Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

[Chainsaw Juggler]

Color me shocked this faggot lied about being abused. So he's now just a fat sack of shit, and acts that way because a narcisstic cockswab, no being able to potentially bullshit about this behavior being engrained in his subconscious since childhood. Unbelievable that he's been keeping up with shit since that crappy "Draw My Story" youtube series, the website had going decades ago.

Yes it is all starting to snap together quite nicely now what the "real" Boogie2988 upbringing looked like. He was a spoiled mama's boy who was overfed but they never touched a hair on his head. His brother and sister saw some level of abuse, sister ran away from home, brother moved out and later Boogie moved in with him. It was at this point that Boogie fabricated the house of horrors, the stories of the hammer attack, being pushed out of the moving car, being maimed by a dog, having to jerk off his father, rape under the kitchen table, and more and more. Bryan sees Boogie in a bad state (400lbs, probably depressed), and pities him and probably feeds into and enables the House of Horrors story. At this point Bryan is angry enough with their mother that he doesn't even go to see her on her deathbed, while Boogie waddles over to her bedside.

So Boogie's entire crutch of "just talk to my brother and he'll validate everything" regarding his abuse was a bluff. Boogie's abuse was all a concoction he fed to his brother after moving out, and Bryan didn't witness anything.

 

[3deadniggers]

His brother and sister saw some level of abuse, sister ran away from home, brother moved out and later Boogie moved in with him.

His sister was abused
His brother was abused
When both have left due to abuse... who would be left to abuse?

I don't want to defend Boogie here but the logical conclusion is that the parents abused their kids and focused on another as the last kid escaped the situation. Boogies brother may have taken him in because his parents were abusing him. No where near the degree he claims but the logic follows that he may have faced some level of abuse once he was the only target. The other option is Boogie's brother is also full of shit and neither of them were abused and he takes after Boogie's mentality.

 

[Chainsaw Juggler]

Can we step back a moment and remember this is Keem's podcast here? I know people want a smoking gun to finally nail Boogie on his bullshit but this is also Keem's rage bait podcast. He would pay Boogie's brother to contradict everything Boogie said to drive up clicks. Lolcowlive is a less trust worthy source than wikipedia is because Keem will do anything for attention on that sinking ship.

I'm not saying anything Boogie has said is true either.

Yes but, the same can be said of literally anything out of Boogie's mouth at this point. At some point everyone stops entertaining all these Boogieisms about how he's just a dumb old man who forgets key details, or he was gaslit into remembering things wrong, and instead you just start holding him accountable to all of his story contradictions no matter what context. Because he's profited massively off these abuse stories, and he's weaponized his abuse in the past. So whether Boogie is a liar or he arranged something with Keemstar and his brother to contradict his own stories, the point here is that Boogie is an unreliable source and his abuse stories have no backing from anyone else and a million holes in them and are outright contradicted with newer information.

His sister was abused
His brother was abused
When both have left due to abuse... who would be left to abuse?

I don't want to defend Boogie here but the logical conclusion is that the parents abused their kids and focused on another as the last kid escaped the situation. Boogies brother may have taken him in because his parents were abusing him. No where near the degree he claims but the logic follows that he may have faced some level of abuse once he was the only target. The other option is Boogie's brother is also full of shit and neither of them were abused and he takes after Boogie's mentality.

His brother said he was never physically abused, so hammer time, being pushed out of cars, raped under the table, eyes gouged etc are not logical conclusions.

 

[bile demon]

balloons to 600lbs playing Everquest

Boogie answered the call.

 

[3deadniggers]

. So whether Boogie is a liar or he arranged something with Keemstar and his brother to contradict his own stories, the point here is that Boogie is an unreliable source and his abuse stories have no backing from anyone else and a million holes in them and are outright contradicted with newer information.

I agree he should be held accountable but lolcowlive is kayfabe and it looks bad if you use it as your smoking gun. There's better evidence against Boogie.

 

[Chainsaw Juggler]

I agree he should be held accountable but lolcowlive is kayfabe and it looks bad if you use it as your smoking gun. There's better evidence against Boogie.

Like what? Evidence against Boogie's abuse is always going to come from Boogie or his family. It's inherently untrustworthy, just like the claims of abuse.

 

[derthballs]

I disagree that was was revealed was drama driven, I bet boogie finished that up and thought “he’s confirmed everything I’ve ever said” not realising it’ was in fact a damning true story of what happened. Could some of the physical abuse stories be real after Brian left? Of course. Did Brian come across as damaged from his childhood? Yes. Did he come across as honest - 100% - he was believable and honestly other than boogie chiming in it was a really good show after the first 25 mins.

TLDR - boogie thought it was a win and will be walking up today realising it was a terrible mistake having his brother on.

Of course this will all be retconned in future “ oh I told him what to say” or it will be his proof that Brian confirmed all the abuse on the podcast, we know how he does. Won’t surprise me in the slightest to hear Brian making statements confirming the sexual abuse stories once boogie starts scrambling too, watch this space.

 

[Vibe_Guy]

Boogie yet again providing a huge disservice to victims of domestic emotional neglect, physical abuse and/or sexual abuse while posturing on lolcow live about his non existent principles.

Imo any and all sympathy instantly wanished into thin air after the crypto and hooker debacle. He mentioned recently how alot of his friends are women, which is ironic considering he turned into his mother.

 

[Anstiv]

Okay I'm not going to argue with specific people but it's kind of weird how people are claiming some things were said in the interview that were definitely not said in the interview. I just finished watching it. For example Brian repeatedly affirms that Boogie had it much worse than he did, and wasn't taken out of the home like the sister, so he probably had it the worst of all the siblings.

This is the first time on this website that I've felt like I needed to insist people actually watch the video, and not just read the summaries here, because people here are claiming things were said or implied that were definitely not.

This isn't to say Boogie isn't a massive faggot who I think I've literally wished death upon in this thread before. Just that the discussion does not reflect the content of the interview.

 

[Chainsaw Juggler]

Okay I'm not going to argue with specific people but it's kind of weird how people are claiming some things were said in the interview that were definitely not said in the interview. I just finished watching it. For example Brian repeatedly affirms that Boogie had it much worse than he did, and wasn't taken out of the home like the sister, so he probably had it the worst of all the siblings.

This is the first time on this website that I've felt like I needed to insist people actually watch the video, and not just read the summaries here, because people here are claiming things were said or implied that were definitely not.

This isn't to say Boogie isn't a massive faggot who I think I've literally wished death upon in this thread before. Just that the discussion does not reflect the content of the interview.

For what it's worth, the sister wasn't taken out of the home, they discuss that she ran away at age 12.

I agree that people should watch it (watch an archive that doesn't give the podcast clicks anyway). Your take might not be mine, or someone else's. Bryan did say that Boogie had it worst, but I don't think that's mutually exclusive with some of the takes posted here. I've had loose understanding for a while that Boogie's been telling Bryan that the worst things happened after he moved out. So for Byran to present the idea that Boogie was the most abused isn't foreign to that understanding.

 

[Anstiv]

For what it's worth, the sister wasn't taken out of the home, they discuss that she ran away at age 12.

She ran away and then the mother surrendered the child, presumably to CPS. So "taken out of the home" is a roughly correct way to describe that the mother lost custody of the sister.

Also yeah people should definitely watch the archive and not give any view time to fucking keemstar

 

[bravosouth]

LOL, how the fuck does this guy have a PhD?

Bryan made a big obvious mistake (to anyone with a hint of medical/pharmaceutical/addiction education) while discussing the opioid pandemic on the show; he made the claim that the only two drugs whose withdrawals are capable of killing someone are alcohol and opioids.

This is just flat-out wrong, the real two that are capable of killing via withdrawals are actually alcohol and benzodiazepines like xanax or valium. It's no surprise either once you know that alcohol dependence is treated with a benzo taper, as both drugs act on the same part of the brain (different than opioids). Whereas opioid withdrawal will truly make you wish you were dead, but won't actually kill you unless you already have underlying health conditions.

I'm no doctor but this leapt out at me as soon as he mentioned it, I personally wouldn't put stock in any doctor's opinions who would make such an obvious mistake. If he can get something so basic wrong, imagine what him actually practicing medicine is like...

 

[Anstiv]

I'm no doctor but this leapt out at me as soon as he mentioned it, I personally wouldn't put stock in any doctor's opinions who would make such an obvious mistake. If he can get something so basic wrong, imagine what him actually practicing medicine is like...

To be clear he's a PhD in epidemiology, not an MD, and also not a psychiatrist. People absolutely do die of opiate withdrawal. I don't think most people are aware of how there is an equivalent benzo epidemic alongside the opiate epidemic. So I don't hold that against him much. He's definitely not treating anyone and would only be doing research and teaching.

 

[bravosouth]

To be clear he's a PhD in epidemiology, not an MD, and also not a psychiatrist. People absolutely do die of opiate withdrawal.

Fair enough, he doesn't practice medicine so much as research it. I still don't understand your point, what I described is pretty basic stuff and I'd expect someone in his position with his education to know better.

Not sure what him not being a psych has to do with anything, but as I posted people do die from opiate withdrawal combined with underlying conditions or from benzos/analogues mixed into the dope AKA benzodope. The drugs whose withdrawals alone are potentially lethal are still alcohol and benzos and not opioids, which is why many detoxes regularly refuse alcoholics/benzo addicts until they've been 'clean' for at least a month (or whatever) but readily accept opioid/opiate addicts on day one. The risk of seizures/death is too high with the former, they require much closer medical supervision than the latter. They will even ask if the opioid user knows if they've been using dope with benzos in it upon intake, and if the answer is yes they won't be accepted for the same reasons.

I don't think most people are aware of how there is an equivalent benzo epidemic alongside the opiate epidemic.

Again, not sure what this has to do with anything I posted. Yes there are lots of benzo/benzo analogue/benzo dope addicts nowadays, but that doesn't change that this medical professional made this incorrect point live. He didn't even mention benzos???

 

[Anstiv]

Fair enough, he doesn't practice medicine so much as research it. I still don't understand your point, what I described is pretty basic stuff and I'd expect someone in his position with his education to know better.

Not sure what him not being a psych has to do with anything, but as I posted people do die from opiate withdrawal combined with underlying conditions or from benzos/analogues mixed into the dope AKA benzodope. The drugs whose withdrawals alone are potentially lethal are still alcohol and benzos and not opioids, which is why many detoxes regularly refuse alcoholics/benzo addicts until they've been 'clean' for at least a month (or whatever) but readily accept opioid/opiate addicts on day one. The risk of seizures/death is too high with the former, they require much closer medical supervision than the latter. They will even ask if the opioid user knows if they've been using dope with benzos in it upon intake, and if the answer is yes they won't be accepted for the same reasons.



Again, not sure what this has to do with anything I posted. Yes there are lots of benzo/benzo analogue/benzo dope addicts nowadays, but that doesn't change that this medical professional made this incorrect point live. He didn't even mention benzos???

My writing was unclear, sorry for that. I think he should be more aware of the harm benzos cause. I don't blame him too much because I don't think most people are aware of how harmful they are. As a medical professional (even if not a MD) he should know more. I think there's a reasonable chance he wasn't speaking with overt specificity because of the casual situation? Like I bet if someone had pointed out that benzo withdrawals are also deadly, he would have likely said "oh yeah that is true as well". I just don't think him not mentioning benzos particularly discredits him because of how casual the situation was. But I also understand the perspective that benzo withdrawals are so obviously dangerous that it might be a red flag that he didn't bring it up. I just lean more towards believing that he wasn't being super deliberate with his statements because it was a very casual setting.

 

[Professor_Mongoose]

The important thing to not lose sight of is that boogie is fat.

 

[deadniggerstorage]

Shit I'm sorry, I must have misheard something before/after he said "when mom threw him out of a car" and thought he was talking about his dad and not Boogie. I can't edit or delete my post so I just reported it and said it was incorrect and there is a correction beneath.

The important thing to not lose sight of is that boogie is fat.

Boogie is not just fat; Boogie is too fat to reach down and grab his dick without lifting 50 pounds of gunts, folds and flaps with one hand, and too fat to have PIV sex. Such is life for the HAMSburglar.

 

[Twilight Twill*^]

He’s barely identifiable as a human being.

If some of Earth's population were residing on the moon, would Boogie just be a sprawling mass of loose skin and fat, uncontrollably writhing in zero gravity?

 

[Swole McPole]

To be clear he's a PhD in epidemiology, not an MD, and also not a psychiatrist. People absolutely do die of opiate withdrawal.

It's extremely rare though and generally requires some underlying medical condition. Opiate withdrawals in someone whose only issue is opiate dependence virtually never happens.

If you're dependent on alcohol or benzos in the UK, they'll send you to a detox facility that has 24/7 medical care. If you're dependent on opioids, they'll generally send you to a place that has a prescribing doctor, but they'll generally only pop in a couple of times a week to sign scripts. There's no 24/7 monitoring, no nursing care, none of that stuff.

The handful of deaths that have happened to people in withdrawal have mostly been a consequence of untreated dehydration from vomiting/diarrhoea. Drink plenty of water and you'll be fine.

 

[Nate Higgers]

Boogies overly saturated red face makes his brother look like he has jaundice. He looks normal without the Chief Sitting fence next to him.
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For those of us who are Fatrick-familiar, Boogie’s brother looks like the late, great Pringles Can Jon (the guy for whom Pat’s pregnant wife left his fat ass).

Boogie’s brother looks like Fedsmoker but with short hair. Maybe it’s the sunglasses.