While we're on the topic of flagging Patreons, one of the things
@AltisticRight didn't mention in his OP was the PowAwful/Jesse P.S. Patreon flagging. To be clear, I've always thought of Jesse as a desperate attention whore; his involvement with Maddox (as I'll explain in a bit) was psychotic and his handling of the leaked JLH texts meant that he took all the hilariously embarrassing simp texts and turned it into astroturfed garbage that involved him trying to spam people like Metokur to cover it. Regardless, there's lore to his Patreon that for years has been obfuscated and only really championed by Andy Warski.
The lore of Jesse and Dax's feud was covered in EZ PZ's Maddox documentary. I've timestamped the part where he mentions Jesse. It mentions Jesse's various schemes to try and fuck with Dax, the most egregious of which being creating a fake Patreon of Madcucks (an impersonator of Maddox/fan of Dick who was named in the LOLsuit) that tricked a couple of people.
However,
a very good post by George Cuckzunian two years ago and Maddox's recent "
When Fans Become Stalkers" video - as well as
resurfaced clips from early TDS episodes - provide a more clear picture of the timeline and paint Dax is a much more negative light. To give a rundown of what happened:
- At some point during or after the end of TBPITU, Maddox started a venture called "Madcast Media Network" which involved several orbiters and guests from his show, most notably Rucka Rucka Ali.
- Jesse was a part of this, displaying a sycophantic level of commitment to Maddox (which feels weird given his personality now).
- Jesse called Denzel, an early guest of Dax's, a nigger.
- Dax, on episode 32 of The Dick Show, talks about it.
The entire segment reeks of concern trolling, especially since - as Maddox pointed out in his video - Dax's guests and audience frequently use the n word in both public and private.
The most contentious part of this segment is when brings in a caller known as Joel Chaco into the show; Joel Chaco/Don Chaco tagged one of Madcast Media's sponsors - Kendal & Hyde - on Twitter and mentioned his n-bomb, in a very obvious attempt to get sponsors pulled. Maddox replied by doing essentially the same thing with Patreon, claiming that Chaco was attempting to target people's livelihoods. A screencap of this is included in the EZ PZ documentary.
During the call, Dax discusses his criteria for what qualifies as a "job lynch mob" (his own proto-nomenclature for cancel culture), distinguishing between being fired for having contentious opinions vs getting a waitress fired for being "bad at her job." He claims that targeting sponsors for the content they are sponsoring does not qualify as a job lynch mob. It finally becomes clear in an infamous quote that it had nothing to do with the ethics of n bombs and being civilian journalists by informing sponsors, but rather is an instance of all's fair in love and war.
2:49 - "A job lynch mob is not responding in kind when someone FUCKS WITH YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS. Then it's ANYTHING FUCKING GOES the second someone fucks with you, you cannot respond strong enough."
He also claims that the network as a whole is responsible, rather than just Jesse himself. Chaco states that going after sponsors is just "how it works" if you have problems with a show and Dax argees and claims that it's "capitalism." It's also unintentionally hilarious hearing him claim that "if somebody comes over to your house and writes "hey asshole" on it, DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT TO THEM [...] Do the most you can do under the law. That's why the law is there", given how vocal he has been in recent weeks that Eric July is a fake ancap for filing police reports on Riley for showing up to his warehouse and tagging it.
The end result is that Maddox lost sponsors as a result of Dax's fans' targeted campaign. A screenshot of a Facebook conversation between Maddox and an unknown party that is included in EZ PZ's documentary confirms this.
It also resulted in Jesse's Patreon
getting banned edit: I don't think his account was permanently banned. Obviously given what I've just shown, Dax was all but implying it should be taken down, but I did some more research and saw a tweet chain from February where Jesse argued about it and posts emails he received from Patreon discussing his account violation.
So even if his account wasn't permanently banned as a result of Dax (at least initially), there's no denying that people attempted to report his Patreon following Episode 32.
Throughout the years, however, Dax has continually denied that he and his fans flagged Jesse's Patreon and repeats a narrative in which he was banned solely for impersonating Madcucks. He argued this point as recently as a few months ago in a
Trashcast with Ethan van Sciver, responding to a claim made on the Kino Casino by PPP. However, the first hand account by George Cuckzunian (in the post I linked to at the beginning) clarifies that
- Dax's fans (and very likely Dax himself) reported Jesse's Patreon.
- The incident was exaggerated well past what Denzel, the person who Jesse called the n-word, wanted (he didn't like it, but didn't care enough to get involved in an Internet feud).
- Dax's mods would go into Jesse's chats and shows to gather info on him.
- Dax attempted to humiliate him publicly by reading an old job application of his on a TDS episode.
Even just a few hours ago, Jesse posted this tweet where he makes the claim that Dick, directly, reported his Patreon.
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Maddox also addresses the incident in When Fans Become Stalkers Chapter 8. Right off the bat, he rebuked Dax's claim that the incident occured while on the Madcast Media Network. It didn't. It occured on a different podcast that had nothing to do with Madcast. Yet enough pressure for Dax's fans resulted in Maddox's sponsor Harry's Razors dropping him.
So that's the rundown of the Jesse P.S. flagging lore. Dax continues to deny this, of course, but even if he didn't directly flag Jesse he attempted to use a clip of him from a podcast not on the Madcast network to successfully target Maddox's sponsors, justifying it under the grounds that "everything's fair game."
