Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[deermeat]

It kinda dawned on me. There is NO middle ground with trannies.
You know how women get insane backlash for lying about rape? Some lied in the past and now everyone just assumes anyone who accuses anyone of rape has a "good chance" of lying, even though its extremely rare.

Trannies actively lie about SA more than most people on the planet, I can't think of another group of people that has a high percentage (given the population) of lying about SA. Which is ironic because troons also have the highest percentage of committing SA.

They complain women don't wanna get with them, then they try to accuse the women that get with them of rape or other abuse.
They also got that problem men have where they blame women for the actions of other men. Like, if a man is transphobic to them irl they'll start getting mad at women and blaming them for it. Men do this a lot where they complain about how "men dont get emotional with other men" or "other men are too aggressive" but then blame women for it being that way. Thats just two examples too, there's plenty.

Also I gotta love how feminine pooners are, even the ones who go the extra mile in passing. Reminds me how inwardly feminine butches are. Yes, they may outwardly appear masculine, but almost all the butches I know were somehow more feminine than me. Goes to show theres more to masculinity/femininity than physical appearance. I feel like when you try to force certain mannerisms, it makes you appear more of the thing you are trying to pretend you are not.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Kinda unrelated but I've always wondered how many men secretly crossdress as a fetish.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Kinda unrelated but I've always wondered how many men secretly crossdress as a fetish.

I have a vague memory of hearing about 3 per cent of adult men do so.

I reckon that could have been the case for the entire 20th century. Of course, now it doesn't have to be a secret. Now they don't have to steal their wife's underwear to wear while jerking off. Now they can be praised for being proud transwomen.

 

[Neko GF]

Troons (along with drag queens and fags) who dress like this completely annihilate the idea that they just want to be left alone. They can't help but wear hideous technicoloured outfits, it's almost like a sub-conscious trait. Mimicking brightly coloured animals and plants, to try and warn people that they're toxic and hazardous to be around.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

Men can be women if we all just believe hard enough.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

Actually: how does your country treat women compared to men? Incels have been gravitating to "I can be a woman" because it's more socially acceptable for a woman to be a programmer, an engineer, and other autistic pursuits along with being able to ecconomically get things in their own name. There's less troons in more economy inequality countries because transbians want to have the economic freedom to buy and spend as much as they want on themselves, as well as still engage in their autistic loves like programming. They're selfish manchildren at heart.

It's not too uncommon to see actual female programmers here - although there's less persuasion of programming as truly a deep, nerdy hobby here. Most programmer men and women alike do them as a job, it's a way to make a living. I think the large downside of it is that we don't see much of off the wall, deep and transgressive ideas here that much. The development of art, philosophy, and invention is very stunted.

It's not even socially unacceptable or weird to be a male programmer even. Social rules are different and I think the social hierarchy are more traditional. Wealth, social class, seniority. Of course people who are social failures are not going to deal well in society but it isn't something people inherently associate with programming and in some way feel less rigid about the failures being inborn. If that's a difference - but people are also a lot less likely to play along with low-effort straight men saying they are women.

And I would say autism as a concept actually kind of break down in some less developed non-western countries just like how gender identity. Western psychiatry is a bit of a cargo cult in the third world where we adopted it because it is 'advanced' but due to cultural differences we ended up interpreting them so differently. Autism here for most is an image of lower functioning kids and simpletons. At the same time, badly behaving kids (but otherwise not deeply impaired) of rich parents can be diagnosed with autism via bribe to get them locked up. Many doctors also believe in that autism could be caused by neglect and could be cured or grown out of.

As for colloquial Kiwi style use? Only with terminally online people.

But I think there's just less individualism in general for a lot of people - and perhaps due to less development in art, cultural avenues and individualism, maybe some concepts hasn't yet taken hold or not viable, like how the concept of money wouldn't exist in isolated tribes. I'd say religious and superstitious crazy people and woos are a lot more common here though.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I don't feel like checking 107 pages but I just remembered some shit again about troon content on social media while half awake, and instead of making a thread about it in deepthoughts I'm putting it in here for now. It's gonna be very stupid and very rambly so bear with me lmao

So, you guys ever seen those weird dobson-esque troon comics where they "own" transphobes, yeah? There's like a subgenre of those where they go and say the transphobe is actually just acloseted trans person (egg hatching shit) but like the way they make them "trans"is they have them like turn into a blatantly genetic woman , like not a personal crisis with no physical changes like it'd be if it was actual trans no no they fucking turn them into like an anime girl or some shit magically and then the person they're "owning" by this is completely ok and their worldview is completely different and heckin wholesome trans rights or whatever the fuck. haven't seen as many of those since corona happened but they still sometimes show up. Overall it's like a shoddy bootleg of Ivankov's power from one piece but his rocky horror picture show tim curry ass could do a lot more than just make people anime girls.

Anyways, whenever I look at those when they show up and assault my eyes I always think like "Ok if you can magically turn random people into genetic female why are you still a fucking tranny?" Is this like crazy diamond from Jojo or the Midas touch where you can't use your power on yourself?Are you just so full of yourself that you NEED to be trans on hormone meds and not "trans" as in literally altering your body to suit your needs with your weird magic just to justify your "oppression status" or whatever? Yes I know the true answer is "they're retarded and didn't think about it" but still! YOU HAVE AN UNEXPLAINED ABILITY TO TURN PEOPLE INTO ANIME GIRLS! WHY ARE KEEPING THE GENES YOU HATE YOU DUMBASS TRANNY?! I'm also pretty sure people wouldn't be like suddenly gender euphoric over being non consensually genespliced into what you wanna be. Surprised I've never seen a parody variant where the person that gets altered just goes into a murder rage and beats the shit out of the person that did it instead of the "oh no i was trans the whole time I never knew!" shit.

EDIT: Either the site glitched or I was just that tired that I typed or copy/pasted shit accidentally last night, fixed the repeating parts (I think. Still tired even a day after)

 

[TruffleSpark]

Stupidpol tries to make sense of trans madness:


I love how this sub has a tag for "definitional collapse", such a big part of trans ideology is built around the idea that words don't mean anything.

First the obvious question, how is transgender any different to transrace:




trans language is confusing on purpose, they need you to not understand because to understand it is to realise it is retarded:



It's actually wild how much damage tumblr did to discourse, I'm pretty sure "gays have rights because a transwoman of color threw the first brick at Stonewall" was a tumblr shitpost and now serious people say that as though it is an actual fact:


Of all the contradictions in trans ideology this is probably the biggest one:



commentary on the "it's not happening" -> "it's good that it's happening" pipeline

the video in quesion link
(it's Vaush being a retard)

bisexual man doesn't want to be part of LGBT

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Some of these lefty spaces actually have really good takes, presumably because these are people who have spent too much damn time around trannies and are just sick of them.

 

[AI generated waifu]

bisexual man doesn't want to be part of LGBT

link | archive

Tbh, I feel kinda bad intersex people / people with DSDs are lumped in with this other half of the acronym. They're never really actually advocated for and are mostly just a rhetorical tool for validating gender identity, instead of actually helping people with a physical condition understand themselves. Asexuality, too, could potentially be a real condition to be researched and understood if not for the way it is framed as an inherent sexual orientation to be validated and never questioned.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Some of these lefty spaces actually have really good takes, presumably because these are people who have spent too much damn time around trannies and are just sick of them.

Troons inevitably drive their "allies" in one of two directions: utter rejection of the cult, or utterly insane devotion to it. There can be no in between, because they allow no in between. You either mindlessly worship their every act, or you are expelled; a binary state that becomes a little ironic when you consider their constant demand to reject the "gender binary".

 

[AWizard]

If you were going to spoil your ballot paper, why not check this list to see whether there's a [Communist Party] candidate in your constituency:

Richard Shillcock of @CPBritain
has sent us this statement:

We stand in support of recognising the nature of biological sex, defending sex-based rights and signle-sex services and sports, changing the Equality Act such that 'sex' means 'biological sex', and for calm, comprehensive discussion of these issues. We oppose gender self-identification and the new gender ideology. We oppose all forms of conversion therapy applied to lesbian and gay people and we oppose including trans identities in such a ban. We recognise the Cass Report as authoritative and we oppose 'gender-affirming care' and 'social transitioning' in nurseries and schools.

Any (womanly) opinions? I know she's a blarite so I don't know if she's suggesting it in jest, and/or she's become a single-issue voter.

(Posted this in the feminism thread, might make more sense here and might it delete in the other thread).

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

bisexual man doesn't want to be part of LGBT

So simply stop dating men.

I have basically no sympathy for the "good gays" whining about this. "Good bi"? Just be straight, bro. Just simply stop chasing man ass. Cease. Desist. Done.

 

[Bloo]

Tbh, I feel kinda bad intersex people / people with DSDs are lumped in with this other half of the acronym. They're never really actually advocated for and are mostly just a rhetorical tool for validating gender identity, instead of actually helping people with a physical condition understand themselves. Asexuality, too, could potentially be a real condition to be researched and understood if not for the way it is framed as an inherent sexual orientation to be validated and never questioned.

I’ve often thought about that myself. Intersex people are often lumped in with this shit when it’s a completely different thing. They have co-opted the “assigned male/female“ at birth terminology for themselves when it’s such a vastly different situation.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

What I don't get, is how troons convinced so many people, when the scenario they ask general public about, not only fails to sound scary in regards to one's sex, it's also hardly imaginable in reality, unlike having to live with some deformity, disability or a common mental problem like depression.
That one along the lines:

''What if you woke up and had to live every day in a wrong-sexed body, that is completely alien to you and clearly not yours?''

Well, in this case, my first question would be, how this interesting, but highly unlikely sci-fi scenario even happened in first place? Then:
Is the body whole and healthy? Did I suffer some kind of brain trauma or dementia?
Where did my old body end up?
Do my family and friends recognize me, do I know them?
Do I know this room and my things?
Is this a WANTED man?
Where do I work?
Is it at least a good looking man and not some bloated alcoholic?
The fact that it's male now would be somehow of least importance in this case.

 

[The Lawgiver]

What I don't get, is how troons convinced so many people, when the scenario they ask general public about, not only fails to sound scary in regards to one's sex, it's also hardly imaginable in reality, unlike having to live with some deformity, disability or a common mental problem like depression.
That one along the lines:

''What if you woke up and had to live every day in a wrong-sexed body, that is completely alien to you and clearly not yours?''

Well, in this case, my first question would be, how this interesting, but highly unlikely sci-fi scenario even happened in first place? Then:
Is the body whole and healthy? Did I suffer some kind of brain trauma or dementia?
Where did my old body end up?
Do my family and friends recognize me, do I know them?
Do I know this room and my things?
Is this a WANTED man?
Where do I work?
Is it at least a good looking man and not some bloated alcoholic?
The fact that it's male now would be somehow of least importance in this case.

Internet troons, much like social media "activists" really do manage to neglect the fact not everyone thinks about gender shit and politics shit 24/7 and specifically in that way. When faced with a hypothetical scenario there's a lot of creativity and indvidual reactions depending on who it is you're talking to. Like the concept itself has also been explored countless times before, like the famous short story where the guy wakes up and he's a hideous bug creature and just has to live like that despite still being himself as a really well known example.

I’ve often thought about that myself. Intersex people are often lumped in with this shit when it’s a completely different thing. They have co-opted the “assigned male/female“ at birth terminology for themselves when it’s such a vastly different situation.

It's like how the "spoons" shit with tumblr people and now "neurodivergent autistic influencers" stems from someone that suffered from Lupus' analogy of explaining their pain and how much they could get done in a day before collapsing from exhaustion. Now it's watered down to like EXTREMELY PETTY shit when you hear the current people that use it do it like "oh I brushed my teeth today oh i saw a dog that really drained me out no more spoons sorry can't do anything! i'm neurodivergent!" It's hell.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Like the concept itself has also been explored countless times before, like the famous short story where the guy wakes up and he's a hideous bug creature and just has to live like that despite still being himself as a really well known example.

Yes I know this one, where I live, Metamorphosis is a compulsory read book. The bug's main concern was, that he can't go to work and support his parents like that. I was frustrated by that book back then, because I think the bug should've at least tried some simple life of roaming the rooftops of Prague, try to fly, possibly find a similarly unfortunate gf and then die, because bugs just don't happen to live long. At least try new possibilites, and see the world from a different perspective, you know. But if it's an allegory metaphor (?) to depression or burnout, it's hard, I understand.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

What I don't get, is how troons convinced so many people, when the scenario they ask general public about, not only fails to sound scary in regards to one's sex, it's also hardly imaginable in reality, unlike having to live with some deformity, disability or a common mental problem like depression.
That one along the lines:

''What if you woke up and had to live every day in a wrong-sexed body, that is completely alien to you and clearly not yours?''

Well, in this case, my first question would be, how this interesting, but highly unlikely sci-fi scenario even happened in first place? Then:
Is the body whole and healthy? Did I suffer some kind of brain trauma or dementia?
Where did my old body end up?
Do my family and friends recognize me, do I know them?
Do I know this room and my things?
Is this a WANTED man?
Where do I work?
Is it at least a good looking man and not some bloated alcoholic?
The fact that it's male now would be somehow of least importance in this case.

Yeah I don't know why that thought experiment "works" on anyone. Pretty much everyone has some curiosity about what it's like to be the opposite sex. Assuming this swap was somehow possible (it's not, so no serious person wastes time thinking about it too much) most people would simply try to adapt and experiment with all the new body parts and social roles and whatever they now had at their disposal. Just like how if you wake up after a construction accident missing a hand, you start looking into prosthetics and calling your death and dismemberment insurance and try to piece together a way to stay afloat now that you can't do your old job. You don't simply threaten to kill yourself until someone fashions you a new hand out of your buttcheek flesh.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Tbh, as for the sci-fi & fantasy, at this point I've lost interest in the most of it. Because why read utopic and unrealistic scenarios that would require an extreme change in humans' genome and thus way of thinking?
Unlike any made up fantasy religion, the troon cult is right here, it's very real and people YOU know, get sucked into it, they roam the world with their sloppily stitched up bodies and necrotic wounds, bragging about it right now. While the cult's visuals are utterly repulsive and their rhetorics and argumentation suck ass - and what's interesting, the dumbest people of working class seem to be mostly safe, who I know, are fairly smart people who managed at least to get into an university, but happen to be extremely irrational in other regards. If it was a thing of watermill wojaks, I wouldn't be here in first place.

They don't even have funny hats.

 

[Jhonson the Two]

Tbh, as for the sci-fi & fantasy, at this point I've lost interest in the most of it. Because why read utopic and unrealistic scenarios that would require an extreme change in humans' genome and thus way of thinking?
Unlike any made up fantasy religion, the troon cult is right here, it's very real and people YOU know, get sucked into it, they roam the world with their sloppily stitched up bodies and necrotic wounds, bragging about it right now. While the cult's visuals are utterly repulsive and their rhetorics and argumentation suck ass - and what's interesting, the dumbest people of working class seem to be mostly safe, who I know, are fairly smart people who managed at least to get into an university, but happen to be extremely irrational in other regards. If it was a thing of watermill wojaks, I wouldn't be here in first place.

They don't even have funny hats.

You know you are in the wrong reality when even our real life dystopia is lame

 

[Rogue AI]

A troon committed suicide by cop and the police can't find the next of kin. His name was Miguel Tapia and he was 52. They think he was probably illegal or homeless. They're asking for more information on him but all the pictures of him are censored.
Denver Police are still searching for the next of kin of a trans woman shot and killed by officers earlier this month
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Honestly wondering how they know he was a troon. He just looks like a guy in a pink shirt. Maybe he had a full face of makeup underneath the blur?