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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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Claiming to be a victim of DV is the number 1 approach to get the kids and the house in the divorce, and the amount of people who don't understand that is astonishing.
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Many individuals remain unaware of the significant implications associated with filing domestic abuse charges. Once filed, these charges are no longer under the jurisdiction of the individual who brought forth the allegations; instead, they become the responsibility of the state. Consequently, should the accuser decide to retract their statements or change their mind entirely, it has no bearing on the progression of the case. Upon the filing of domestic abuse charges, the state assumes control over the case, effectively removing the victim from the proceedings to ensure their protection. At this juncture, the obligation to refute the allegations shifts to the accused. Thus, the gravity of lodging such claims becomes paramount, given the subsequent transfer of responsibilities and potential consequences.
This aspect often makes pursuing domestic abuse charges seemingly effortless in family court.
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That's a concern, but that's more an issue with domestic violence convictions themselves. I'm of the opinion that non-violent felons should be allowed to own a firearm, and that violent felons lose that right.
I think that's reasonable, and the primary issue rests with the fact that wrongful convictions and vexatious charges exist.
The problem for me has nothing to do with the policy, it always goes back to our ability to accurately investigate and charge someone.
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I’m so fucking tired of this fake narrative. What destroyed California was the California Supreme Court going against the will of the people and striking down the Save Our State proposition, and Governor Gray Davis (who would later be recalled) not appealing it.
Several other conservative states also enacted what we would see today as Draconian gun laws. Those laws have since been mostly been repealed and replaced with Constitutional Carry because they didn’t become blue liberal shitholes.
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a little nugget of mad from the STD capital of Florida - The Villages
some boomer said:
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I think more men need to claim to be the victim of DV then.
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Disparate impact. Need affirmative action to arm more black men.
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I do think a domestic charge for basically yelling at someone is bullshit thought : this is an increasing problem in society, where definitions for thing end up shifting over time.
I also think ultimately it should be the "victims" choice to charge, rather than state charging even if they say no, seen too many cases of an otherwise happy relationship have a fight, police show up for noise and a "we have to arrest someone" mentality.
Lumping yelling, or even the occasional physical altrication which is on both sides that nobody WANTS to escalate to cops, to someone being horribly abused bothers me.
Thats why I say this, I don't like the "someones going to jail" attitude , even if both tell the cops to piss off. Infact I've even heard a case where a guy who got beat by his girl said HE was beating his girl to the cops, just so they arrested him, but later released because the woman had 0 marks. The game surrounding that is absolutely stupid.
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Trump is reportedly losing the 65+ voters to Biden. No doubt most of it is from these kind of boomers.
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gee, i wonder who suggested, and signed into law, the mulford act. probably not anybody important, definitely not republicans in california, and ronald reagan. i don't care what you think about reagan or california, but to argue that reagan was not directly allowing gun control bullshit in under his watch is blatantly false and i won't let you sit and lie to me without being called out. yeah, california continued to be a shithole for decades AFTER reagan too, but reagan also did his share of retarded shit.
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I don't have firm numbers in front of me but iirc The Villages leans very heavy red so boomerlibs are extra mad up there
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No, because then lolcows would succeed in having people arrested for laughing at them or calling them out on their shit.
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Sure, and I never said he didn’t, but there are a thousand more bullshit laws that I personally have to deal with in California that have nothing to do with carrying in public or Reagan. I can’t even buy ammo without having to bring my passport and a bunch of other documents to the gun store. If Reagan had never been governor we would have the exact same Draconian laws in California. It’s a stupid argument. It’s like blaming modern income taxes on Lincoln because he introduced the first income tax, but our current income tax is based on a great pile of much later and much more retarded legislature that Lincoln had nothing to do with.
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but i'm not talking about those laws, i'm talking about the ones reagan put in. reagan could've veto'd the bill and said it was bullshit just designed to take away guns from a specific group the republicans at the time didn't like. it is the same behavior democrats copied. reagan wasn't the first, or only, but he certainly set a precedent that even red states have to argue against today, and it's all because he and the republican congress wanted to disarm a bunch of people he had no right to disarm under the constitution.
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In practice, you need a witness to get a conviction. Even physical evidence is not enough (though likely enough for a restraining order pending charges). If the victim (and any other possible witnesses) don’t cooperate, charges are very unlikely to get filed. Even if the victim isn’t married to the suspect, no DA is ever going to jail a victim for contempt.
A lot of women know this, call the police to get their husband in jail for a night, and then ignore the DA when he comes calling for a formal statement.
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Sure, that’s fair. But I was responding to your original statement:
You’re implying a causality that liberals enacted all the gun control in California because Reagan did it. There’s no causal relationship. Clearly liberals have enacted Draconian laws all around the country without Republicans help (New York being the big example, and having even worse laws than California).
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the gun laws were something that absolutely attracted liberals to the state, though i also do concede that new york was just as shitholefied without any hard republican governance, even with someone like giuliani in when he was. i still think that liberals continued to enact gun control basically unopposed in their state after reagan did it because he had essentially silenced the right-wing pushback by having it be gun control from a right wing source to begin with; and of course the purpose of it was just because the government was getting nervous that people with guns weren't happy with them. i see a lot of people with guns not happy at the government again these days, and i don't want there to be any wiggle room for a dishonest libtard to point to someone like reagan and say LOOK EVEN BIG DADDY REPUBLICAN SAID GUNS WERE SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE CONTROLLED.
i agree with you on some, but disagree that it didn't lead to stricter gun laws under liberals later without any real ability to push back. new york was a liberal and gang-controlled shithole for decades but liberals don't need a reason to restrict guns, so it's not surprising that they struggled with 'liberal legislation, liberal crime rates'. in california, there was already precedent.
thanks for being normal and composed about it, and sorry if i came off as angry at you.
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The FBI activated a glowie in Arkansas, white man shooting people indiscriminately in a butcher shop parking lot. The butcher shop is called The Mad Butcher so whichever college recruit agent thought this up thinks he'll be writing in Hollywood soon:
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I think you misunderstand me : I was actually complaining about cases where cops are called, and despite BOTH parties saying its fine, the cop MUST arrest. I hate when that happens
So more that, there must be an actual case for DV, AND, the person must say they want it. Not that anyone can be arrested just because someone says so
This doesn't stop a person getting arrested, and having a ton of problems because a shouting match happened.
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I don't think it's a glow op. He has a shotgun, not a scary Assault Rifle 15.
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