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No amount of historic revisionism is going to take away the memories of your dad raping you. The account says women annoyed the staff at the recording studio and Gunpla (which barely existed) wasn't picked up until the movies. Which isn't the same thing as saying damaged women are the backbone of anything. Just that they're annoying and stalk people.
It's not really historical revision. Tomino also said it. Mostly since girls get WAY into characters and tend to gobble up any and everything they can get that relates to whatever character they like. Women fans can be intense. Look at photos of screenings of, like, the Saint Seiya movies. It's all women there.
 
Women being the majority of Gundam fans is how we got fun clusterfucks like Wing, the latter half of 08th MS, The Origin, and Flay. They're also the demographic that rightfully despises Stardust Memory. Though chasing for that demographic without actually thinking about what they'd want is how you get Seed and Seed Destiny sucking so much at human drama and assuming pretty character design will paper over all flaws. Tomino himself realized how important they were, which is how we get Turn A being so good and unique and completely unlike the dispassionate meatgrinder of Victory. And to think he nearly screwed it all up by wanting Garma to last only two episodes instead of the 5+2 he gets.
 
Women being the majority of Gundam fans is how we got fun clusterfucks like Wing, the latter half of 08th MS, The Origin, and Flay.
Women being the majority of Raideen fans is how we got Chouja Raideen, one of the weirdest mecha shows out there. It's apparently a kids' MOTW show, but it's as moody and downright weird as Iczer and Zeorymer.
 
Women being the majority of Gundam fans is how we got fun clusterfucks like Wing, the latter half of 08th MS, The Origin, and Flay. They're also the demographic that rightfully despises Stardust Memory. Though chasing for that demographic without actually thinking about what they'd want is how you get Seed and Seed Destiny sucking so much at human drama and assuming pretty character design will paper over all flaws. Tomino himself realized how important they were, which is how we get Turn A being so good and unique and completely unlike the dispassionate meatgrinder of Victory. And to think he nearly screwed it all up by wanting Garma to last only two episodes instead of the 5+2 he gets.
Stardust Memory has a huge fujo following, wtf. It's the gayest Gundam series. You can't go 5 seconds looking for 0083 fanart without finding sweaty Kou/Gato buttsex (or Gato/Kelly, or Kou/Keith, or Gato/Delaz, or any number of combinations that probably fucked canonically).

The writing issues with 08th are almost certainly due to the production issues more than anything (if they wanted to fujobait they'd have given Ghinius more screen time since he's the most interesting character from a fujo perspective and cut Shiro and Aina being retarded).

08th leaning harder into fujobait as opposed to trying too hard solely to attract nerdy dudes that jerk it to cartoon 17 year olds and think any generic Zeon ace is automatically the best character would've probably made the series better. Especially since Yuri and Ghinius is the best pairing and a hell of a lot more interested that Shiro and Aina, and that's a hill I'll die on.

They could've have sci-fi KazeKi.
 
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if they wanted to fujobait they'd have given Ghinius more screen time since he's the most interesting character from a fujo perspective
They give Ghinias a bunch of screentime in the second half. And doubling down on Shiro and Aina being star-crossed lovers is extremely fujo.

Stardust Memory has a huge fujo following, wtf. It's the gayest Gundam series.
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Stardust Memory has a huge fujo following, wtf. It's the gayest Gundam series. You can't go 5 seconds looking for 0083 fanart without finding sweaty Kou/Gato buttsex (or Gato/Kelly, or Kou/Keith, or Gato/Delaz, or any number of combinations that probably fucked canonically).
It's gay in like a Top Gun sorta way though. I wouldn't say it really falls into yaoibait.
 
It's gay in like a Top Gun sorta way though. I wouldn't say it really falls into yaoibait.
Too many people like Monsha and Kelly Layzner being assholes to women to really attract the ladies. Similar to how Wufei's always the unfavorite of the Wing fandom.
 
Otaku No Video makes it a point that fujo in the gang is drawing Garma because Garma gets buttsex from Char
Otaku No Video was made in the early 90s and was set in the early 80s

you gotta have a real screw loose to take "Oooh~ Char! not in front of the men" after Char has his extended shower scene to be anything other than the gayest robot pilot since gay came to gaytown
 
Too many people like Monsha and Kelly Layzner being assholes to women to really attract the ladies. Similar to how Wufei's always the unfavorite of the Wing fandom.
Monsha is the real hero of 0083. He was robbed and should have been given a Gundam.
 
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Otaku No Video makes it a point that fujo in the gang is drawing Garma because Garma gets buttsex from Char
Otaku No Video was made in the early 90s and was set in the early 80s

you gotta have a real screw loose to take "Oooh~ Char! not in front of the men" after Char has his extended shower scene to be anything other than the gayest robot pilot since gay came to gaytown
Well, Char is a ripoff of Reinhardt von Lohengramm, the gayest aryan in space, so that checks.
 
They give Ghinias a bunch of screentime in the second half. And doubling down on Shiro and Aina being star-crossed lovers is extremely fujo.
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Not really, Ghinius has maybe 2 scenes per episode until episode 11. Definitely nowhere near as much screen time as Shiro and Aina.

Het isn't fujobait, especially when it's as shitty as Shiro and Aina being OYW Reccoas.
It's gay in like a Top Gun sorta way though. I wouldn't say it really falls into yaoibait.
I mean you could argue that its more geycomi since the dudes actually have muscles but either way that shit ain't straight. I can also attest to the number of fujos still churning out 0083 buttsex art on pixiv and whatnot.
Otaku No Video makes it a point that fujo in the gang is drawing Garma because Garma gets buttsex from Char
Otaku No Video was made in the early 90s and was set in the early 80s

you gotta have a real screw loose to take "Oooh~ Char! not in front of the men" after Char has his extended shower scene to be anything other than the gayest robot pilot since gay came to gaytown
There is no heterosexual explaination for Char and Garma. They're both bi at minimum. And to paraphrase Tomino on Turn A, why wouldn't there be gay people in space?
Well, Char is a ripoff of Reinhardt von Lohengramm, the gayest aryan in space, so that checks.
I actually think Char is bi, not gay. He seems to be into both men and women but is incapable of having healthy relationships with either.

He's the original blond space bisexual disaster.

Reinhardt I could see as just being straight up gay though, and ending up in a lavender marriage.
 
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I mean you could argue that its more geycomi since the dudes actually have muscles but either way that shit ain't straight. I can also attest to the number of fujos still churning out 0083 buttsex art on pixiv and whatnot.
That's fair. I can't say I'm interested in them. A bit too muscly for my tastes. I prefer my gay Gundam stuff to involve purple haired effeminate guys like Angelo. But, Tieria and his twin Laeticia are quite nice as well.
 
Reinhardt I could see as just being straight up gay though, and ending up in a lavender marriage.
You don't understand. I'm not the type of person to watch shows and attribute homosexuality to characters who are not explicitly said to be such. But when I watched LoGH that was the first time I outright thought "this nigga gay". The homo waves radiating off Reinhardt are so powerful that it was simply clear as day.
 
That's fair. I can't say I'm interested in them. A bit too muscly for my tastes. I prefer my gay Gundam stuff to involve purple haired effeminate guys like Angelo. But, Tieria and his twin Laeticia are quite nice as well.
I prefer the girlyboys too but the 0083 pairings are pretty fun. I think Nina would've been happier if she became fujopilled tbh, why angst over being interested in two guys when you could sit back and watch them do gay shit?

Cima is also bi because I say so. No one in 0083 is heterosexual.
You don't understand. I'm not the type of person to watch shows and attribute homosexuality to characters who are not explicitly said to be such. But when I watched LoGH that was the first time I outright thought "this nigga gay". The homo waves radiating off Reinhardt are so powerful that it was simply clear as day.
Sieg and Reinhardt are Char and Garma levels of there being no heterosexual explaination for. Plus I'm pretty sure Reinhardt is inspired by Alexander the Great who was very much not straight, so it checks out.

Though personally I prefer Reuenthal/Mittermeyer because it's even more unhealthy and fucked up (also adds another level of Reuenthal becoming exactly like his mom despite hating her).
 
Sieg and Reinhardt are Char and Garma levels of there being no heterosexual explaination for. Though personally I prefer Reuenthal/Mittermeyer because it's even more unhealthy and fucked up (also adds another level of Reuenthal becoming exactly like his mom despite hating her).
To be fair, Kircheis obviously has it for Reinhardt's sister, Reinhardt's desire for homosex is woefully one-sided. Unfortunately for him the only thing of Sieg's that gets penetrated is his lung.
 
To be fair, Kircheis obviously has it for Reinhardt's sister, Reinhardt's desire for homosex is woefully one-sided. Unfortunately for him the only thing of Sieg's that gets penetrated is his lung.
Nah I think Sieg is solidly bi. He's head over heels for both. Tho his relationship with Reinhardt is more than a little codependent.

Sieg and Reinhardt have the aura of two obnoxious 14 year olds that just discovered French kissing and have to make sure everyone knows, fukkin making moon eyes at each other on the battlefield and shit.

If they were in high school they'd stop up traffic making out in the middle of the hall in between class. They would probably have a similar number of haters as a result (forreal that shit was the worst).

Idk maybe that's also part of why I prefer Mitts/Reuenthal, Sieg and Reinhardt have too much obnoxious PDA teen couple energy.
 
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Stardust Memory has a huge fujo following, wtf. It's the gayest Gundam series. You can't go 5 seconds looking for 0083 fanart without finding sweaty Kou/Gato buttsex (or Gato/Kelly, or Kou/Keith, or Gato/Delaz, or any number of combinations that probably fucked canonically).
Please say sike, how in the fuck the worst gundam serie in my eyes happens to have a fujo following. I expected this from wing, 00 or seed but fucking Stardust fucking memory!?
 
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Please say sike, how in the fuck the worst gundam serie in my eyes happens to have a fujo following. I expected this from wing, 00 or seed but fucking Stardust fucking memory!?
Wing wishes it was half as gay as Stardust Memory. Even Gwitch isn't as gay as 0083.

0083 is like five seconds from onscreen buttsex 50% of the time
 
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