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Personally I just want basic necessities and human rights and for people to leave me the fuck alone
What do women want? (for the future of humanity)
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Fester Chavez
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The question is whether that's sustainable.
When I'm not drowning in nihilism, I have no choice but to reject the model of your ideals you put forth if it's unsustainable.
Maybe the first bit could be sustainable if we ever manage to get the leeches off our back, but I don't very well know how to go about doing that. I've heard the suggestion that most regulation nowadays is made to uphold artificial monopolies that weaken small businesses. So getting rid of those might make familial growth easier.
Was this how the US Gov dissolved the monopolies of the past? Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, and the others?
Or were they removed via good and useful regulation? I suspect regulation probably isn't inherently good or bad, but I'm willing to be swayed here.
We would also need to rid ourselves of AIPAC and their stooges.
And then maybe everything else would fall into place. If people could comfortably afford to have large families, I hope that could mean people would have large families without needing a strong external impetus to do so.
Concerning human rights and being left alone, the death of a culture or civilization is going to be incredibly messy. Rights and privacy will become very low priority. And this death is inevitable if we don't fix our depopulation issue.
Slipping slightly into doomer-mode though, how could we ever get rid of these leeches? And if we can't, then I think hard-tradition may be the only way to survive with what trickle of resources we can hold onto.
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- Not being weak
- Willing to protect us
- Take accountability for your actions this includes getting someone pregnant, your kids, and your ability to get laid
- Not abandoning us in time of need do i even need to mention the horrendous research what happens when women are dying
- Stop making decisions with your dick and then blaming us when shit goes sideways
- Theory of mind aquire it ,
- Stop claiming women can't be happy without men and babies while you claim you are happy without women
- Apply the same standards to men and women
- Stop watching porn and using porn as a reference how women behave
- Leaves us the fuck alone especially when it comes to reproductive rights especially when you refuse to " punish " men for those unwanted pregnacies
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1-5, 7 and 9 are go-back solutions, I think. Although, Im not sure of the data regarding point 4. Im pretty familiar with how Dr Seuss treated his wife, and that was pre-1960.
Im not familiar enough with 6 as an issue, so examples could be useful for that.
8 is sort of inconsistent with the rest. The sexes are different so standards should be different to match. For example, men and women are not expected to be strong in the same way, right?
10 I dont know about. Most modern issues of sexual morality stem from contraception. Contraception de-values sex. It also sets the precedent that people dont deserve the potential consequences of sex, men or women. This is part of the reason point 3 is a problem.
If there's a way to repair these things without ridding us of contraception, Id be interested to hear it.
Maybe there's a way to elevate the value of sex and reproduction without outlawing contraception? Outlawing porn would help alot. Also women should dress more modestly.
Still theres the issue that women make too much money and dont want to date down.
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women already dress modestly, do I need to remind you the early 200s visible thong thrend, tits and cleavage everywhere , your whole waist visible and miniskirts that are inch bellow your minge line. Last time when I saw a video of teenage girls there was no visible cleavage, no miniscirts or thongues . Unless you want back to victorian ages that will be hard due to most cities are fucking 10 degrees hotter due to cement everywhere.
Going back which year? because you faggots have very romantisized view of the 1950s . Going back when domestic abuse and marital rape was alowed or marriage before sex or what ever you feel like it. There were times in history of sacred prostitution and people just caring the woman in question has functional vagina and can bear children.
Also what prevents you in the modern day and age to take accountabiluty for your kids?
Here are some stats ,
The study confirmed earlier research of a divorce or separation rate among cancer patients of 11.6 percent, similar to the general population, but found the rate jumped to 20.8 percent when the woman was sick versus 2.9 percent when the man was ill.
"Female gender was the strongest predictor of separation or divorce in each of the patient groups we studied," said Marc Chamberlain, director of the neuro-oncology program at the Seattle Cancer Care Alliance (SCCA).
side note there several studies on this it goes from double to 6 times the rate
stats for "acountability of men" what i call them
Statistics About Child Custody
Here are some interesting facts about child custody, mostly from the 2018 U.S. Census, that might have some applicability to your personal child custody situation:In more than half of child custody cases, both parents agree that the mother should be the custodial parent.
U.S. Census Bureau statistics from 2018 showed that, in just over half of child-custody battles, parents mutually agreed that the mother should be awarded primary custody of the child(ren). Approximately one-third of these decisions were made voluntarily, without the need for mediation or through the court process. The remaining cases either required mediation, were reached through a state-sponsored custody evaluation, or were resolved in the courtroom.In nearly 80% of cases, custodial parents in the United States were mothers.
U.S. Census Bureau statistics showed that, in 2018, four out of five custodial parents in the United States were mothers. This was a decline from 2014 when five out of every six custodial parents were mothers. A conclusion that can be drawn from this is that fathers are gaining custody more often than compared to past years.Parents settle greater than 90% of custody cases outside of court.
In the vast majority of cases, the parents resolved their custody cases without a family court intervention or a child custody lawyer. A small number of cases required a mediator, but only 4% required a trial.The median amount that custodial parents were supposed to receive was $4,356 per year, but the median received was $1,800.
cost of children
Housing, food and childcare make up the largest percentage of children’s expenses. As children grow, you can expect to pay for things including hobbies, sports teams. When adjusting USDA estimates for inflation, parents can expect to pay between $16,227 and $18,262 a year raising a child born in 2023.
Certainly men’s rights groups have repeatedly made that claim. It seems obvious enough, given that more than 90 percent of the children of divorced and single parents live with their mothers.
But there is more to that statistic than meets the eye. Most divorcing or single fathers (roughly 90 percent) never ask for custody. In contested divorce and parentage custody cases, however, the father wins 60 percent of the time.
there are stats floating around about if you are agressive or your ex alleges abuse your chance climbing , even in cases when abuse is proven courts in various countries are still trying to maintain parental bond between father and child,
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Women crying for views and attention YOU CAN'T BE HAPPY WITHOUT A MEN. ever
Meanwhile statistics
. The study found that unmarried, childless women were the happiest population of all.
“A committed relationship or marriage can translate to financial support and less loneliness, but it also raises questions.”
Why So Many Single Women Without Children Are Happy
Lonely men: The sounds of silence
Standards for physical strength nigger is cheating thats like we are asking you to push out kids. Cry me a river . Go bitch at mother nature for that.
I am talking about societal standards.
So much for the logical sex.
And women have nothing to do with ideological and political prosecutions. You faggot everyone were for the guy with the exception of few loonies
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It's one study with questionable methods. There are also studies showing a correlation between singleness and clinical depression, and more showing the most single, childless generation in American history is also the most miserable.
But let's just pretend there's no controversy there. This gets right back at the original question - what do you want for the future of humanity? If the answer is, "I want to have the single happiest generation of women in human history before the lights go out on humanity, forever," then just say that. Just say you don't want humanity to have a future, because the sacrifices of womanhood required for future men and women to exist are just too much.
And if you're so happy without men, why would you care if men are weak, won't protect you, and watch the porn you appear in? Who cares? We're out of sight, out mind, jacking off to the butthole pics you posted on OnlyFans in our studio apartments.
Equality with exceptions isn't equality. If you aren't strong enough to pull an unconscious tanker out of a burning tank, you shouldn't be allowed on a tank crew.
Physical standards are inseparable from social standards. The reason women demanded access to the combat forces was that combat medals give prestige, and combat troops generally have a status in the military that POGs don't.
And why do women want to be in the Army, anyway? Because spending a few years in a massive, hierarchical organization that requires self-sacrifice, answering to authority, showing up on time, etc is an obvious booster for everything else you will do in the rest of your life. You cannot be the social equals of men if you can't join the Army, and you can't be the equals of men in the Army if you can't fight. Fighting is intrinsically physical, thus we have to lower standards and pretend you can fight.
This is one of countless examples where you do not know what you want.
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You asked i am here to remind you why current year women would rather fuck anything but you
Ask those who want to join to die for zog .
Also sure buddy then push kids out of your asshole like we do and then you can dab on us for the lack of upper body strength. Or make peace with the chidlren of men future but with cat ladies
On a personal note i gotta say if you are so sure about woman CANT BE HAPPY without men and kids why men lose their shit in the comments when a woman posts i am happy and single and childless?
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I don't give a fuck if it's sustainable since humans are the worst animal by far.
That said, there are more humans on the planet right now than there ever have been. Homo sapiens is (unfortunately)not going extinct any time soon.
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What about bed bugs?
Ill probably respond more seriously in an hour or so, but look up how those motherfuckers go about coitus.
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I'm sure we'll see some mentally stable takes on gender relations in this thre-
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Bed bugs suck but at least they don't do shit like cause genocide or mass extinctions.
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I have no more "dabbed on" women for your lack of physical strength precludes you from certain roles than I am "dabbing on" the blind by saying, "If you can't see, you shouldn't be a bus driver." But your woman brain reads it as an insult, rendering you incapable of meaningful discussion past that point.
There are too many contradictions in your own words and thoughts, particularly your visceral desire for a man to be a strong protector-provider and your feminist desire for men to not have any social differences, to coherently express any ideas about what you want for the future, so you're reduced to predictable, catty snark about "hehe no sex peepee smol."
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I dont necessarilly contest any of what you say in this post.
I am theorizing that things were better before the sexual revolution. Ive found some info that suggests it might have been: https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
I want to know what other potential solutions there might be for the current crisis, particularly from a woman's perspective, since I think Ive already got a good idea on what the men, whove considered this issue, want.
Sometimes I get the feeling certain types of women I encounter have just laid all their chips on a Y: The Last Man scenario.
Edit: You also havent really addressed my and several other people's point about women's current childless happiness being unsustainable.
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I really think the aspect of single mothers is underappreciated. Along with the perverse social safety net incentives that reduce the need or even utility of having the father in the picture. It's talked about sure, by the likes of Thomas Sowell and more modern people that are particularly aiming at the family court systems and the like. But I still think it's incredibly underappreciated. We have decades of systemic designs that nudges fathers out of women and children's lives. Which in turn inadvertently show what women want at a basic level: a provider and an enabler.
They want resources but they also want to be able to indulge themselves without real consequences. Unfortunately we seem to be left with two choices at the surface, immediate suffering due to lack of handouts by the state or a childhoods/lifetimes worth of suffering due to broken homes and families. How on earth do we deal with the reality of what we want versus what we need? Particularly when age begets wisdom and all these critical moments are happening in the naïveté of relative youth.
They want resources but they also want to be able to indulge themselves without real consequences. Unfortunately we seem to be left with two choices at the surface, immediate suffering due to lack of handouts by the state or a childhoods/lifetimes worth of suffering due to broken homes and families. How on earth do we deal with the reality of what we want versus what we need? Particularly when age begets wisdom and all these critical moments are happening in the naïveté of relative youth.
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There are no contradictions of asking equal societal standards for all like dunno dont be piece of shit, dont be promiscuous and don't be a leech is universal and can be universally applied. I have no fucking idea asking for equality is contradictory to expecting man to protect you while you undergo life threating and very disabling experience aka pregnancy. Its pretty equal exchange i risk life and health you protect and provide . If you don't want that then what is the point of you. If its dick nigga there fuck machines and dildoes that do your job 10 times better. And they are std free.
The only thing surprising is why USA has 3 million births a year and not 0 after listening to your thoughts on this.
Citation needed
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To an extent, men lead and women follow. If you obsess over what women like and you're trying to imitate it, you end up chasing your own tail.
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I know mileage varies but I personally feel this to be an unfair assessment of many women. A provider? Yes absolutely, that’s what men are for: you provide the protection and resources we need to breed and raise the next generation. That applies for pretty much every mammal and higher animal out there. It’s why bower birds build fancy nests and why penguins gift pebbles.
But: I’m not seeing indulgence without consequences in my circle of people. Again, mileage may vary, but the women I know my age are shouldering jobs, childcare, and now often elder care as well. They aren’t being frivolous with money, they’re managing the family budget. They aren’t going out drinking, they’re doing the laundry, working out which one of them is taking the kids to hockey this Wednesday night and which will be taking an aged parent to a medical appointment that overlaps, and how to manage dinner as well. The often boring but very necessary things that need to be done to make life move forward.
The idea that women as a class are simply indulging themselves without repercussion is pretty alien and grimly amusing when you’re a busy, very average working mother of several. Everyone we know is like this. This is the bulk of reality.
If you find you’re surrounded by women who are hedonistic idiots, find better people to be around. If you have this opinion from being told ‘women are like this’ perhaps consider who is telling you and why. If it’s an opinion you have gleaned from the internet again, who tells you this and why?
What do women want? Is an interesting question. From who or what?
Personally I’d like society to return to some level of sanity. If you’re asking what women want in a partner the boring truth is a partner - a man who does his fair share of the boring domestic stuff, who takes care of the kids and who treats you as a human equal. but we are t getting anywhere from the starting point the current gender wars