Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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You might be right that some kind of settlement should be considered. My point is that from Nulls perspective, settling despite knowing that this is bullshit must be infuriating to be him.
It seems to be a sunk cost fallacy situation, maybe. It's reasonable to expect that any moment now a Judge will realise that this is ridiculous and Greers case should be dismissed and yet there is no indication it's going to happen.
There should be no settlement beyond "If Russ drops this retardation Null won't pursue damages." Short of that, if this site is to continue in its current form, the only reasonable solution for Josh is to break Russell. Get a favorable ruling and extract as much as possible out of him as a warning to any other lolcow that wants to try their luck.
 
If a settlement included an agreerment to leave his thread untouched and reject future claims to take it down that would be cool enough. But short of giving Null permission for Greer's copyrighted material I don't think it would be worth it or enforceable. As a layman retard.
 
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There should be no settlement beyond "If Russ drops this retardation Null won't pursue damages."
Of course, but as AnOminous says, Null has to look after his own interest too. But that gets into hypotheticals that have not happened yet. Like running out of lawyer money. (Though I like to think that if the defense fund was running low, another fundraiser would be solve it because fuck Russ.)
 
If a settlement included an agreerment to leave his thread untouched and reject future claims to take it down that would be cool enough. But short of giving Null permission for Greer's copyrighted material I don't think it would be worth it or enforceable. As a layman retard.
I'll see if I can explain the situation:
  • The lawsuit is supposed to be about copyright infringement.
  • Any infringing material is kept on a third party Google drive. If copyright was an issue, he would've DMCA'd Google. They're very good at removing infringing material.
  • He claims Null engaged in contributory copyright infringement by refusing to take down links to the Google drives. This is insane, as Null has neither posted those links nor encouraged users to do so.
  • If you read his filings, they have very, very little to do with his purported casus belli. The majority of his filings are him malding about us making fun of him. Even if Null acquiesced and removed links to the infringing material, he would still be mad because we call him names like "Russtard" (which, according to one filing, is a combination of Russell's name and the word "retard." I wonder how long it took him to figure that out.)
  • Russ has claimed in his filings that we troll him, which is nuts for two reasons. First, anyone can claim they came from Kiwi Farms. Second, Null has told his users to not mess with Russ. He didn't do it in a "wink-wink-nudge-nudge" way either- he made it clear users interacting with Russ off the site would not be tolerated.
In short, he's mad that we laugh at him and hold an archive of his lunacy and misdeeds.

Is it possible to settle with an agreement that he can't sue over Kiwi Farms again? Because otherwise he will just Melinda Scott this bitch until the end of times (or a similar injunction happens).
No. The only way he'll settle is getting his thread deleted. But speaking of Melinda, perhaps his history of lolsuits can be used to get him labeled a vexatious litigant, which will cripple future lolsuits.
 
a fight to the death between me and greer, officiated by the Chief Justice.
There was a 2020 custody case in Iowa where the husband invoked trial by combat where he wanted,
two samurai swords for the fight. He said the woman’s attorney is allowed to fight instead as her “champion.” (source)
This Seattle KIRO 7 article mentions husband's pro se argument for combat.
"To this day, trial by combat has never been explicitly banned or restricted as a right in these United States,” David Ostrom claims in court records, noting it had been used as recently as 1818 in a British court.
The resolution to this proposal was interesting. Rather than denying his request because trial by combat is not a remedy he was instead ordered to undergo psychological evaluation. After that the case dropped off the news radar. The Greer case is already off the rails maybe it could have a show stopper ending with the first case of trial by combat in the US this century.
 
Is it possible to settle with an agreement that he can't sue over Kiwi Farms again? Because otherwise he will just Melinda Scott this bitch until the end of times (or a similar injunction happens).
It's actually really really hard to get this, because the courts don't like "blocking future remedies" - even vexatious litigants only get restrictions on how they can file, not denied filing entirely. Basically they have to have a judge approve them filing, and that bar is actually pretty low, basically "this seems reasonable if the facts are as stated and there's not obvious reasons not to" - a bar they fall short of often.
 
Russell wouldn't settle for $10,000 even if the thread was deleted, he also demands NULL PAY THE DIGITAL JUSTICE FOUNDATION'S legal fees, despite them working pro bono, even though @AnOminous said it isn't even really possible for them to represent Russ pro bono with the condition that any settlement he reaches REPRESENTING HIMSELF has to retroactively pay them as if they weren't pro bono.

In no world is Null going to give a red cent to Russ AND pay the DJF for their pro bono work against him, when they can't legally be entitled to that!
There was a 2020 custody case in Iowa where the husband invoked trial by combat where he wanted,

This Seattle KIRO 7 article mentions husband's pro se argument for combat.

The resolution to this proposal was interesting. Rather than denying his request because trial by combat is not a remedy he was instead ordered to undergo psychological evaluation. After that the case dropped off the news radar. The Greer case is already off the rails maybe it could have a show stopper ending with the first case of trial by combat in the US this century.
Sometimes I think these Don Quixotes were born too late and would've been great, honorable men had they lived in their preferred time period, but then I realize if he had flourished in Feudal Japan he'd just get himself killed, or he'd be just as much of a loser in that environment and wish he'd been born in the days of the Ainu or whatever.

I remember seeing the Ex-wife's lawyer saying that even if dueling is still technically not illegal, the courts wouldn't see it as a resolution to the case, but I think that's just being a coward making excuses. You can settle things by arbitration, so I don't think it would've been too hard to sign a contract that says "This custody dispute will be determined by the outcome of this match between the Father and opposition's representation". But I still think the Father would've gotten his ass kicked and lost custody all the same
 
You can settle things by arbitration, so I don't think it would've been too hard to sign a contract that says "This custody dispute will be determined by the outcome of this match between the Father and opposition's representation". But I still think the Father would've gotten his ass kicked and lost custody all the same
The primary concern in a custody case is the best interests of the child, which the result of a combat is completely irrelevant to. The parents can't just say fuck the welfare of the child and sign away the rights of the child to a fair resolution.
 
Russell wouldn't settle for $10,000 even if the thread was deleted, he also demands NULL PAY THE DIGITAL JUSTICE FOUNDATION'S legal fees, despite them working pro bono, even though @AnOminous said it isn't even really possible for them to represent Russ pro bono with the condition that any settlement he reaches REPRESENTING HIMSELF has to retroactively pay them as if they weren't pro bono.

In no world is Null going to give a red cent to Russ AND pay the DJF for their pro bono work against him, when they can't legally be entitled to that!
In the original suit, Russ demanded $3.3 million, because for some reason he believes his terrible songs and lunatic ravings terrible books are worth that much- or they would've been, if not for our thread on him. According to his book, he also seems to think Null was involved with his original Taylor Swift lolsuit, despite the thread being made years later.

As far as the DJF goes, I think he's trying to wrangle them in, and then get payment from Null to pay them off. It works like this: they work pro bono, he wins, he gets money, he pays the ambulance chasers the fees they're demanding. In other words, I think he's offering them money he doesn't have, because Hardin is beating him like a rented mule in the filings.
 
In the original suit, Russ demanded $3.3 million
$5.3 milion plus fees
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The primary concern in a custody case is the best interests of the child, which the result of a combat is completely irrelevant to. The parents can't just say fuck the welfare of the child and sign away the rights of the child to a fair resolution.
This sounds like something a weak ass faggot would say. ANYONE knows that a child raised by a heckin' badass who wins knife fights and all sorts of fights would be much better off than one not raised by such a winner.

Which is why Annabelle is so badly off now. Enjoy irrelevancy, non-combat-won child.
 
Can you have reputational and emotional damage in copyright infringement? Seems weird
Maybe, but they'd have to prove it. It would also possibly be making new law since I'm not aware of any set of circumstances where it would be granted. It would also probably not be under statutory copyright but something like the Visual Artists Rights Act (VARA) which only covers visual works, not text or music.

In any event, even the possible circumstances that would lead to such a claim aren't remotely what Russhole is claiming. If someone read his book and concluded that he's an absolute retard, the reputational damage was caused by him writing retardation. Actual damages are generally limited to reduced income because of factors like the impact on the market for the work.

"Emotional damages" are outright lunacy.

That's why statutory damages are a better claim in a case like this. That said it doesn't really hurt to throw in an unlikely claim for damages on top of one that is at least remotely plausible, so that if evidence comes up in discovery to support it, you haven't waived the claim.
 
I can't wait for the harm to be calculated as hate speech(Technology-Assisted Abuse) from a group/site of people.

edit: stuck -domestic and intimate partner violence part
What is abuse by proxy?
Abuse by proxy is another term for the emotional abuse that occurs in domestic and intimate partner violence. This emotional abuse occurs when an abuser inflicts harm upon the victim through third parties.
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I guess it would be the label
Technology-Assisted Abuse
Technology-Assisted Abuse is using cell-phones, computers, social networks and other electronic tools to stalk, bully, intimidate, frighten, harass or otherwise harm someone.

Cyberstalking: a pattern of threatening behavior or unwanted advances directed at another using the Internet and other forms of online and computer
communications.
Cyberbullying: willful and repeated harm inflicted through the use of computers, cell phones, and other electronic devices.
-Circle back is the appeal that got this case restarted.-
 
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