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How long has this shit been going on? You can't use reddit with a VPN now?
 
ok but if you hang around the gay scene then you know what you are signing up for so it doesn't really count
>i went to the buttsex bar and ended up getting buttsex!
>how could this happen to meeeeee?
obviously, being in the gay scene without someone trying to rape you would be almost rude
 
hmmm this story sounds tragic. Let's see what's up. Op 14 year old daughter tries to commit suicide after being raped by gangbangers?
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My daughter begged me to let her die.​

CONTENT WARNING: SUICIDE/SELF HARM

(This is an update from a previous post I made; for more context, please refer to my earlier post.)
My daughter Lia (F14) , has been having a tough time with the aftermath of her rape last December. This past week has been particularly the worse for us. It started last Tuesday when a sheriff and another official visited our home. They informed us that one of Lia's rapists, the one who filmed the assault, had shared the video within a group, and now it’s circulating on parts of the dark web. The video, was filmed in Lia's room, it contained identifiable objects that revealed where she went to school. I was devastated upon hearing this news. Lia's reaction surprised me; she didn't cry or show much emotion. Instead, she simply shrugged and said, "I figured," before just sitting there in silence. The officials reassured us that it's uncommon for perpetrators to surface in such cases, but they felt obligated to inform us for safety reasons.
After they left, Lia resumed acting as if nothing had happened, almost overly cheerful. I attempted to discuss it with her several times, but she avoided the topic. This behavior persisted throughout the week until she unexpectedly revealed that she had written a victim impact statement and wanted to read it herself in court, rather than allowing the prosecutor to do so. She felt that since there was no trial, only the charges against the rapist were known, not the details of what she endured. Her statement is a detailed account of that horrific night, but she has yet to read it to me in its entirety because she breaks down in tears every time she tries. That moment was the only time I saw her express emotion all week, until Saturday night.
That evening, Lia appeared unusually cheerful again and mentioned going to bed early around 8 p.m. I didn't think much of it until I received a call from one of Lia’s closest friends' mother. She was concerned because Lia's last message to her daughter was a note expressing love and asking her to check on her. I rushed to Lia's room and found she had attempted to overdose on ZzzQuil. As a nurse, I knew she would recover, but seeing her wake up in the hospital was heartbreaking. She screamed, “Why couldn’t you just let me die? I want to die, Mom. I’m tired of feeling their hands on me. I want it to stop. Please let me die.” They had to sedate her to calm her down. Following this, Lia was placed under a 72-hour psychiatric hold and subsequently transferred to a mental health facility with peers her age. The staff recommended extending her stay beyond the initial hold, but Lia has been struggling, especially with a male staff member—possibly a psychiatrist—who she says is asking invasive questions about her sexuality, causing discomfort. Staff members informed me she isn’t participating in group activities and appears standoffish. They even proposed restricting her ability to contact me as a consequence, though I requested they hold off on implementing such measures. I’m uncertain if the current inpatient setting is suitable, given Lia's apparent difficulty adjusting.
Her plea for her to die continues to haunt me. It's a thought I can't shake. Lia's best friend shared additional details Lia had kept from me—there’s a hurtful rumor circulating that Lia let a train be ran on her, leading to her involving the police out of embarrassment…..Children can be so incredibly cruel.
As far as my other daughter maya (F18), I haven't spoken to her in two weeks. But I did recently discovered why Lia feels indebted to her. Two years ago, I found inappropriate messages on Lia’s phone between her and Maya’s ex-boyfriend. He expressed love for Lia, and also compared her to Maya. He told her she was way prettier than maya and he liked she was her virgin. When I told Maya, she was furious and broke up with him, but she believed Lia had betrayed her by engaging with her boyfriend. Even though Lia was 12 at the time and her boyfriend was 17. Maya still avoided Lia for three months afterward, and despite Lia's efforts to apologize, Maya still holds a grudge. Lia blames herself for damaging their relationship because of this incident.
I’m sharing this too get this off my chest , I've kept these struggles within our family to protect my daughters. I'm exhausted, constantly dealing with new challenges, and unsure how to mend them. Now, I find myself in the difficult position of deciding whether Lia is mentally prepared to speak at her rapist's sentencing. I fear she’ll resent me for this decision, but I question if she’s in a stable enough state to handle a potential traumatic event. Because these boys actually have character witnesses.

Op really buries the lede in this story her 18 year old daughter got arrested for "neglecting" her 14 year old daughter. Their dad died of covid btw
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WIBTA if I kept my daughter’s inheritance from my late husband?​



I have three kids (M24, F18, and F14). My late husband died very unexpectedly four years ago due to COVID. He didn’t have a will, but we had a life insurance policy that provided a $360k death benefit. As his spouse, I received the full amount. I decided to divide the money four ways: I would get $120k, and each of my three kids would get $80k.
At the time, my daughters were both minors, so I told them they could access their full amount when they turned 18. However, if they ever wanted to do something pricey, I would allow them to use some of their share. Most of their needs were taken care of by me. My son was over 18, so I gave him his share right away.
This arrangement was a verbal agreement, and I intended to follow through with it fully. Recently, however, my middle daughter We will call her Maya, was arrested in December for child endangerment because she severely neglected her little sister, leading to something awful happening under her care. She had to use some of her $80k to pay for lawyer and court fees, which left her with about $65k.
Fast forward to today, and my youngest daughter is still struggling significantly. During her check-ups, she scores very low on mental health evaluations and is on a high dosage of antidepressants. She often jokes that if she were to tell us or the doctors how she truly feels, she would be put in a psych ward.
Maya no longer lives with us as I felt her presence was doing more harm than good to her sister. She’s staying with my parents for now but has been begging me to give her the money I promised after she graduated. I’ve been hesitant to do so. My sister, who is familiar with the situation, believes Maya doesn’t deserve the money and that I should use it to stay home longer with my youngest, who will be alone during the day once I return to work soon. With my youngest's declining mental health and school being out, I’m very worried about her.
Maya is about to go off to college, and I know most of the money would go toward that. However, I’m still very angry with Maya for the pain she caused her sister. I’m having a hard time making this decision.
So, WIBTA if I kept her inheritance?
( I’m interested to hear everyone’s perspective just be kind)
EDIT: I didn’t expect so many comments but I reading through all them..to the ones that are asking what would husband say if he was here.. I honestly don’t know that’s why I’m conflicted a part of me want to think he would honestly say for me to give maya the money so she go to college, because college was important to him. But also another part of me knows if he herd the details about what happened to Lia he would be way brutal then I am and disown her permanently so it’s hard to make a call on what would he want when I don’t know.
TINY UPDATE: I saw a couple comments that told me I should ask Lia, I didn’t flat out ask her like it was her call, to avoid putting unnecessary pressure on her about what I should do, but she told me “mom I think you should give it to her because I don’t want her to be mad at me..she already blames me for getting kicked out”…. She still loves and cares about maya. She doesn’t blame her for what happened to her YET. The reason why I say YET is because I haven’t sat down with her and help her fully understand, what maya did to her was wrong and I’m honestly dreading it. She doesn’t know what maya has said about her nor doesn’t know the true details why she was arrested. In her head she thinks maya was arrested because she threw a party.

The previous post by OP reveals that the 18 year old daughter threw a party in December 2023 when she was supposed to be watching her 14 year old sister and her sister got gangraped by 4 gangbangers. All four of them pleaded guilty and the court cases were resolved less than six months later
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I’m starting strongly dislike my daughter…​

CONTENT WARNING: SEXUAL ASSAULT

To start off everything I’m a widow and have 3 children but in this post I’ll be focused on my two youngest daughters Lia ( F14) & maya ( F18). ( fake names ofcourse)
For little background, Lia was raped by 4 men back in December. How this incident accrued was maya threw a party while I was working the night shift and 4 of the boys that were attendance at this party assaulted Lia. It’s been devastating to say the least, Lia has lost all of her spark and quit cheer. Plus on top of that she opted out of her freshman year by just continuing to do courses online. She doesn’t sleep in her room anymore but with me and just wears my late husband’s hoodies all day and I feel so helpless as a mother because I don’t know how I can help her.
Through out the investigation a lot of things came out regarding maya’s part in this. She did not set up her little sister, however I feel like she severely neglected her and all of this could have been avoided if she just followed my rules. I never approved a party, I left in her charge of watching Lia and before you guys say “well you’re her mother it not her job to watch your kid“ but the thing is, it was her job. I pay her really well to look after her sister while I work nights it’s been an agreement we had for years. Lia is not special needs in anyway, the only thing I asked of maya is that she makes sure her sister does her homework and gets to bed at a reasonable time.
The men that assaulted Lia, maya invited herself she knew them personally and knew they had affiliates to gangs and did not care. Instead what I found out in this investigation she tried to put Lia with one of these boys and Lia was not interested…this boy was harassing Lia all night, trying to get her to kiss him. Then Lia had enough and went to her room…and the moment maya left the house to go to McDonalds..that same boy in his friends went up to my daughter’s room and raped her. The worst part about this to me is that people that were at the party heard her yelling and did not do anything but just assumed a couple was arguing upstairs. We didn’t know what happened, until the next morning when the party was over. Having her do a rape kit was traumatizing for her and probably the worst moment as a parent for me. then couple weeks later she tested positive for a curable STD.
My baby has been so broken ever since…even though they did get those boys and all 4 pleaded guilty because they had evidence on there phone. but It’s still so extremely hard for Lia right now. Maya on the other hand has been remorseful and Lia has no animosity towards her and doesn’t blame her, still loves her sister. But I don’t know why for me I’m so angry at maya and I’ve been really trying to forgive her but I can’t as of now. I can’t even look at her without not wanting to lash out. Her prom is next weekend and I honestly couldn’t care less. She tries to have conversations with me, but it’s hard for me to show any interest in them. I don’t hate my daughter, I still love her. But I just have strong dislike for her right now. I’ve been reading self help books trying to learn how to address this properly. I feel like I can’t open up to anyone about this in life. I guess this maybe cry for help as a mother.
Edit: thank you for all the feedback, the most repetitive question I’m seeing is if maya still watches Lia? The answer is hell no. I don’t trust her anymore and it might take years to get it back. I’m on a leave of absence currently. Also Lia is not therapy as of right now, she expressed to me she’s not ready for that, I think after the sentencing she might be open to it. Maya is also in therapy but skips a lot of appointments and I’m in therapy too and it’s been helping me remain calm throughout this situation and not want to lash out at Maya. But the number 1 advice that I’m seeing in here that I’m strongly considering is sending Maya to my parents house for a while and get some space from her.
Sorry quick Second edit : for the ones asking if Maya is in a gang, to my knowledge she isn’t…the most I have ever caught her doing was smoking some pot and vaping. I also don’t want to think Maya would ever intentionally set up her sister to be brutally assaulted. So I’m leaning towards Maya genuinely was being plain neglectful that night. also I feel like it would have came up in the investigation if she intentionally set up Lia. Also the boy Maya was trying to set Lia up with was 17 at the time…he’s 18 now and the other 3 were grown men.

Oh her eldest daughter was also criminally charged in less than six months also
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I’m starting to strongly dislike my daughter… ( UPDATE)​

CONTENT WARNING: SEXUAL ASSAULT

A lot has progressed in the past couple of days and it would be only right to update you guys on what happened and get some advice from you guys regarding everything. but to answer multiple questions I received from my last post about why hasn’t maya been further punished. to put it quite simply Maya was arrested the night of Lia’s attack. She was charged with felony child endangerment & 2 misdemeanors. The judge was very nice to her and made her pay a 2,000$ fine, 60 hours of community service & 3 years probation. plus I took her car but after this update, I maybe should have given her a harsher punishment. but back to the update. TL;DR at the bottom.
On Thursday afternoon, me and maya got into a fight. The dispute happened because Lia came to me virtually upset and on the verge of tears. because 5 people messaged her that day, expressing condolences about her attack. Lia has been very clear she doesn’t want anyone that she knows to know that she was the victim of the attack. upon further investigation it turns out Maya told a group chat of 27 people that Lia was the victim. Lia vocalized to me how humiliated she feels and that she can’t ever go back to school next year. I of course then go confront Maya about it. she kept saying I was overacting and that Lia was being dramatic. I tried to reason with her to see how she hurt her sister and she did not see the issue. She stopped me off mid-lecture from me and said, “ jesus christ Mom, you need to let her deal with this shit instead of always rushing to her defense, lia is not different from other women in the world that deal with rape, at least they don’t make it their entire personality like she does. also, she’s fine I literally overheard her talk to a boy on the phone last night.” It just clicked for me at that moment that she was not actually remorseful at all and that I just witnessed her mask slip. I just responded with pack your shit up and that she will be staying with my parents until I allow her back. That’s exactly what she did.
but the next morning I got a text from Maya to meet her at her therapist appointment that was later that day. looking back I wish I had never gone because her therapist majority of the visit only saw her POV, But At the start of the appointment, it opened up with Maya apologizing and explaining her thought process of why she told her friends and it was because she was venting, plus she didn’t think of it as a big deal because its public case that was on the news and lia seems fine these days… (Lia is listed as a Jane Doe and not named nowhere but I digress. )
we then get into the nitty-gritty of it all, Maya then tells me in front of the therapist that she feels emotionally neglected by me and that I never seem to care about her trauma when it came to the situation. which is for her is having to stay in jail for a weekend and loosing one of her friends ( which is one of Lia’s literal rapist. ) I wish I can say I’m joking but I’m dead serious. we were talking about that for the first 30 minutes. her therapist was guilt-tripping me for not being more emotionally there for Maya and that I should try to see as her mom since their father is no longer with us. But Call me an awful parent but I don’t want to be emotionally there for Maya if it involves me having to help her mourn the friendship of the person that ruined her sister’s life. The therapist was on one especially since she kept referring to what happened to Lia as an accident or that Lia seems happier these days because that’s what Maya has been telling her, when Lia is quite literally high off antidepressants and still scores extremely low on the mental health evaluation…but I finally just had an outburst, (feel free to skip over the next paragraph, because there is a massive trigger warning, I get very graphic here. But I’m just reiterating what I said. )
what I said to both Maya and her therapist was, “ I think it’s kinda disgusting that the two of you are refusing to acknowledge Lia’s trauma in this and keep referring to it as an accident. You spent a weekend in jail, while your sister was in the hospital suffering from something YOUR friend did to her. Ironically enough if you ever listened to Lia, she has said that friend of yours was the most violent towards her during the attack and was the catalyst for the majority of injuries she sustained including strangling her. So for you guys to sit here and berate me for not caring that you lost your friend because of something terrible your friend did to your sister is absolutely disgusting. My biggest regret right now is helping you obtain a lawyer I should have let you rot in that cell and let you figure it out yourself. “
Maya started sobbing in the office at this point and saying it wasn’t fair that I blamed her for what happened to Lia, she told me the only thing she was trying to do was have Lia come out of her shell because she kept hovering next to her at the party. The therapist then interjects and asks Maya how did Lia respond to her when she apologized. Maya in such a defensive manner says, “apologize for what? I didn’t rape her”. Even the therapist was shocked when she said that and at that point, I heard enough and l stood up, threw my hands up, and left. I haven’t spoken to Maya since then and this was Friday afternoon.
Maya has been texting me and calling me begging to come home so she can apologize to both me and Lia. But I don’t know at this point, I never thought I would be that parent that will have to go no contact with my daughter. But I don’t know if I can stomach being around her, I can’t trust her and she’s not remorseful whatsoever about what happened. A part of me wants to try to make it work for the sake of Lia because she asked yesterday if she ruined our family. And that broke my heart. Lia loves and looks up to Maya and I don’t think she can comprehend at this time that Maya also failed her. I’m just stuck or tell me if I’m wrong for not understanding maya I’m sorry for the not-so-happy update..
TL;DR: Maya got kicked out from the house after she exposed Lia for being a victim in her group chat with friends and we then went to her therapist appointment together, where it was just a lot of gaslighting and them trying to hold me accountable for not being emotionally there for maya which involves me not feeling bad that she lost her friend that was one of Lia’s rapist or didn’t care enough she went to jail. By the end of the session, Maya vocalized she didn’t think she needed to apologize to Lia and showed zero remorse. I’m on the verge of going no contact with her.
 
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How long has this shit been going on? You can't use reddit with a VPN now?
Past 6 months or so. Some VPN endpoints work, but I assume their slowly working to block them all. They did used to have a .onion address, I wonder if they still do or if they've finally killed it off.
 
hmmm this story sounds tragic. Let's see what's up. Op 14 year old daughter tries to commit suicide after being raped by gangbangers?
This is obviously fake but imagine being 14 years old, getting gangraped by your sister's friends, having your gangrape filmed and posted online with identifying information in the video and then trying to kill yourself because you can't handle the trauma and your mom is going on reddit posting detailed multi-paragraph updates about it, including how your sister hates you because she was arrested for it and how her ex-boyfriend tried to groom you when you were 12. What an absolute narcissist, fucking parent of the year. Also, would the sister really be considered criminally responsible for her "involvement" in the gangrape? Like it was stupid as fuck leaving the kid alone at the party but is that enough to be charged for felony child endangerment? That rape could have just as easily happened while the sister was home.

Also kind of unrelated but posts like this annoy me so much. People will go on reddit and overshare(or make shit up and pretend to overshare) for no reason other than fake internet points and attention. I'm sick of scrolling through some random thread and seeing comments that are like "oh yeah when I was 10 I was molested by my whole family then I tried to kill myself and got sent to a psych ward where all the nurses beat the shit out of me" or some shit that's just barely related to the thread topic. I don't want to hear some random's tragic backstory, get a therapist or a journal or something.
 
random thread...comments that are like "oh yeah when I was 10 I was molested by my whole family then I tried to kill myself and got sent to a psych ward where all the nurses beat the shit out of me"

But anyway back to your question kind redditor, I do believe that yes they are still doing that 2 for 1 date night dessert deal on Fridays at least the downtown location. I had the strawberry cheesecake last time it was the tits.
 
This is obviously fake but imagine being 14 years old, getting gangraped by your sister's friends, having your gangrape filmed and posted online with identifying information in the video and then trying to kill yourself because you can't handle the trauma and your mom is going on reddit posting detailed multi-paragraph updates about it, including how your sister hates you because she was arrested for it and how her ex-boyfriend tried to groom you when you were 12. What an absolute narcissist, fucking parent of the year. Also, would the sister really be considered criminally responsible for her "involvement" in the gangrape? Like it was stupid as fuck leaving the kid alone at the party but is that enough to be charged for felony child endangerment? That rape could have just as easily happened while the sister was home.

Also kind of unrelated but posts like this annoy me so much. People will go on reddit and overshare(or make shit up and pretend to overshare) for no reason other than fake internet points and attention. I'm sick of scrolling through some random thread and seeing comments that are like "oh yeah when I was 10 I was molested by my whole family then I tried to kill myself and got sent to a psych ward where all the nurses beat the shit out of me" or some shit that's just barely related to the thread topic. I don't want to hear some random's tragic backstory, get a therapist or a journal or something.
Is that more or less annoying than literally everything being about Orange Man Bad?
 
I don't want the government or corporations keeping logs of people's porn use. If you want kids not to look at porn keep them off the internet.
Disagree.

Sure, parents should watch their kids.
But I also want a society that collectively protects its young from the predators of the worst kind.

I want brutal government overreach. I want a lawsuit for every minor that ever encountered porn online. I want the government to send death squads to pornographers. I want legally mandated public executions of pornographers.

Even the clean, mainstream ones like Pornhub always go right up to the line of what is still barely legally allowed (and their subsidiaries get caught dabbling in human trafficking, statutory rape, blackmail and dissemination of child pornography often enough).

If bestiality was legal, they’d have it there, but it’s not, so you get animal dildos.
If incest was legal, they’d find some siblings to exploit, but it’s not, so they do the step- thing.
If molestation, rape and necrophilia was legal, they’d have it there, but it’s not so they do the „sleeping“ and „blackmailed“ thing.
If 16 was the age of consent, they wouldnt have so many 18yos on there. If 12 was the age of consent… if 6 was the age of consent…

If you dont believe me, check out Wikipedia. Commercial animal and child pornography was produced right from the beginning of the introduction of video recording tech up until it was finally made illegal in the civilised world.

I am supposed to believe they’re fighting for my freedom of speech? Shit, ask them about support for KF then. They’re fighting for their right to poison minds and make money from it, trying to get their future consumers addicted as young as possible, with gruelling consequences for the health of a whole generation.

Pornographers ALWAYS go to the maximum of what is legal, these are people with 0 morals, akin to crack dealers. If we killed all of them, the world would be a better place.

OnlyFans whores too, if we have to, but only because it would make dear feeder happy.
 
@Drachenlord
sending producers and distributors of pornography to the camps is nice, but there's still gonna be porn on the web and no amount of gov overreach will ever be able to fully scrub it
if you kill the entire porn industry the content is still gonna remain online
if you make hosting it illegal it's going to move abroad and to torrents
at the end of the day it's still up to parents to curate and control their kids internet use, noone else is truly able to do it
 
@Drachenlord
sending producers and distributors of pornography to the camps is nice, but there's still gonna be porn on the web and no amount of gov overreach will ever be able to fully scrub it
if you kill the entire porn industry the content is still gonna remain online
if you make hosting it illegal it's going to move abroad and to torrents
at the end of the day it's still up to parents to curate and control their kids internet use, noone else is truly able to do it
While I agree that it is impossible to completely wipe porn off the internet for good, I think its possible to make it so annoying to get ahold of that its not worth it to most people. Porn isnt like hard drugs where addicts get cravings so strong that they will kill for their fix. You just need to put porn just far enough out of reach for it to be a boner killer.

Also I think pornographers should die
 
@Drachenlord
sending producers and distributors of pornography to the camps is nice, but there's still gonna be porn on the web and no amount of gov overreach will ever be able to fully scrub it
if you kill the entire porn industry the content is still gonna remain online
if you make hosting it illegal it's going to move abroad and to torrents
at the end of the day it's still up to parents to curate and control their kids internet use, noone else is truly able to do it

Would making porn possession punishable for life in prison for the possessor and his/her entire family, like how North Korea does, be a good enough disincentive to porn at all? Or would the degenerates still be desperate enough to obtain those, or make porn of their own?
 
While I agree that it is impossible to completely wipe porn off the internet for good, I think its possible to make it so annoying to get ahold of that its not worth it to most people. Porn isnt like hard drugs where addicts get cravings so strong that they will kill for their fix. You just need to put porn just far enough out of reach for it to be a boner killer.

Also I think pornographers should die
You would need to block people being able to upload images any where online. Unfortunately the cat is out of the bag now.
 
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