Poppy Diabolique / Jessica Routhier / Joshua Routhier / Bryce Routhier / Zena & Poppy: Wholesome Degenerates - Middle aged crazy tranny, his polycule of enablers and his BPD filled breakups. Abusive Parent. Fakes having multiple personalities. Serial Sex Pest. Grooms minors and SA victims with furry porn. Fired from their job for being terminally online

[ÁchtunaRoll]

Poppy paying for Twisty's medical procedures.

https://www.youtube.com/live/MHaz6EF4GAI

The online left fails ppl w/ personality disorders, red-pilling chat on voting, maybe gaming later​

Saige Alexis - Livestreams, Politics, & News
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[Solid Hyrax]

So, Sideshow Liana has some more words about us.

Archive in case she deletes it.

 

[Poonocchio]

I'm more interested in the CP claims, because the only source claiming that about KF has retracted it:

This again? Disgusting, unfounded claims parroted by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Wonder if Liana is aware of how fast Null and KF raised 150k to sue the last person to carelessly throw that accusation around before they had to publicly retract it? Unlike these people, things only get said here based on fact, that's why they hate us. Where's the evidence of this CP?? (Pssssst it was 24 hours)

 

[cornholierthanthou]

Poppy paying for Twisty's medical procedures.

Wow their latest grift worked fast.

 

[Shaneequa]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/poppy-...py-wholesome-degenerates.185128/post-18600651

As some of the thread regulars know, Liana K was recently banned from reading her own thread because she was getting off on the attention and I did not consent to being her masturbatory aid.

For archival purposes here are all the updates since along with my original commentary. If anyone wants to repost their commentary from the private thread for the public record, feel free to do so.

For the uninitiated
Stalker-Chan: Liana's nickname for Emily Schooley, who she believes is running the TransTruthTeller account.
Emily Schooley: Old friend or acquaintance of Liana, they left on bad terms and now Liana blames everything in her life on her.
TransTruthTeller: @LianaDoesntKare on twitter, posts her tumblr at people interacting with Liana on twitter. Claims to be a black trans woman.
Hugo (Derrick): Second Life streamer who bullies furries
Shaneequa: That's me!
Asher Wolfstein: Liana dingleberry, gay furry, publicly admitted to COCSA (Child-on-Child Sexual Abuse) completely unprompted on his blog.

Saturday at 11:39 AM



Liana begging on her hands and knees for me to acknowledge her again.

Saturday at 1:26 PM


This is something I see with people with an unwarranted sense of self-importance. It was never about trying to get Liana to do anything. Its like the concept that people would make fun of her and it not be for her benefit is completely alien.



"Ugh, why r u guys bringing up this unspecified incident that was over 30 years ago and didn't even involve you. Literally only bullies would care about that unspecified incident or the sorts of people that would be involved in such an incident."

If it was really no big deal like she says, why won't she just say it? Why tiptoe around it like it's something radioactive?

Sunday at 9:59 AM


Like, obviously the Kiwi Farms in general doesn't care, but she's referring to a post I made



Obviously, that screen is missing the entire second half of my post where the punchline to my joke is that she doesn't practice what she preaches, but either

A) she doesn't know that because she genuinely doesn't read KF and is only responding to this screen that someone sent her (probably a P&Z person) or
B) She's pretending not to know the second half of that post and is expecting me to correct her on it by referencing it multiple times. (Liana likes to do that "you've activated my trap card!"-ass shit. She treated me telling her I'm not going to engage with her as a huge gotcha for some reason)


Sunday at 10:18 AM
When did this happen? I wonder if she's just making shit up now to get a reaction.

Sunday at 11:17 AM

More lore that I don't know the backstory of. lmk if anyone knows what she's referring to.

Sunday at 2:07 PM

I think Asher found the footer of the website. If anyone is confused this is at the bottom of every page on KF



At his core, Asher is just a fedora tipper who thinks about Christianity more than 99% of Christians (mostly seething)

Sunday at 4:17 PM


I finally archived Asher's new blog post, I read it expecting something interesting but it's what you'd expect from a pesudointellectual who has a need to let people know just what his specific flavor of pseudointellectualism is.

Archive

The only thing of note in it is the literal last line that made me do a spit take



*smirk*

Also, apparently, Liana's talking about something that happened during GG (Probably referring to the SWATTING discussion on the public thread. Like damn, bitch how am I supposed to know ur drama from a decade ago off-hand




Tuesday at 8:21 PM

"sexually violent perpetrator" are the literal words you used in your blog, bro. And unfortunately the sentence wasn't "I am not a sexually violent perpetrator of COCSA."

Liana's response



Tuesday at 8:30 PM


idk about you but my definition of a child molester is "person who molested a child." Which your story satisfies, regardless of what age you were.

Why are you bitching and crying that strangers are not giving you the benefit of the doubt when you didn't post that for just your friends and people you trust privately, you posted it PUBLICLY. To STRANGERS. To THE PUBLIC. And you haven't earned the benefit of the doubt from people you don't know.

And you said it in a really, really gross way.

Tuesday at 9:50 PM




Yesterday at 1:56 PM








Yesterday at 7:06 PM

Asher wants people to treat him like the crazy weirdo he is or something, idk who this post is for.


Yesterday at 8:36 PM



lolsuit incoming apparently

Yesterday at 10:43 PM


---

fin.

Figured it was time for a dump since it seems the floodgates have opened.

 

[cornholierthanthou]

For archival purposes here are all the updates since along with my original commentary. If anyone wants to repost their commentary from the private thread for the public record, feel free to do so.

For the uninitiated
Stalker-Chan: Liana's nickname for Emily Schooley, who she believes is running the TransTruthTeller account.
Emily Schooley: Old friend or acquaintance of Liana, they left on bad terms and now Liana blames everything in her life on her.
TransTruthTeller: @LianaDoesntKare on twitter, posts her tumblr at people interacting with Liana on twitter. Claims to be a black trans woman.

I'll pick up some of the slack here.

The Emily Schooley stuff is old. This is evidence of how long a Lianaraffe can hold a grudge apparently.

13 years ago Emily dated a male friend of Liana’s, who wound up being abusive. She dumped him, and was public about the abuse suffered. This caused so much harassment from Liana and her husband that Emily had to file two libel lawsuits against Liana, and Liana is apparently legally barred from saying her name. It sounds like Emily managed to get a C&D against Liana so that says a lot about how that situation went..

What's particularly sus is that while Liana and Emily both created Tumblrs to have an online slap-fight, Liana would only share partial doctored screencaps like this:

Whereas Emily shared this, a full conversation with her boyfriend's sister who basically says "I know if there was violence between you two, my brother was the one who started it."

There is also a mysterious third party who seems to have had a similar experience with Liana:

As for Trans Truth Teller, they too have a Tumblr where they are giving Saige strong contender vibes for #1 Russian novelist.

To save you the psychic damage, they basically claim that they were friends with Liana IRL before they trooned out, got used for free labour like apparently Liana and her husband have a reputation of doing, and that Liana eventually turned on them like she does at least once a week to someone.

My money's on Liana having multiple people who she's backstabbed in one way or another, personally.

And speaking of, because I know Lianaraffes want their dear little Stalker chans taken care of, I think I'm gonna toss Emily a few bucks in Liana's name.

 

[Shaneequa]

Asher defends Liana's claim by saying that she actually meant something she didn't say.

 

[Poonocchio]

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Asher defends Liana's claim by saying that she actually meant something she didn't say.

"I might be a child molester but at least I love the joos"
Who is Krungo btw? Just some randomer?

 

[Shaneequa]

Who is Krungo btw?

Ye, a randy

 

[Shaneequa]

Asher does not identify with the pseudointellectual title I've given him. I know that's just he writes and talks, I'm making fun of him for it anyway.



Asher says that we are missing crucial context to his COCSA story and we're not allowed to bully him because only disturbed individuals would be perpetrators of COCSA and that means we bully the disturbed.

Dunno what the domestic violence thing is about though. I think it has something to do with Emily



tbh it was kind of nice seeing Asher have a normal human conversation. Maybe all he needs was a few more cattle prods to the noggin. You're welcome, btw.

 

['Ole Dente]

Gamergate was like some kind of Lovecraftian nexus point in time. It had a pull, it dragged every insane asshole on the internet kicking and screaming into it's orbit and it kept them focused and contained.....but once GamerGate died out, they broke from the maintained gravity and spiraled chaotically out of orbit, smashing into every neighboring body along the way. On either side of that debate, every single figure involved became a fucking nightmare human hellbent on a path of self-destruction.

This is a curse, Liana. You are under some kind of universal curse of tomfuckery and if you don't leave the internet, trust me, it's gunna end up bad for you one way or another. At that point you might as well just put the medallion on.

 

[Shaneequa]

Continuing the conversation with Krungo about Liana's statement about the KF.

Asher is kind of right that KF is detested by everyone, but not for the reason he thinks.
There is no favored political side in KF, from the far-left to the far-right ANYONE can be talked about. There's even threads talking about and making fun of other threads and the people in them.
KF won't even shut down discussion critical of Kiwi Farms itself. Wanna talk shit about Null? There's like 3 threads about him with HUNDREDS of people talking in them.
"Then why are there so many threads targeting trans people, then?" I hear Asher saying.
Because KF is one of the only places left where you can talk candidly about them and not have it be moderated or censored by whichever billion-dollar corporation currently owns the vast majority of the Internet.



In a shocking turn of events, Asher admits he might have been wrong about something (unprecedented).

No one claimed KF to be righteous and moral. It's a gossip forum. They take umbrage with the specific statement "Kiwi Farms has hosted CP."

Cause I'm feeling like being nice today I'll throw you a bone;

Remember that shit you posted at Sophie Labelle (Assigned Male) about her tracing pictures of real children for her cub porn? That information originated from the farms.

Aw hell here's another;

You don't like people calling you "pedophile", "child molester," "Perpetrator of COCSA," that's fair, no one would. But people have read your words, internalized them, and have decided of their own volition that that is what you are. There are people whose minds you will never be able to change about that and they will treat you accordingly FOREVER.

While discussion on Liana was being blocked from public view, people here took the time to look up the statistics on COCSA. Almost 0% of COCSA perpetrators ever offended again. So no, Asher. I do not believe you are a pedophile, but I am only 1 person.

The way you presented that information in your blog post was also really, really gross. It was almost like a brag, which I don't think won you any friends. Maybe if you talked less like a pseudointellectual you could have painted yourself in a better light, but that's neither here nor there. To be honest I don't think there IS a good way to say what you did.

I hope to GOD that you wrote that blog post out of your own initiative and were not led there by someone pretending to be your friend. I can imagine some untrained wannabe therapist being like "Confess to something you can never, ever take back, Asher. That's the only way to move forward without shame!"



Interesting, you should post what happened on the Kiwi Farms!



Liana asserts that because Kiwi Farms has lied about her (dubious claim, KF probably just guessed something incorrectly), she's allowed to lie about the Kiwi Farms. Never mind that that is an insane thing to say out loud, it also shows that she KNOWS what she said isn't true.



Asher says that not pointing to the original source constitutes the a claim being a "straight up lie". However, in the original post talking about his blog, I included both an archive and a screenshot of the specific section I wanted to talk about. People on twitter repeating it do so by linking you to my post. Which, again, is sourced.



The only thing Liana has ever complained about KF lying about is her being fat, btw.



Liana Kerzner reiterating how she's allowed to break the law because KF called her fat.

 

[Poonocchio]

The only thing Liana has ever complained about KF lying about is her being fat, btw.



Liana Kerzner reiterating how she's allowed to break the law because KF called her fat.

At least she's admitting she's spreading knowingly false and damaging information against Null's company, out of spite of all things. Makes things a lot easier for his legal team. Not only fat, but retarded. Enjoy prison, stalker chan child.

 

[Big Beefus]

I like how she's not calling anyone out by name anymore. Then she'd have to admit who's just archiving and documenting the dumb shit she says (everyone else) and who's telling blatant lies for their own entertainment (me). Speaking of which, here's some more:

Liana K: abuser of animals (and infants)


While we're slinging bullshit, I also call into question her canadian heritage, If South Park taught me anything, it's that she'd look like this:

 

[ÁchtunaRoll]

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Saige on personality disorders

Saige on the upcoming election

Saige has a migraine and is off her ADHD meds.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Saige on personality disorders

So

• Takes a whole minute to couch his words & point as to not get devoured by people on the left.
• "People overstate the harm done by personality disorders and this is especially present in the online left."
• Cites the harassment campagin against him and Pop and Zena as an example on how said behavior is pointed out and demonized
• Chatter and Sagie both think that personality disorder is very similar to being visibly queer in online spaces
• "People who don't suffer from a personality disorder will be given all the excuses - they're having a bad day"
• "This is part of you you can't change" to refer to the bad behaviors.
• "This is particularly in the space of terminally online mental illness spaces" lmao. He says there's a lot of ableism talk but never to personality disorders. "Those are kind of the 'evil' mentally ill people." Thinks characters in media confirmed with personality disorders
• "acting entirely normal in a situation we were in and called us abusive when in the exact same situation they would act the same" Everyone thinks like Saige and Poptard

The problem is Borderline personality disorder is thought of him and his partners as an unchanging, unmoving mass at the center of them that they cannot change. As if there's no way to stop certain behaviors from happening, no safeguards to be able to implement. This sound dangerous to the person with the personality disorder and others who could both be hurt by this lack of self control or the behavior. "This is just what they do and they cannot stop it" seems fine but the same excuse can be applied to male bull elephants when their hormones flare and they rip through a town. Just because it is natural behavior doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior. The online space he cites isn't responsible for letting him and Joshy act however they want JUST BECAUSE their personality disorder gives them a free card to do so. Maybe them calling you abusive is being told to knock it off so you stop hurting people.

Maybe if you have a personality disorder and sadly cannot control parts of it, it might best to remove yourself from terminally online spaces where personality disorders are demonized? It just might work.

He points to media being the main thing with the personality disorder demonization which is hilarious since I can't name any confirmed borderline personality disorders off the top of my head in media. He forgets that undiagnosed cluster B personality disorders are frequently abusive or cause trouble to their family memebers, and many terminally online mentally ill people can point to a cluster B in their life that made it hell for a good moment (like an ex-friend) or their whole lives (like a parent or sibling). This is the most frequent encounter and sometimes why they have kneejerk behaviors to the patterns - they are intimately familar with them.

TL;DR: "Why do people demonize me for behavior I can't control and don't take any steps to control even though it hurts myself and others?" Get off the internet and terminally online spaces if it is too fucking much for you. But he won't because they're the only space he can make excuses for himself in and bully others into submission.

 

[Karellen]

Maybe if you have a personality disorder and sadly cannot control parts of it, it might best to remove yourself from terminally online spaces where personality disorders are demonized? It just might work.

Saige has no room to call others terminally online when all of their relationships and content revolve around Discord and Twitter.

Also, and it’s honestly exhausting saying this because I’ve said it a million times in this thread and so has everyone else tangentially involved in this, but the reason people don’t like the individuals in the Poppycule isn’t because of their BPD; it’s because they don’t manage their BPD, and they use it as an excuse for their bad behavior.

These three have done more to perpetuate the stereotypes of BPD nightmare girlfriends than anyone else on the internet could ever hope to do, and yet they still refuse to accept responsibility and continue to blame everyone else but themselves.

 

[Big Beefus]

Saige has no room to call others terminally online when all of their relationships and content revolve around Discord and Twitter.

Also, and it’s honestly exhausting saying this because I’ve said it a million times in this thread and so has everyone else tangentially involved in this, but the reason people don’t like the individuals in the Poppycule isn’t because of their BPD; it’s because they don’t manage their BPD, and they use it as an excuse for their bad behavior.

These three have done more to perpetuate the stereotypes of BPD nightmare girlfriends than anyone else on the internet could ever hope to do, and yet they still refuse to accept responsibility and continue to blame everyone else but themselves.

Was gonna say this on @AMHOLIO 's post but it all really comes back to that. There are people that have BPD+ any other cocktail of disorders that can still manage their behavior and not do shit like P &Z et al.

We could tell them to manage their shit until we're blue in the face, but they all consider themselves authorities on their shit so they'll dismiss any advice coming from someone functional. The most analogous situation for them I can think of is if an active heroin addict did streams on how to deal with heroin addiction, which now that I think about it would play the same way: it would just be rhetoric that boils down to obligating "normies" (which means anyone that doesn't have their exact problem that makes them so special) with bearing all the workload of being around the special afflicted person (let me put a tone indicator here that i'm using those colors facetiously). Nevermind the fact that most people have their own unique problems, mental or not.

I guess that's what KF threads are for though: if a person's never going to do the self work that they're due and be online about the whole thing, might as well point and laugh.

 

[Shaneequa]

Liana K admits once again that she knows that her statement "Kiwi Farms hosts CP" is false.

I'm not sure but I think that "the girl in the revenge porn was 19" refers to Basic Becky, another cow in the Beauty Parlor who Null did a person stream on a long time ago.

Genuinely don't think it counts as revenge porn if the KF happens to find the nudes she posted publicly and as you said, was 19 at the time.

 

[cornholierthanthou]

We could tell them to manage their shit until we're blue in the face, but they all consider themselves authorities on their shit so they'll dismiss any advice coming from someone functional.

Probably why the only "therapist" they listen to is college dropout Liana, who is certifiably insane but not a licensed practicioner.