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oh no its pipkun said:
Even if a nuke hit LA and only LA and the fallout was only contained to LA., electronics, cars and car part prices would skyrocket in addition to all the other shit that flows through America's Port. it would be an economic shitstorm reverberating throughout the country.
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California has the Port of Oakland and SF. It would be fine.
 
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Cornelius Pop said:
Well of course, that $60 billion is better spent on Israel.
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Israel is the one weakness I worry about when It comes to Donald, but he's probably also the only guy who would say no to them on some things.

Overly Serious said:
The thing is, the deterrence principle is really only necessary when you're under existential threat. It's a "well if we go, you go" button. It doesn't make sense to press it unless you actually have to go. Right now, the USA is under no existential threat from Russia but Russia is from the USA. So if anybody launches strategic nukes it would be Russia. The game theory violation is that the USA should not push Russia into that point but looks like they might.

Now they'd love it if Russia deployed tactical nukes. Because then the taboo would be lifted and the USA would get to play with its own tactical nuke toys which they'd love. But that's a mostly separate discussion.
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civilians dont really know what tactical small nukes look like in action. Everyone thinks it looks like the movies or Japan. The reality is it will look like the explosion that happened in beirut. It's not going to be immediately obvious to the naked eye and governments want it to stay that way. I already believe nukes have been used or prematurely detonated in Ukraine.

I've borrowed a theory that America had tried to false flag a nuke to the Russians but the Ukrainians have had their stockpiles identified and destroyed too quickly to find a way to reliably deploy them. It's not really that crazy when you look at some of the "ammo stockpiles" blown up earlier in the war. Could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.
 
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Michael Wade said:
Israel is the one weakness I worry about when It comes to Donald, but he's probably also the only guy who would say no to them on some things.



civilians dont really know what tactical small nukes look like in action. Everyone thinks it looks like the movies or Japan. The reality is it will look like the explosion that happened in beirut. It's not going to be immediately obvious to the naked eye and governments want it to stay that way. I already believe nukes have been used or prematurely detonated in Ukraine.

I've borrowed a theory that America had tried to false flag a nuke to the Russians but the Ukrainians have had their stockpiles identified and destroyed too quickly to find a way to reliably deploy them. It's not really that crazy when you look at some of the "ammo stockpiles" blown up earlier in the war. Could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.
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I don't buy that for a second. ALL nuclear weapons, regardless of yield have distinct characteristics. like the double flash which Russian and US early warning satellites look for and the fallout, which would have been detected at any number nuclear power plants in Europe and Asia. it would leak. you can't secretly detonate a nuclear weapon.

they were ammo dumps. A million tons of HE, rocket propellant, jet fuel and gasoline blowing up might be worth some kilotons.
 
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Dante Alighieri said:
Fuck it, if this is what it takes to get unrestricted water flow then so be it.
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I not only pulled the restrictor out of my new showerhead but I just went all the way and completely cut the restrictor mount out with an x-acto knife. Shit's glorious. It still doesn't compare to the showerhead that my grandma's house had though. It was actually painful to use lol, I hated showering there when I would mow the lawn for her
 
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mlanguishi said:
It's quaint to think if we'd nuke the Chinese they'd only take out a single city in retaliation even though they can can do over 100 easily. I guess they're just a caring and kind people that would do a minimal action in response.
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I hope someone does nuke those two cities. I was just pointing out California has more than the Port of LA but because its run by retarded and greedy pols that's the only one they route commercial shipping through.
 
Michael Wade said:
civilians dont really know what tactical small nukes look like in action. Everyone thinks it looks like the movies or Japan. The reality is it will look like the explosion that happened in beirut
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A tactical nuke has a yield of 1-50 kt. Fat Man had a yield of 21 kt. Little Boy had a yield of 15 kt. A MOAB has a yield of 0.011 kt.

People would notice something 100-5000x the power of the largest conventional bomb ever used in war.
 
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Romulus augustulus said:
I don't buy that for a second. ALL nuclear weapons, regardless of yield have distinct characteristics. like the double flash which Russian and US early warning satellites look for and the fallout, which would have been detected at any number nuclear power plants in Europe and Asia. it would leak. you can't secretly detonate a nuclear weapon.

they were ammo dumps. A million tons of HE, rocket propellant, jet fuel and gasoline blowing up might be worth some kilotons.
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You forgot about the DU stockpile for the Challengers Russia blew up in the Ukraine. Any talk of radiation was quickly quashed and memoryholed.
 
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The Ugly One said:
A tactical nuke has a yield of 1-50 kt. Fat Man had a yield of 21 kt. Little Boy had a yield of 15 kt. A MOAB has a yield of 0.011 kt.

People would notice something 100-5000x the power of the largest conventional bomb ever used in war.
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There's still crazy people who believe to this day an atomic detonation munition was used in Oklahoma.
 
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