Return of the Draft Megathread - There's a shitstorm a brewin'.

Will anything come of it?

  • Yes.

  • No.

  • Probably.

  • Maybe.

  • Well yea why did you even make this poll


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Best case for her is to go into hiding and hope no one knows where she lives.
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I wish the US had like some law that those that have family backgrounds dating back in the 1800s in the US be the ones allowed to be given political positions than just being a natural born citizen.
 
Best case for her is to go into hiding and hope no one knows where she lives.
I really hope she doesn't and some deranged lunatic does a patriotic duty and puts a cleaver in her skull for this when they find out they have to die.

On a side note, I'm shocked more Kiwis aren't going the mental route. The one thing the army surprisingly doesn't like are autistic racists who are hellbent on starting a race war and are a liability to gun down civvies for no reason. Which really is 90% of this website's user base. I mean, maybe the problem is us. Maybe we don't hate ruskies or chinks hard enough.
 
the military already rejects recruits who are found to have extremist views. they call you up, you tell them how much you hate niggers and jews and trannies, they are no longer interested in recruiting you.
This is the part people forget about. Unless the United States is invaded directly and it's all hands on deck, the bar for being excluded as an extremist is at an all time low.

For crying out, the ADL declares a fucking bowl haircut to be a hate symbol. All Zoomers need to do really is just draw a big swastika with a Sharpie marker on a white shirt and do a zieg heil in a video to send to recrooters, and they're automatically excluded. Sure, you'd get put on an FBI watch list, but which of us AREN'T on a watch list at this point?

If we end up in just some clone of Vietnam where the U.S. gov't just throws people into a meatgrinder again, they're not gonna want to conscript someone with 4K video evidence of them reciting the Total Nigger Death copypasta, if it means serving under the leadership of blacks, browns, and trannies.

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I really hope she doesn't and some deranged lunatic does a patriotic duty and puts a cleaver in her skull for this when they find out they have to die.

On a side note, I'm shocked more Kiwis aren't going the mental route. The one thing the army surprisingly doesn't like are autistic racists who are hellbent on starting a race war and are a liability to gun down civvies for no reason. Which really is 90% of this website's user base. I mean, maybe the problem is us. Maybe we don't hate ruskies or chinks hard enough.
I’m not even opposed to the draft in principle. This isn’t pol. Also a lot of people here are likely too old to be drafted and have a ‘get fucked Zoomers’ mindset.
 
I mean if the draft is go fight some poor sandniggers at least your chance of survival is better than being a land war with.

ruskies
turks
chinks
Not just how far they are getting in military technology and developments but their populations I would say are more nationalistic than your average western country.

That is assuming Israel's goals is just Palestine only. Sending a bunch of pampered zoomers in a hot conflict with supposedly 700k troops that have rotated their forces and experienced conflict with NATO intel backing and weapons is just fucking brutal when those that have died before you had atleast some patriotism or nationalism as their reason to fight. Palestine does not have nukes so maybe the draft is more intended for the middle east(fingers crossed US leadership is still sane).
 
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People with dual citizenship are excluded, so funnily enough Jews don't have to die for Israel.
Hypothetically, what would stop some random third-world country offering Americans citizenship for a few thousand dollars each? It's a win-win situation - Americans get to dodge the draft, and that third-world country makes a fortune.
 
Hypothetically, what would stop some random third-world country offering Americans citizenship for a few thousand dollars each? It's a win-win situation - Americans get to dodge the draft, and that third-world country makes a fortune.
even thirdoid states are somewhat reluctant with giving away citizenship willy-nilly because this attracts attention from money launderers, criminals, fugitives from justice, international terrorists, etc.
 
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I doubt there will be a proper war with Russia or China directly purely because MAD still exists (if war still happens then God help us), however another forever war in bumblefuckistan is still in the realm of possibility, which at that point it would likely turn into a Vietnam type of slog trying to keep control over the territory of a barely functional puppet government.

Something vital to note is that the Ukraine war has been the first conventional war where both sides are using modern technology since Korea, where modern Western militaries were used to having overwhelming material and technological advantage to stomp that 14 year old with an AK or that tank that has been outdated for generations, where a small specialized force worked fine instead of the massive armies needed in the world wars of past and the Ukrainian war of present. Part of me is wondering if this is sabre rattling to Russia and China or if they anticipate recruitment levels dropping so low that they would need a draft in order to decapitate the aforementioned government of bumblefuckistan.
 
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even thirdoid states are somewhat reluctant with giving away citizenship willy-nilly because this attracts attention from money launderers, criminals, fugitives from justice, international terrorists, etc.
Plenty of countries do it as long as you pay the government directly or indirectly


Paraguay is 70k or 500 usd confirmed income and is cheap , most of its people go to work and live in other countries so they usually sell off cheaply real estate.


Golden visa search there bunch of European countries that offer it starting price is 250 k euros .


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I said this in the other thread, but anyone biting on this and thinking it's in preparation for a future war with the Russians or the Chinese isn't looking into this right. The US Military has been unable to meet its recruitment goals across the board. Someone at the Pentagon did the math and realized that we'd need to do one of two things: Downsize the military and cut down on the global outposts and slim down to a more realistic size, or institute the draft to make up for the manpower shortfall. Considering the drum-banging in the media for the past few weeks, I'd imagine that they're getting ready to pull out the latter option.

In some ways, this is even more grim than if they were planning an all-out war. This is another symptom and sign of the degradation and decline of our society and Civilization. If young men are unable or unwilling to stand up and serve their country, then they have lost faith in it.
 
Something vital to note is that the Ukraine war has been the first conventional war where both sides are using modern technology since Korea,
Iran-Iraq war says hi!
Downsize the military and cut down on the global outposts and slim down to a more realistic size, or institute the draft to make up for the manpower shortfall. Considering the drum-banging in the media for the past few weeks, I'd imagine that they're getting ready to pull out the latter option.
They should have done this decades ago. Having 600-900 bases all over the world is a huge expense that the US has never been able to afford. Its also lead to comical things like decimating the bomber fleet to maintain airlift.
 
If you consolidate the poll answers between “no” and all other answers, it seems like a 50/50 split. And that’s kind of a troubling straw poll.

I’m not saying kiwi farms is a meeting place for great minds, but it is still light years better than all social media. And this group is almost perfectly split on what the sudden draft of the largest military engine on the planet means.
 
I said this in the other thread, but anyone biting on this and thinking it's in preparation for a future war with the Russians or the Chinese isn't looking into this right. The US Military has been unable to meet its recruitment goals across the board. Someone at the Pentagon did the math and realized that we'd need to do one of two things: Downsize the military and cut down on the global outposts and slim down to a more realistic size, or institute the draft to make up for the manpower shortfall. Considering the drum-banging in the media for the past few weeks, I'd imagine that they're getting ready to pull out the latter option.

In some ways, this is even more grim than if they were planning an all-out war. This is another symptom and sign of the degradation and decline of our society and Civilization. If young men are unable or unwilling to stand up and serve their country, then they have lost faith in it.
American valor is all but gone. Soon front line soldiers will become just another battalions of foreign mercenaries who will turn coat at any moment.


It....does rhyme...with the infamous Empire from the past ...I wonder....what....MMMMMMMM
 
The chances of this ever going through are really low. At least right now without reason to support it.

I actually support the female draft.. as long as the unquestionable official dogma is that there is no difference between the sexes.. and weaponization of the legal/political/social system based on it.. They should be forced to register and join just like men. OC they will never be able, let alone forced to fight on the front lines. I wouldn't support that regardless, as it means more work and danger for everyone else. But it would be fun to watch modern feminists and progressives suddenly doing a 180 on ignoring biological fact. Part of my fears though, after the troon about face and the ease at which they now seem able to double-think/speak on issues like this over only the last decade. (we went from the "science" refuting any question of mental or physical differences between males and females, to the denial of gender roles or "sexed brains" treated as just short of a crime against humanity.)

Hell, even in an ideal world they should have to for non combat roles. As well as stuff on the home front. As well as logistics, production, medical etc etc. Not combat roles or anything near to it.


Right before the election. Maybe a Chinaman will assassinate Biden, allowing the Democrats to have Harris as President, she shuts down the election, they'll accuse the Chinaman of being a Chinese spy sent to assassinate the President and BAM. Draft. It'll be a unanimous vote in the house from both Democrats and Conservatives across the aisle.

Turning Biden into an American hero with his few seconds early death. lol

China aren't just 'not friends', they are already enemies and have been.. It's time the west stops pretending like they aren't. Hell, they don't even want to be seen as not enemies.They don't hide this! They spent the first 2-3 years of covid trying to use their own virus disaster to further, to advertise their completely illiberal totalitarian dictatorial system to the 2nd and 3rd world for fuck sake.
 
Saint Tarrant shirt, paint hakenkreuz on forehead, and if asking the officer to how best fedpost doesn't work, poo and pee, no draft for me. Get a diagnosis for tism too.

If things aren't ukraine level, it will work.
If they are and 50 year old downies are getting drafted, ditch all electronics and hide somewhere the best you can.

Don't die for Shlomo he is no Adolf or Gen'ral Lee, it isn't worth becoming the target for red artillery.
 
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