead. We'd need ten times the landing craft and ships to support them, and even then it would probably be a loss.

China isn't Iraq, they aren't going to light tire fires to try to blind our stealth bombers and cruise missiles, or shove their thumbs up their asses while our navy plunks thousands of missiles at their military and infrastructure before landing personnel at their harbors. They do have the capacity to fight back, and would.

pretty good book so far, i recommend it if you are interested in this stuff. its availble for free on annas archive.

Sounds interesting, I'll look it up, thanks!

 

[WelperHelper99]

Amphibious assaults only really work against enemies that don't have air power or navies of their own, or any modern anti-ship missile systems. China has all of those, and enough soldiers to mount a defense, so trying to invade them with landing craft is pointless. You can't land people fast enough and in anything like the quantity needed to establish a beachhead. We'd need ten times the landing craft and ships to support them, and even then it would probably be a loss.

China isn't Iraq, they aren't going to light tire fires to try to blind our stealth bombers and cruise missiles, or shove their thumbs up their asses while our navy plunks thousands of missiles at their military and infrastructure before landing personnel at their harbors. They do have the capacity to fight back, and would.


Sounds interesting, I'll look it up, thanks!

Defeated before we begin. Lmao. You have no idea the kind of firepower we have at our disposal. Nuclear is always a option. We will make beachfall, one way or another.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

We can make all the estimates we want, but you can never foresee exactly how everything will work out.

The 'experts' are often wrong.