Nearly 40% of web pages from 10 years ago are no longer accessible - Maybe the internet doesn't last forever?

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By Christianna Silva
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Is this the future of the internet?

Every young person is undoubtedly given the advice: Be careful what you put on the internet because the internet is forever.

This advice is pretty good. Posting online can still have grave consequences, from getting suspended from school to losing your job. But life online might not be quite as eternal as we think.

According to new research from the Pew Research Center, 38 percent of web pages from 2013 are no longer accessible, and a quarter of all web pages that existed from 2013 to 2023 are no longer available. This trend is undoubtedly more aggressive for older content, which, I suppose, does make sense. For instance, just eight percent of pages that existed in 2023 are no longer available.

This phenomenon is called "digital decay," a sensation in which links to content across the internet, on government and news websites, on the "references" section of Wikipedia, and even X (then known as Twitter) no longer work. The 404 message is becoming all too common.

For instance, about a fifth of all tweets are no longer visible on the site a few months after being posted, either because the account went private, was suspended, or deleted. Tweets written in Turkish or Arabic were more likely to vanish than tweets written in other languages.

As the Columbia Journalism Review wrote, "The fragility of the Web poses an issue for any area of work or interest that relies on written records. Loss of reference material, negative SEO impacts, and malicious hijacking of valuable outlinks are among the adverse effects of a broken URL. More fundamentally, it leaves articles from decades past as shells of their former selves, cut off from their original sourcing and context. And the problem goes beyond journalism. In a 2014 study, for example, researchers (including some on this team) found that nearly half of all hyperlinks in Supreme Court opinions led to content that had either changed since its original publication or disappeared from the internet."

Link rot and digital decay can make some parts of the internet virtually unusable. Have you ever clicked on a news story and found that most of the tweets embedded in the post are blank, and the hyperlinks are no longer active? It's frustrating — and can hurt our ability to understand subjects and issues with context.
 
I talked about this a bit in my technology subforum thread, when I was working on getting my Nokia E90 running on the modern internet again.

It's easy to take for granted that certain resources will still be there when they're new and prolific, but even just a few short years down the road a lot gets lost. Domains change, users delete posts or get banned, links to downloads of important files disappear into the aether.

There's really no way around it; If you aren't archiving literally anything you could ever potentially imagine needing again in the future, you should assume it won't be there the next time you need it. I had to reconstruct a *lot* of shit just to do something that would have been considered trivial even seven years ago. It was a nightmare.
 
Sometimes I genuinely feel like I can go back, that these old sites in the corners of my mind are still there frozen in time and all I have to do is look them up, but that isn't the case
All the old tweets, forums, webpages, youtube videos, old 4chan board culture
There's no going back, archive only goes so far
*sigh*
But this site is still relatively the same if not better!
 
Makes you wonder. How much would it cost the US government to prop up a public equivalent of Internet Archive, scrape basically everything and preserve it? Even assuming some bloating of cost due to corruption, how long could $1 billion fund that operation? 10 years? If it cost $10 million a year to run, that's 100 years of running a digital archive for like 0.3% of the money we've thrown at Ukraine in the last couple years. Optimistic, but create it with an ironclad directive that they don't editorialize what gets archived or not, none of this politifaggotry that keeps the Farms off of archives.

Even like half of what I just described would be a great positive for the country. Imagine if we had actual public works instead of people getting felonies for driving over the latest city-funded pride street mural.
 
Makes you wonder. How much would it cost the US government to prop up a public equivalent of Internet Archive, scrape basically everything and preserve it? Even assuming some bloating of cost due to corruption, how long could $1 billion fund that operation? 10 years? If it cost $10 million a year to run, that's 100 years of running a digital archive for like 0.3% of the money we've thrown at Ukraine in the last couple years. Optimistic, but create it with an ironclad directive that they don't editorialize what gets archived or not, none of this politifaggotry that keeps the Farms off of archives.

Even like half of what I just described would be a great positive for the country. Imagine if we had actual public works instead of people getting felonies for driving over the latest city-funded pride street mural.

We preserve film. But websites aren't given the same honor. But with how times have changed so much media exists online only and we will lose a chunk of human history to time.
 
We preserve film. But websites aren't given the same honor. But with how times have changed so much media exists online only and we will lose a chunk of human history to time.
Isn't that the point? The Eternal Present? With everything being digitized it becomes easier to - quite literally - rewrite the narrative. No need to pull the article at the last minute or issue a retraction a day later. All you need to do is stealth edit and it's gone forever. Once the archival sites are brought to heel, and this is already happening with the Internet Archive (as pozzed as it may be) being forced to take down long out of date books by "publisher houses," then what?

It's why this site serves a genuine public service, and even the A&N autism at least also preserves and archives news articles in their published state.
 
This is exactly why its key to save media you enjoy. Because eventually, they 404 because someone stopped paying their hosting bill or never bothered updating their site. This is the sad fate of 80% of webcomics back before they all got corralled into major Webcomic sites like LINE and TAPAS.

Its even worse when you account the rampant censorship you see today. Back then, when people beefed with each other on their sites, it was just shitposting. Nowadays, they get the Cathedral on your ass.

I unironically believe that online porn is one of the few things that will survive the centuries.
 
I think we should go back to physical media. It might be limited, but at least you won't have to worry about a '404 Error- This Website or Link Does Not Exist' error message on your books and DVDs.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the internet

and physical media will never be a thing again. They don't even sell pcs with cd drives anymore at most stores. They're too easy to damage and degrade too easily anyway
 
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